Opinion Changes V Dees

[Jiggyman]

Also Emac should be back in seniors. McGovern can ruck instead of Brown, or just let Lycett go for the full game.

The way I see it we play either Barrass or Emac, and Barrass is holding his spot.

If we bring in EMac, we move Gov forward with stints as a ruckman. We lose our intercept ability down back and increase his risk of injury (big part of why we're reluctant to try). We could include Giles to backup ruck with Gov staying forward, but then you're bringing 2 talls (Giles & EMac) for 1 (Brown). Lycett carrying the duties solo against Gawn may leave us vulnerable.

Should see a few changes tomorrow, will be interesting.

 

[avishka5]

The way I see it we play either Barrass or Emac, and Barrass is holding his spot.

If we bring in EMac, we move Gov forward with stints as a ruckman. We lose our intercept ability down back and increase his risk of injury (big part of why we're reluctant to try). We could include Giles to backup ruck with Gov staying forward, but then you're bringing 2 talls (Giles & EMac) for 1 (Brown). Lycett carrying the duties solo against Gawn may leave us vulnerable.

Should see a few changes tomorrow, will be interesting.

schofield has been rubbish in recent times. The guy takes the number one forward from the opposition as well. Going into the season most were predicting schoey to provide some run out of defence. yet he averages he averages 9.8 disposals, 1.9 rebound 50's and is extremely poor overhead. This poor form considering his rebound from defence was one his best attributes few years ago. His numbers have also declined this year, which is dissapointing as he has had better support this year as well. Emac has had a solid few weeks at WAFL and at his best provides provides run from defence as well as locking down his opponents.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I don't think Schofield has been that bad, and I like having him playing alongside two other talls as opposed to having the trio of Gov-Barrass-Mackenzie together.

 

[frenchconnection]

yeah the clubs opinion on Hotline seems to be the very opposite of his nickname..

I think it's mainly due to the amount of time Hotline has had out of the game, and probably think it's too soon to bring him into the AFL side due to (in the coaching panels opinion) that he's not quite ready?

 

[Jiggyman]

schofield has been rubbish in recent times. The guy takes the number one forward from the opposition as well. Going into the season most were predicting schoey to provide some run out of defence. yet he averages he averages 9.8 disposals, 1.9 rebound 50's and is extremely poor overhead. This poor form considering his rebound from defence was one his best attributes few years ago. His numbers have also declined this year, which is dissapointing as he has had better support this year as well. Emac has had a solid few weeks at WAFL and at his best provides provides run from defence as well as locking down his opponents.

My concern is that our defense looked unsettled with EMac back there, and it's worked better over the last month or so without him. Gov ain't moving and Barrass is a real natural, and we can't play 4 KPDs. EMac is building some form in the WAFL, but I doubt right now we see him offering what Schofield does in his ability to play the same flexible role as a part of our system, covering ground and shutting down talls and mediums using his pace and agility, where Gov and Barrass can either get under a high ball or drift in on a 1on1.

Sure, it's easy to look average as a fullback in an away side that's being pantsed, but Schofield's still a link in our system, which EMac hasn't mastered yet having missed last year. Schofield was also a beast last year, and I wouldn't count out a return to top form if our side can get going.

I still think EMac will eventually force his way back somehow... I hope so. Could have the luxury of trying a few things this weekend, but if Melbourne jump out with a few goals anything can happen :S

 

[amazingjoshy]

The way I see it we play either Barrass or Emac, and Barrass is holding his spot.

If we bring in EMac, we move Gov forward with stints as a ruckman. We lose our intercept ability down back and increase his risk of injury (big part of why we're reluctant to try). We could include Giles to backup ruck with Gov staying forward, but then you're bringing 2 talls (Giles & EMac) for 1 (Brown). Lycett carrying the duties solo against Gawn may leave us vulnerable.

Should see a few changes tomorrow, will be interesting.

Seen this point posted a few times, can't see how it is true (and yes I have played football before someone asks)

Rucking around the ground is no different to marking contests really in terms of body contact. And as a backup ruck he'd only really be taking 2/3 centre bounces a qtr max, how is it an increased risk of injury compared to the way he launches into packs now? Plus, he gets some sort of injury nearly every game in his position now, it's hardly like he's shielded from body contact playing KPD. Brown is the most injury prone player on our list (maybe X), and he's managed fine (touch wood) the last few games.

I reckon its worth a go, he'd be a weapon roaming around the ground and up forward. I dont get Simmo's reluctance, the team isn't working the way it is now, why not change something up? Gov's stated himself its his favourite role, most players play even better when they're in their preferred position. And if it doesnt work, just send him back, its not like he's going to lose all form and then thats it, he can't play defence anymore.

 

[Goldfish]

The way I see it we play either Barrass or Emac, and Barrass is holding his spot.

If we bring in EMac, we move Gov forward with stints as a ruckman. We lose our intercept ability down back and increase his risk of injury (big part of why we're reluctant to try). We could include Giles to backup ruck with Gov staying forward, but then you're bringing 2 talls (Giles & EMac) for 1 (Brown). Lycett carrying the duties solo against Gawn may leave us vulnerable.

Should see a few changes tomorrow, will be interesting.

People forget how good eMac was at this back in 2014. If we played eMac and Barrass down back we'd still have decent intercept marking ability imo. Not sure we want to risk Gov as a part-time ruckman though.

 

[mick06]

MC just dont have the answers this year. We cant find the right mix and it shows on their faces demeanour and voices. Simmos at a loss and i reckon its doing his head in. We go for grunt and hardness and we are slow, one dimensional but can win it around the packs. We put in a bit of class and we are soft fragile and we dont win enough ball. Totally agree that pridda hutch redden and mcg cannot be in the same team. One of jetta or duggan need to replace one of these guys for a bit of class and sheed to come in for the other. Id be happy for emac to replace schoey. Schoey is still playing tall but his timing is out and he is missing all contests by a step or 2. He isnt offering enough going forward so emac to replace him. A little worrying with emac and barras slowing the play down but if wellingham hurn and a mid can get around them it shouldnt be an issue

 

[DickDunn]

schofield has been rubbish in recent times. The guy takes the number one forward from the opposition as well. Going into the season most were predicting schoey to provide some run out of defence. yet he averages he averages 9.8 disposals, 1.9 rebound 50's and is extremely poor overhead. This poor form considering his rebound from defence was one his best attributes few years ago. His numbers have also declined this year, which is dissapointing as he has had better support this year as well. Emac has had a solid few weeks at WAFL and at his best provides provides run from defence as well as locking down his opponents.

Agreed, Schoey's looked way off the pace this year. Ezy is much better one on one and should be backed in to produce his best rebounding work again.

 

[SloppyJoe]

Agree Redden, Priddis and Hutchings all in is not good. Similarly, I think all of Gaff, Masten and Jetta in the side doesn't work.

Sheed must come in if fit.

I don't see Hotline coming in off the back of wafl form alone. There are too many ahead of him with more runs on the board. There would need to be some injuries or really poor midfield results. And if Sheed comes back and has the impact on our midfield dynamic that we all are hoping for, then you can discount the latter.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

schofield has been rubbish in recent times. The guy takes the number one forward from the opposition as well. Going into the season most were predicting schoey to provide some run out of defence. yet he averages he averages 9.8 disposals, 1.9 rebound 50's and is extremely poor overhead. This poor form considering his rebound from defence was one his best attributes few years ago. His numbers have also declined this year, which is dissapointing as he has had better support this year as well. Emac has had a solid few weeks at WAFL and at his best provides provides run from defence as well as locking down his opponents.

It's a bit harsh to point out that he's taking the number 1 forward and then say he's not providing enough run out of defence and cite his possession and rebounding 50 numbers.

In that role the main stat he should be judged on his how many goals he concedes. I don't know what that number is but I don't think any key forward has kicked a bag on him.

 

[china eagle]

I don't think Schofield has been that bad, and I like having him playing alongside two other talls as opposed to having the trio of Gov-Barrass-Mackenzie together.

I agree.. Schoey has been good, he defends well (which is his primary role), he's a senior player and clearly in the best 22. I dont reckon there is anyway they will drop him. emac looked a class above in the WAFL last week, he will be in consideration but Id be shocked if it was at the expense of Schofield..

 

[avishka5]

It's a bit harsh to point out that he's taking the number 1 forward and then say he's not providing enough run out of defence and cite his possession and rebounding 50 numbers.

In that role the main stat he should be judged on his how many goals he concedes. I don't know what that number is but I don't think any key forward has kicked a bag on him.

Theres no real room for a true lockdown defender anymore and most of them have evolved their game. In 2014 emac took his game from a purelockdown role to one that intercepts and provides run from defence. Daniel Talia for a long time was considered an old school kpd but now is providing rebound from defence. Grundy is also the same. I can understand his lack of run in defence if he was our only good kpd (bit like last year) but with gov, barrass and even the likes of shep,bunga and weller in defence, he should really be doing much more offensivly. Im dissapointed how he is doing worse than last year, even though he has better support around him now.

 

[Underdog]

For me;
OUT: McGinnity, Brown
IN: Jetta, Giles

I think we need to revert to two ruckman and allow Lycett to spend more time forward. Was also not impressed with Lycett's game last week, he lacked presence and allowed Phillips too much space.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Having a crack at the 22 to be named this arvo.

Out: Hutchings, McGinnity, Brown
In: Sheed, Nelson, Giles

B: Barrass, Schofield, Butler
HB: Hurn, McGovern, Sheppard
C: Gaff, Priddis, Masten
HF: Cripps, Darling, Hill
F: LeCras, Kennedy, Giles
R: Lycett, Shuey, Yeo
I: Wellingham, Sheed, Nelson, Redden
E: MacKenzie, Hutchings, McGinnity (held over)

Changed my mind (actually Keys changed it for me on the podcast) - never mind Sheed's quiet game last weekend, it's time to get him in. Hutchings or Redden to miss out, flip a coin really.

Nelson for Paddy, Giles for Brown straight swaps.

 

[eagles rule]

How many disposals did Sheed get on the weekend ? Did he play on ball ?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

How many disposals did Sheed get on the weekend ? Did he play on ball ?

About 10. Copped a hard tag from Munns, seemed to sit forward for a while to try to break it?

To steal Keyser's argument, he won't get tagged at AFL level so that's not really a concern. The question is whether he's built up enough match fitness. If he has then based on last year's form and our current midfield issues then he should be an automatic inclusion.

Keys explains it much better on the podcast, you should listen in when it comes out [/gratuitous plug]

 

[Underdog]

About 10. Copped a hard tag from Munns, seemed to sit forward for a while to try to break it?

Munns has negated practically every gun he's lined up on this season. There's no real correlation between the last game and AFL. The fact he had 10 touches, doesn't mean he's only going to manage 5 in the AFL. Given the rubbish served up by Redden, Pat and Hutch, we're not going to lose out.

Having said that, I'm not sure we actually will bring him in.

 

[Avalor]

Looking forward to team selection today more than normal ... I feel some excitement brewing, and from here on in, it is the run to finals. Come on 5pm!

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Munns has negated practically every gun he's lined up on this season. There's no real correlation between the last game and AFL. The fact he had 10 touches, doesn't mean he's only going to manage 5 in the AFL. Given the rubbish served up by Redden, Pat and Hutch, we're not going to lose out.

Having said that, I'm not sure we actually will bring him in.

Yeah agree with all of that. I'm not too fussed if we give him another week at East Perth either, and give both Redden and Hutchings another chance to turn in a decent performance and avoid the axe.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

I dont think there will be many changes at all. I'd be surprised if there were any...

 

[Chris_6678]

As long as foss gets a gig then its all good.

I think Giles will come in as Lycett looked pretty cooked last week. Brown looks ways to lost out there and with Giles he should be able to compete some what and is better in the forward line than Brown.

I know Sheed didn't set the world on fire but a game v Melbourne at home is a lot better than v the Pies at G.

In: Sheed, Giles, Redden
Out: Hutchings, Brown. Mcginnity

 

[Biggie]

Looking forward to team selection today more than normal ... I feel some excitement brewing, and from here on in, it is the run to finals. Come on 5pm*!

*4.25pm WST

 

[Dark Sharks]

I'll be fuming if Redden is still in this team.

Got a feeling it's going to be Hutchings and/or McGinnity who they drop though.

Choose your poison really, I'd like all three out preferably.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If Giles does come in for Brown it'll be the fifth ruck combo we've used this season.

Naita/Lycett
Naita/FMac
Giles/FMac
Lycett/Brown
Lycett/Giles