Preview Changes v Essendon

[Gordon Frohman]

In fact, tell me a sport where speed doesn't relate to your legs...

Motorsports. Table tennis. CS:GO.

Also '= is' is a tautology.

I'll spell it out for you.

Taberner = is shit. People are starting to realise.

 

[beetz]

Nope that weekly award goes to Mr Undroppable.

That doesn't narrow it down.

 

[StingBitten]

And uni is piss easy to get into these days.

Amen to that brother.

 

[StingBitten]

That doesn't narrow it down.

That's the point.

 

[Taylor]

Langdon needs a few years of pounding laps to cover a massive amount of territory each game.

I like how he finds space now, I would like him to do it for a whole game but that is a matter of time and effort from him.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I don't think anyone here is calling Langdon a superstar by any means! at the end of the day he was pick 54 in the draft and the fact that he is even getting a game is a bonus. He continually racks up 25 possessions a game at WAFL level which is bloody good considering where he was drafted.
For us as a club to be successful we need to pick up players who add depth to the club, as in the past the difference between our best 5-6 to the rest of the team the gap has been massive. It is so so important to build depth and by drafting players later in the draft who are showing signs I think is great. No Langdon is never going to be a star but hey he kicked two goals last week and got just as many possessions and Weller did.
As for Taberner again no one expects him to be a superstar but the improvement is promising and in a season where there hasn't been a massive amount to cheer about it is great to see.

Well you say he's future depth, sure, but then everyone cries foul when he's turfed. I understand people want him ahead of Suban et al, and I would certainly keep patronising Langdon ahead of those 26-year olds who are pointless to the future of the team, but I do not see Langdon as having any outstanding skillset.

In my opinion, once you're drafted, your draft range is irrelevant. Otherwise you end up making excuses. Serious, cut-throat, necessary changes aren't made, or perhaps rash ones happen and happen way too earlier.

Fundamentally the issue is not Langdon's, it's the fault of relatively much higher, more promising picks like Crozier and Sheridan. It is obvious those guys will not push much higher as footballers. They are the future 104 gamers, the future depth, whereas they should now be coming into their own and at least having a heavy effect. Instead they sit as the 13th picked and in the 10-17th best on field every game, which shows how average they are and how middling their progress has been.

 

[meima]

Well you say he's future depth, sure, but then everyone cries foul when he's turfed. I understand people want him ahead of Suban et al, and I would certainly keep patronising Langdon ahead of those 26-year olds who are pointless to the future of the team, but I do not see Langdon as having any outstanding skillset.

In my opinion, once you're drafted, your draft range is irrelevant. Otherwise you end up making excuses. Serious, cut-throat, necessary changes aren't made, or perhaps rash ones happen and happen way too earlier.

Fundamentally the issue is not Langdon's, it's the fault of relatively much higher, more promising picks like Crozier and Sheridan. It is obvious those guys will not push much higher as footballers. They are the future 104 gamers, the future depth, whereas they should now be coming into their own and at least having a heavy effect. Instead they sit as the 13th picked and in the 10-17th best on field every game, which shows how average they are and how middling their progress has been.

Enough SA , write some positive.

 

[Taylor]

There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism.

Instead they sit as the 13th picked and in the 10-17th best on field every game, which shows how average they are and how middling their progress has been.

You need to show that they are actually picked at those locations to be able to use it as evidence of your point.

 

[salim malik]

I'll spell it out for you.

Taberner = is shit. People are starting to realise. He's played 30 games and was struggling even last year when the side was winning. He's frigid, and timid, and has minimal confidence. He is flailing.

Langdon = is bland. So what if he has great 'leg speed' (why can't you call it, simply, speed? Where else is he going to use speed in Aussie Rules? In fact, tell me a sport where speed doesn't relate to your legs...)? He can still be bland. His size is average. His skills aren't solid enough and refined enough to play as a killer winger, he isn't tough enough or an accumulator to be a rover, and he looks forever doomed to sit in the Sheridan/Crozier pointlessness of the perennial half-forward flanker. I look at the guy and don't see the natural smarts of Blakely, who follows up every handball with a run or shepherd, and has great natural running instincts. I don't see the hardness of Brady Grey and the intent of him. And Weller is simply way more refined, runs his guts out, gives a shit, never gives up, but has a solid tackling game as well as his obvious offensive skills (nice kick, likes a goal).

Zero football knowledge. Well Chris Bond has no idea how to manage a list. His barometers for keeping or cutting someone is all over the place... you look at Suban, Clanger, DeBoer, and see players who are over the hill in a rebuilding team who were never even that good to begin with. You fail to acknowledge the chances of Taberner becoming a genuine, 10 year full forward as small, and then you tick the recruitment of the kind of mediocrity and stupidity we've had for six years. I'm just saying, you blindly defend Fremantle and simply don't like me because I reckon the guys you like are ******* shit. You both have the same skewed opinion on bad players, and both accepting dead-end mediocrity.

And uni is piss easy to get into these days.

Is it true you studied for years to be an idiot and failed the course ?

 

[Taylor]

Is it true you studied for years to be an idiot and failed the course ?

We can be better than this sort of exchange.

 

[clivenator26]

Mods - just to prove the pooh stirring nature of the WCE poster, he posts this on the bay.

 

[salim malik]

We can be better than this sort of exchange.

If you give it learn to take it etc,etc.

 

[Righteo]

Mods - just to prove the pooh stirring nature of the WCE poster, he posts this on the bay.

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Yeah he's a blatant troll but thankfully been thread banned now.

 

[Taylor]

If you give it learn to take it etc,etc.

Don't jump down from your horse into the mud to wrestle.

 

[meima]

We can be better than this sort of exchange.

I think you wasting your time sending your messenge across to deaf and blind personal.

 

[PapaJ]

Mods - just to prove the pooh stirring nature of the WCE poster, he posts this on the bay.

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What are we meant to be looking at exactly?

 

[mike91]

I'll spell it out for you.

Taberner = is shit. People are starting to realise. He's played 30 games and was struggling even last year when the side was winning. He's frigid, and timid, and has minimal confidence. He is flailing.

Langdon = is bland. So what if he has great 'leg speed' (why can't you call it, simply, speed? Where else is he going to use speed in Aussie Rules? In fact, tell me a sport where speed doesn't relate to your legs...)? He can still be bland. His size is average. His skills aren't solid enough and refined enough to play as a killer winger, he isn't tough enough or an accumulator to be a rover, and he looks forever doomed to sit in the Sheridan/Crozier pointlessness of the perennial half-forward flanker. I look at the guy and don't see the natural smarts of Blakely, who follows up every handball with a run or shepherd, and has great natural running instincts. I don't see the hardness of Brady Grey and the intent of him. And Weller is simply way more refined, runs his guts out, gives a shit, never gives up, but has a solid tackling game as well as his obvious offensive skills (nice kick, likes a goal).

Zero football knowledge. Well Chris Bond has no idea how to manage a list. His barometers for keeping or cutting someone is all over the place... you look at Suban, Clanger, DeBoer, and see players who are over the hill in a rebuilding team who were never even that good to begin with. You fail to acknowledge the chances of Taberner becoming a genuine, 10 year full forward as small, and then you tick the recruitment of the kind of mediocrity and stupidity we've had for six years. I'm just saying, you blindly defend Fremantle and simply don't like me because I reckon the guys you like are ******* shit. You both have the same skewed opinion on bad players, and both accepting dead-end mediocrity.

And uni is piss easy to get into these days.

You mean to tell me a forward who had played between 10-20 games was struggling and not yet fully developed? Damn son, you smart af! In no way are you a flog

 

[ydraw]

Not sure what you're referring to about choice and the second being irrelevant?We've managed to field 22 for the duration of his prolonged lay off.

I mean our season is over, so the prospect of losing because we are playing a couple of guys who aren't at full match fitness is not really that concerning.

 

[ydraw]

Well you say he's future depth, sure, but then everyone cries foul when he's turfed. I understand people want him ahead of Suban et al, and I would certainly keep patronising Langdon ahead of those 26-year olds who are pointless to the future of the team, but I do not see Langdon as having any outstanding skillset.

He's pretty obviously the quickest player on our list, you don't consider that outstanding?

 

[jedi mind tricks]

We are all creatures of habit

I hope Freo win tomorrow

 

[Kram]

I rate Langdon, don't see why he shouldn't be a solid AFL footballer.

 

[Silent Alarm]

He's pretty obviously the quickest player on our list, you don't consider that outstanding?

When has he put it into application though? Because he has never struck me as outstandingly fast.

Either he's being played in a completely wrong position, which is a large issue needing addressing quickly for a young player, or he quite simply isn't confident enough to have a run. Or he isn't the sort of player who realises he should capitalise on this apparently obvious trait.

Furthermore I still don't see this as a great trait if you're not powering it along at his stage. Hill is fast but has minimal confidence, so when he does take a bounce and run, he ends up having to handball it off because he feels a compulsion to do so. Only in one of the club's greatest hours, the win in Geelong, did he feel the gall to run and actually slot one. And then the less said about Danyle Pearce having speed and how he uses it the better....

 

[Silent Alarm]

You mean to tell me a forward who had played between 10-20 games was struggling and not yet fully developed? Damn son, you smart af! In no way are you a flog

Er what? I have said time and time again, he is not developing at all. The upward trajectory doesn't exist. He is the same player he was at seven games. I have absolutely no issue with a player being young and not killing it, but I want to see a third year player starting to show something a bit more. He's really not getting better and it's not happening at a quick enough pace.

 

[ydraw]

When has he put it into application though? Because he has never struck me as outstandingly fast.

You talk as if he's played 50 games.

Already a number of times this season I've seen him burn off opponents over 10m, he's very quick.

Like you I've never watched any WAFL games, so the first time I have seen him play was this year. I was immediately surprised by how quick he was.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Is it true you studied for years to be an idiot and failed the course ?

Wouldn't that make me, you know, the opposite of an idiot then? Good gag!