Changes v Geelong

[jag]

I find it quite amazing how much of a connection our 2 clubs have had over the years.

IIRC Bruce Lindner was the first or second interstate recruit signed by the club in 1991, he came from Geelong. Then there obviously Malcolm Blight and his relationship between the 2 clubs and taking over from Blight was Gary Ayres. Now we have Brenton Sanderson who played a huge part in developing his football and coaching career at the cattery.

Also, if you believe urban legend, Mark Thompson took his senior players aside after the 2006 round 13 game where we beat Geelong and told them that they need to play like that before they could amount to anything. And this was the key moment that opened a few players eyes. He also dissected the Neil Craig game plan from 2005 and 2006 over the 2006/07 summer and told his players we are going to use this style of play and training and look where it got them.

Now, with Brenton Sanderson bringing a monumental amount of Geelong game plan and intellectual property to the club, that baton is getting passed back.

May the 2 clubs continue to have a healthy and successful working relationship.

Not to forget that we got Ronnie Burns from Geelong in exchange for a young draftee Ben Finnen. Probably not a critical trade either way. However it must have been salary cap issues that forced this trade.
I have a tremendous respect for Geelong, particularly in their ability to draft well without low picks in latter years.

 

[Allefgib]

I find it quite amazing how much of a connection our 2 clubs have had over the years.

IIRC Bruce Lindner was the first or second interstate recruit signed by the club in 1991, he came from Geelong. Then there obviously Malcolm Blight and his relationship between the 2 clubs and taking over from Blight was Gary Ayres. Now we have Brenton Sanderson who played a huge part in developing his football and coaching career at the cattery.

Also, if you believe urban legend, Mark Thompson took his senior players aside after the 2006 round 13 game where we beat Geelong and told them that they need to play like that before they could amount to anything. And this was the key moment that opened a few players eyes. He also dissected the Neil Craig game plan from 2005 and 2006 over the 2006/07 summer and told his players we are going to use this style of play and training and look where it got them.

Now, with Brenton Sanderson bringing a monumental amount of Geelong game plan and intellectual property to the club, that baton is getting passed back.

May the 2 clubs continue to have a healthy and successful working relationship.

Interested in this urban legend Alex. Got any leads on where we might find more info?

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Not to forget that we got Ronnie Burns from Geelong in exchange for a young draftee Ben Finnen. Probably not a critical trade either way. However it must have been salary cap issues that forced this trade.
I have a tremendous respect for Geelong, particularly in their ability to draft well without low picks in latter years.

Tried to forget that.

Na, Ronnie played a few good games for us and I think that gamble was well worth it but it never paid off.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Interested in this urban legend Alex. Got any leads on where we might find more info?

I don't even remember the true source and I'll have a look on the net for it, but I'm sure it wasn't print media. Somewhere deep in my long term memory is telling me I heard it on an interview with Mark Thompson on AA a few years back and he was talking about it.

I'm pretty sure it was either Mark Thompson or Neil Balme talking about it with KG and Cornes on their drive show.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Interested in this urban legend Alex. Got any leads on where we might find more info?

It's a load of shit.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

will be a tall defender in for Otten. If Shaw isnt passed fit to play (and he hasnt been yet) then it would most likely be L Thompson

Lieutenant LT Smash!

Would love to have him back.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

It's a load of shit.

Why Pete?

Because I said it, therefore it couldn't be true, Neil Craig was involved and any said and rational football wouldn't borrow any of his ideas or you didn't hear it, therefore "It's a load of shit"

 

[Slippery Pete]

You're drawing an exceptionally long bow insinuating he copied Adelaide's game plan from 05/06. This has never been documented. He may have paid lip service to SA radio somewhere along the line, but that's all.

Every team takes bit and pieces from other teams, but you would not spend a summer dissecting a team that fell over spectacularly when it mattered two years running, unless it was an exercise in how to avoid disaster.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

You're drawing an exceptionally long bow insinuating he copied Adelaide's game plan from 05/06. This has never been documented. He may have paid lip service to SA radio somewhere along the line, but that's all.

Every team takes bit and pieces from other teams, but you would not spend a summer dissecting a team that fell over spectacularly when it mattered two years running, unless it was an exercise in how to avoid disaster.

Don't forget that during 2006 we were basically unbeatable. I'm never said he emulated our game plan, who would. It failed when it really mattered but from memory he said he looked at the Crows players work ethic, training techniques, discipline and willingness to follow the game plan and he relayed that to his players.

 

[Slippery Pete]

He was pretty impressed with us after that 06 game. I'd say most of that would have worn off by seasons end.

The last third of 2006 was an unmitigated disaster, one nobody in their right mind would wish to emulate.

Anyway, back on topic....

 

[jenny61_99]

It's a load of shit.

I recall it as well.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

He clearly had a much stronger, talented and well drilled side than we did and achieved far greater results because of this.

However, when you wish to implement something, don't you pick and chose the points you want to intergrate?

why would he look at the last third of our season, wouldn't he just visualize and emulate the good points. Kind of silly to implement points that fail.

 

[Elite Crow]

I believe you are half right Alex. I recall after we smashed them they used that as a level they needed to get to and that's why when they beat us the following year here they were so pumped. But no where have I seen that they used our gameplan.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

I believe you are half right Alex. I recall after we smashed them they used that as a level they needed to get to and that's why when they beat us the following year here they were so pumped. But no where have I seen that they used our gameplan.

That's it.

My mistake, It was 6 years go. Lots of water, beer and long days have gone under the bridge between then and now. I knew there was some significant factor behind that era.

 

[A FEW GOOD MEN]

As much as I'm enjoying this, can any infighting between the MOB be held back until late September (in the penthouse................)

 

[ManInTheArena]

I think in 05/06 we set some trends, so yes parts of the AFC were "copied" but that's footy, and that's how you have to keep up.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

As much as I'm enjoying this, can any infighting between the MOB be held back until late September (in the penthouse................)

If I were you, I wouldn't be wanting that to come quicker as you're going to get your comeuppances or suffocation - whatever comes first.

 

[Elite Crow]

As much as I'm enjoying this, can any infighting between the MOB be held back until late September (in the penthouse................)

Are you getting the king size bed? If so I am going to impersonate you

 

[Slippery Pete]

Are you getting the king size bed? If so I am going to impersonate you

You'll need a Bunsen burner, some goggles and a lab coat.

 

[Elite Crow]

You'll need a Bunsen burner, some goggles and a lab coat.

And a bullet proof vest

 

[cmndstab]

Tried to forget that.

Na, Ronnie played a few good games for us and I think that gamble was well worth it but it never paid off.

It didn't really pay off, but it didn't hurt us at all. We gave up absolutely nothing of value and Geelong paid his salary.

The only thing it cost us was a young player playing in his role, I guess. Not that we had many of them around that time.

 

[OldCrowBloke]

It didn't really pay off, but it didn't hurt us at all. We gave up absolutely nothing of value and Geelong paid his salary.

The only thing it cost us was a young player playing in his role, I guess. Not that we had many of them around that time.

Wasn't this meant to be the last piece in the puzzle for our Premiership forward line?
Carey as the big powerful forward we had lacked, and speedy Ronnie to pick up the crumbs?

 

[cmndstab]

It was certainly meant to be an additional piece to the puzzle.

Didn't pay off, but when you give up next to nothing it's worth the risk.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...-saturday-28-july.962727/page-9#post-24992867

My preview for the upcoming match.

 

[macca23]

Do we know which knee Otten had operated? The good one or the bad one? Luke Thompson in a like for like swap for mine. We could probably even go smaller in defence this week - conditions likely to be difficult and it's hard to see Geelong going with more than 2 genuine KPF (Hawkins and Pods/Walker depending on Pods' fitness).

Dwayne alert: Luke Thompson is a Geelong boy so he should enjoy being back in his home town if he plays.

My understanding is that Otten's problem was damaged cartilege in his bad knee - a totally new injury un-related to his previous injury.

Hopefly Shaw's eye comes good, otherwise it looks like Luke Thompson getting another chance. Has ability but can be pretty loose at times.