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Croz is another one of those guys who puts on good pressure and throws himself at the opposition, but so often seems to just bounce right off.
 
Very good point, I think Stephen Hill is somebody who eventually found the perfect balance but he has some pretty handy genes. I think Croz is fine, maybe a couple more kilos wouldn't go astray but I don't think he's in need of too much more muscle.
I call it the Dennis Rodman effect. Basically he grew some muscle but not too much to take away his speed and agility. Stephen hill is a similar story. I remembered hill when he debuted in 2009. He was skinny like a toothpick but he had pace. He bulked up but still kept his pace.
 

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With the teams being announced in 12 hours or so I thought that a quick discussion would be worthwhile.

Most people seem to be on the same page that we should continue to blood young talent and give them an extended opportunity to show their talent before ( what will be a very thorough ) list examination at the end of the season.

Tanner Smith is a very interesting case for my mind where his move forward at Peel is providing results as a key forward and part time ruckman. We need to upgrade him and see if he can make it in that role at the top level.

De Boer had a strong game on the weekend and continues to give everything every week. Langdon too is on the cusp of selection.

Ballas is playing injured and is not up to his usual standards and Sheridan is having a horrible run of poor form in a critical position.

The Griffin / Clarke ruck combo is just awful and has exposed how little depth we actually have in this area behind Sandi. For my mind Clarke is a much better long term prospect ( injuries a major issue though of course ). GWS are going to smash us in this area no matter what we do so I think we should give Clarke the challenge with Smith the resting ruckman up forward.

Our backline is going to be way too short and inexperienced so Ibbo comes in for Cameron and Dawson will have to go to Lobb and A.Pearce for Patton.

It is not going to be pretty but it will be great to continue to see the kids like Weller, Tucker, Grey, Blakely, Langdon get a go and see if Smith will be able to fill a role for us.

In - Smith ( rookie upgrade ) , Langdon, De Boer , Ibbotson
Out - Sherridan, Ballas ( rest ) , Griffin , D.Pearce
 
With the teams being announced in 12 hours or so I thought that a quick discussion would be worthwhile.

Most people seem to be on the same page that we should continue to blood young talent and give them an extended opportunity to show their talent before ( what will be a very thorough ) list examination at the end of the season.

Tanner Smith is a very interesting case for my mind where his move forward at Peel is providing results as a key forward and part time ruckman. We need to upgrade him and see if he can make it in that role at the top level.

De Boer had a strong game on the weekend and continues to give everything every week. Langdon too is on the cusp of selection.

Ballas is playing injured and is not up to his usual standards and Sheridan is having a horrible run of poor form in a critical position.

The Griffin / Clarke ruck combo is just awful and has exposed how little depth we actually have in this area behind Sandi. For my mind Clarke is a much better long term prospect ( injuries a major issue though of course ). GWS are going to smash us in this area no matter what we do so I think we should give Clarke the challenge with Smith the resting ruckman up forward.

Our backline is going to be way too short and inexperienced so Ibbo comes in for Cameron and Dawson will have to go to Lobb and A.Pearce for Patton.

It is not going to be pretty but it will be great to continue to see the kids like Weller, Tucker, Grey, Blakely, Langdon get a go and see if Smith will be able to fill a role for us.

In - Smith ( rookie upgrade ) , Langdon, De Boer , Ibbotson
Out - Sherridan, Ballas ( rest ) , Griffin , D.Pearce
Patton hasn't been in great form this year so far. Only kicked 4 goals in 5 games. I doubt GWS will allow Mundy to be the +1 defender after seeing how damaging he was in the 1st qtr against Adelaide. I think they will look to put someone on him from the get go. I would prefer it if we put Mundy on their least effective tall (Patton) so he could work off him at every opportunity (Like we did with Johnson when we had Macca and Daws taking 1 and 2).

Both Sherro and Sutty are in poor form so I wouldn't be against dropping one of them but I'd probably bring in Hughes over Ibbo as he has put together a quite a few good games now.

I agree on the Griff/Clarke comment. Neither are much chop at the moment so we may as well tell one of them to do 80-90% of the rucking and give Tanner a go as a forward/ruck.

Ballas definitely needs to rest his leg. Would try Crozier in his spot and bring in Langdon as the link player.

De Boer deserves a crack after some good performances too but not sure who he could come in for. We need to persist with the kids so he would have to come in for a senior player.
 
Hughes and De Boer in for Sheridan (injured) and Balla (or Crozier).

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Most people seem to be on the same page that we should continue to blood young talent and give them an extended opportunity to show their talent before ( what will be a very thorough ) list examination at the end of the season.

Tanner Smith is a very interesting case for my mind where his move forward at Peel is providing results as a key forward and part time ruckman. We need to upgrade him and see if he can make it in that role at the top level.

De Boer had a strong game on the weekend and continues to give everything every week. Langdon too is on the cusp of selection.

Ballas is playing injured and is not up to his usual standards and Sheridan is having a horrible run of poor form in a critical position.

The Griffin / Clarke ruck combo is just awful and has exposed how little depth we actually have in this area behind Sandi. For my mind Clarke is a much better long term prospect ( injuries a major issue though of course ). GWS are going to smash us in this area no matter what we do so I think we should give Clarke the challenge with Smith the resting ruckman up forward.

Our backline is going to be way too short and inexperienced so Ibbo comes in for Cameron and Dawson will have to go to Lobb and A.Pearce for Patton.

It is not going to be pretty but it will be great to continue to see the kids like Weller, Tucker, Grey, Blakely, Langdon get a go and see if Smith will be able to fill a role for us.

In - Smith ( rookie upgrade ) , Langdon, De Boer , Ibbotson
Out - Sherridan, Ballas ( rest ) , Griffin , D.Pearce
 
Agree, we lose absolutely nothing if Tanner gets a go instead of one of Griffin/Clarke. If he were displacing someone else, probably different.
 

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To follow up. Fingers crossed for the young man

Still got a bad feeling about this game. I can't see us being consistent for long enough and think we'll be hearing that annoying GWS song for the first time after the siren.
 
To follow up. Fingers crossed for the young man

Still got a bad feeling about this game. I can't see us being consistent for long enough and think we'll be hearing that annoying GWS song for the first time after the siren.
I love the GWS song. I think it's my fav of all the songs.
 
I thought Crozier, while quiet against the Crows, did some good things and especially some important 1%s that haven't seem to have gotten much of a mention here. He was fantastic against he Blues and no doubt needs to stay in the team.
The only one I would think in danger of getting dropped is Ballas, and we don't really have a replacement small forward to come in. Yarran you wouldn't thing has the fitness yet.
Sutcliffe and Sheriden would be one more bad game away from playing for Peel, could possibly even be this week. Hughes and Ibbo a chance to replace them.
 
Out: croz, grey, maybe sutty, clarke

In 25: Langdon, deboer , ibbo, hughes
 

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