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  1. Swiggy

    Swiggy Rookie

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    Taberner, McCarthy in

    Spurr Kersten out

    B: Ryan Hamling Hughes

    HB: Weller Johnson Blakey

    C: Hill Fyfe Hill

    HF: Mundy Cox Walters

    F: McCarthy Taberner Ballanytne

    Darcy
    Neale
    Suban
    Logue, Tucker, Nyhuis, Crozier

    To be honest they aren't that far away. need to clean up kicks inside 50 & goalkicking..
    Think have to stick with Taberner from now on till the end of the year
     

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  2. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

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    Kersten won't be out .:oops:

     
  3. balthazarthedonk

    balthazarthedonk Senior List

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    4 weeks? Spurr has been a horrible (and slow) decision maker and questionable kick for 18 months. Doesn't stop him being an automatic selection though. Sutcliffe had to sink to truly execrable levels before he wasn't a first choice defender too

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  4. freo1997

    freo1997 Club Legend

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    Absolutely. As I said before he wasn't that bad. Just the whipping boy for you lot.

    In saying that he needs support from tabs.
     
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  5. Joao

    Joao Club Legend

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    Disagree with that, and that's ok. I think he was still doing a lot of the good Spurr things earlier this year (definitely last year).

    I can live with him being dropped because new shiny players are more fun. I am also happy if the coaches think the younger players need direction.
     
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  6. Joao

    Joao Club Legend

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    Agree with this. Kersten and Crozier (Ballas as well now) are the whipping boys since Sutty got dropped (and before that for some).

    I think we need to be more patient with the whole front half. I actually thought Crozier was quite good considering (missed pass to Neale aside) and Kersten kicked a goal - which was a big ****ing deal today.

    Tabs needs to come in though. Can't kick 11 goals in two games and not get a sniff in this forward line. If he doesn't I think we can put a line through him at the Dockers.
     
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  7. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

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    #32 meima, Jul 16, 2017
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    Why not ? Grey is the bad kick whipping boy , Tab is the drop mark whipping boy , don't see why Kersten and croz can escape from this ,where both Tab and grey are dropped .
     
  8. Joao

    Joao Club Legend

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    Grey has the same role as Crozier and does it worse. Seriously look up the stats if you don't believe me.

    Agree Tabs gets treated a little harsh. I suspect their is something they don't like about Tabs - whether right or wrong I don't know.

    I also think it is worth mentioning that IMO Croz and Kersten have more talent than Grey and Tabs. It is the same reason why Logue is getting a game and Collins isn't I reckon.
     
  9. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

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    If base on purely talent and youth alone Gu and deboer won't get a game with GWS .
     
  10. Joao

    Joao Club Legend

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    100% completely different situation. They are both only getting games because they are challenging and their list is decimated with injuries. Totally irrelevant comparison.

    I also never said talent is the only thing. I rate Grey's attack and was happy to see him get a gig. He still has to perform. Hopefully he goes back to Peel and earns another recall. If he is capable, he will get there because he works his ass off.
     
  11. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

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    I had no problem with grey playing wafl at all , as his form had not been good recently ,but to said croz and Kersten as the new whipping boy is the part I disagree with . If they play badly they deserve the same criticism as other like sutty,sheriden,suban and grey .
     

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  12. IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN

    IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN Norm Smith Medallist

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    It's a rebuild peanut.

    Having a higher number in the games played column doesn't mean you're good enough to be in the team moving forward.

    They're both clearly not part of the future, while arguably dragging us down at present.

    They're on the edge of the 22 now and would be out of it with a fully fit list. They're only going to drop further and further down that list.
     
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  13. Alfonz

    Alfonz Norm Smith Medallist

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    The whole "keep Spurr for his experience" rationale is something I don't get.

    What exactly is he going to teach? Sure he gives good effort, but he has so many bad habits that I don't see what benefit the youngsters get from his presence. Didn't miss him at all last week.

    He's been a loyal servant and tried his heart out. But now it is time for the WAFL.
     
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  14. fnerd

    fnerd All Australian

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    He did actually, slow ball movement and 40 metre loopy kicks to no one in particular
     
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  15. Unique Name

    Unique Name Norm Smith Medallist

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    Yeah Spurr really added nothing. We're playing with 9 defenders in the side. Would be pretty happy if he wasn't one of them next week.
     
  16. Unique Name

    Unique Name Norm Smith Medallist

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    Is Spurr out of contract at the end of the year?
     
  17. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

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    2018 same with d.pearce.:(. hopefully the young one won't vote him to be in leadership group.
     
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  18. Scham

    Scham Norm Smith Medallist

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    Concerned that we might burn out the youngsters if we're not careful.

    Darcy, Cox, Logue and Ballas out.

    Griff, Tabs, Sutty and Deluca in.

    Unfortunately Spurr will keep getting picked and McCarthy should come back through the two's.
     
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  19. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

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    Don't mind sutty but not in the backline . Maybe HF.
     
  20. Bicco

    Bicco Club Legend

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    Personally don't believe we should be resting players due to burnout. They're footballers and they need to football. Team we had today should play next week apart from injuries or if there is a better young player to come in.
     
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  21. rgauci

    rgauci Norm Smith Medallist

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    I'd put Spurr forward. For a couple of reasons, he can take a mark and is physically quite strong for his size. He'd ragdoll some of the weaker small
    Defenders. Reasonable leap too.

    The other reason, is to see how he compares athletically to players who play his position. If he is completely off the pace, left behind in every contest, it makes the decision easier.

    Lastly, it opens up the spots for the young defenders where we seem to have a glut of players.
     
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  22. Kunna17

    Kunna17 Club Legend

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    The delivery forwards awful - yes. But a large part of that is the forwards wanting 50+ m bombs over the top of defenders only 5/6m in front of them. They're tough kicks... our Forwards need to know when to stop and turn back at the ball. (Not like we have a huge number of them though)
    For mine the lineup should be something like
    FB - Nyhuis, Hamling, Hughes
    HB - Blakely, Johnson, Ryan
    C - Weller, Neale, S.Hill
    HF - B.Hill, Cox, Tucker
    FF - McCarthy, Tabs, Walters
    FOL - Darcy, Mundy, Fyfe
    INT - Crozier, DeLuca, Suban, Ballas

    Would be:
    Outs - Spurr, Logue, Kersten (Suban/Ballas close by)
    Ins - Deluca, McCarthy, Tabs
     
  23. jedi mind tricks

    jedi mind tricks Brownlow Medallist

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    This

    Spurr can go too
     
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  24. FreoMonocle

    FreoMonocle Premium Gold

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    Probably needs to become the main ruck in q4, Darcy tires out by then.
     
  25. mike91

    mike91 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Didn't get much of it, but made something happen when he had hit. Kersten was ok, kicking to him was shit.
     

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