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Prediction Changes v Port
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We have a 60% grand final win rate there!!!
Expected most of the changes but not wanting them to eventuate.
My energy level for the match is akin to looking forward to dancing classes with your sister.
What makes it worse is Port naming 2 debutants on the extended bench in addition to The Shaker who is solid best 22.
The dropping of Masten was good.
Priddis in the guts and fully fit means he hopefully stays out of the forward line where he was useless.
LeCras in is the one that just pisses me off.
Surely we reward the players that were pivotal winning in Melbourne!
Hoping to see excluded from extended bench Wellers, Schofield and LeCras.
My energy level for the match is akin to looking forward to dancing classes with your sister.
What makes it worse is Port naming 2 debutants on the extended bench in addition to The Shaker who is solid best 22.
The dropping of Masten was good.
Priddis in the guts and fully fit means he hopefully stays out of the forward line where he was useless.
LeCras in is the one that just pisses me off.
Surely we reward the players that were pivotal winning in Melbourne!
Hoping to see excluded from extended bench Wellers, Schofield and LeCras.
Miguel Sanchez
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His actual quote was about getting not getting Priddis questions after wins. Seeing as he was talking to the media, and answering a question from the media, he was probably talking about questions from the media. I don't know how accurate that is, but the Priddis questions from the media have only started fairly recently, and we've lost a lot of games lately so it probably checks out.
I really don't think coming onto footy forums would be of much benefit to him. It'd be pretty hard to sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Looking at the extended bench and trying to guess who makes the cut
Hutchings got coaches votes from Simpson (sure as **** wouldn't have been drinkyourownbathwater) and has been in good form as a lockdown player so he's a no brainer as an in
Lycett I suspect is cover for Vardy who may be under a cloud. Doubt he plays otherwise and we'd be too tall. At least I hope he doesn't play unless one of the talls named in the starting 18 is a late out
Schofield I'm guessing is cover for Hurn or maybe Barrass because for the same reasons as Lycett we're too tall if he plays without another tall coming out
Wellingham and Cole both retain their spots from last week I think although I'm unconvinced they're not carrying a niggle from last week. For now I'm going to assume they're OK and the club has specifically stated Wellingham has trained fully. So they're both in
Leaves Lecras and Redden fighting for the last spot
Redden played well enough to hold his spot but with Priddis coming in it pushes him to a more HF type role. Not my preferred situation but reality is that's what will happen. In this instance Lecras playing deeper forward with Karpany pushed either might work
That scenario is contingent on Lecras being completely over his injury troubles. It's easy to forget that his form through the first seven rounds was quite good - 17.8 and averaging 17 disposal per game. His round 7 game against port was very good and instrumental in us winning the match. Goal kicking aside (0.3) he still had a reasonable game against the Bulldogs in round 8 with 18 disposals before falling away against Essendon along with most of his teammates.
It was that game the club are saying he sustained the injury that's contributed to his poor form in the two games he's played since and kept him out of the side for the other three
Port are a high scoring side so Lecras offers another potential avenue to goal that we may need in JK's continuing absence. We haven't kicked a higher score than the 97 we scored against Port since that game
So despite Reddens solid game against the Bulldogs I'm ok with Lecras coming back in based on his added scoring power should he be able to replicate his early season form having shaken off his injury issues. At the very least he will draw a good defender
Should either Wellingham or Cole not get up then Redden gets a reprieve
Predicting that Lycett, Schofield and Redden will be cut from the 25
Hutchings got coaches votes from Simpson (sure as **** wouldn't have been drinkyourownbathwater) and has been in good form as a lockdown player so he's a no brainer as an in
Lycett I suspect is cover for Vardy who may be under a cloud. Doubt he plays otherwise and we'd be too tall. At least I hope he doesn't play unless one of the talls named in the starting 18 is a late out
Schofield I'm guessing is cover for Hurn or maybe Barrass because for the same reasons as Lycett we're too tall if he plays without another tall coming out
Wellingham and Cole both retain their spots from last week I think although I'm unconvinced they're not carrying a niggle from last week. For now I'm going to assume they're OK and the club has specifically stated Wellingham has trained fully. So they're both in
Leaves Lecras and Redden fighting for the last spot
Redden played well enough to hold his spot but with Priddis coming in it pushes him to a more HF type role. Not my preferred situation but reality is that's what will happen. In this instance Lecras playing deeper forward with Karpany pushed either might work
That scenario is contingent on Lecras being completely over his injury troubles. It's easy to forget that his form through the first seven rounds was quite good - 17.8 and averaging 17 disposal per game. His round 7 game against port was very good and instrumental in us winning the match. Goal kicking aside (0.3) he still had a reasonable game against the Bulldogs in round 8 with 18 disposals before falling away against Essendon along with most of his teammates.
It was that game the club are saying he sustained the injury that's contributed to his poor form in the two games he's played since and kept him out of the side for the other three
Port are a high scoring side so Lecras offers another potential avenue to goal that we may need in JK's continuing absence. We haven't kicked a higher score than the 97 we scored against Port since that game
So despite Reddens solid game against the Bulldogs I'm ok with Lecras coming back in based on his added scoring power should he be able to replicate his early season form having shaken off his injury issues. At the very least he will draw a good defender
Should either Wellingham or Cole not get up then Redden gets a reprieve
Predicting that Lycett, Schofield and Redden will be cut from the 25
If only Simmo engaged more with the fans he'd get great insights like this.
Those are damning statistics.
I think you've nailed it....
Outs: Butler, Masten, Redden
Ins: Hurn, LeCras, Priddis
Plus any late outs.
Pretty much like for like. Will be interesting to see LeCras and Priddis performance now they are injury free, no excuses and we've found that we have adequate coverage and competition for their spots now.
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Are we the only club in the league that just doesn't reward form. Feels like it with the naming of Lecras. Pretty shitty from the club. Proves that we are run by muppets. Lecras injury is a crock of shit, and if it was true then I'm pissed that he put himself ahead of the team by playing injured in his last few games which I don't believe. Why can't he go back to wafl and earn his spot. With so many players available right now and the form of Partington and muts it just baffling.
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Hawthorn debuted most of those players in 2016, when they were gunning for a four-peat. So they hadn't fallen off a cliff. Good try tho
Not sure I buy your Geelong argument. We are just as reliant on certain players.
I agree GWS is an outlier, that's why I mentioned a lot of it was down to their injuries.
Bringing in Redden, Jetta, Mitchell etc doesn't come into the equation. I'm not talking about list turnover. I'm talking about the perception that the club is averse to play kids when they are 'contending'.
Don't worry blokes - we're allowed to melt for realsies roughly around 3:30 today [emoji6]
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Just out of interest, which combination of three players off the extended bench being left out would avoid a melt?
If LeCras misses the cut and Redden and Cole survive, would that be sufficient?
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Looking over the last half dozen pages, it is evident that there are some frustrated fans who seem to want to hang out Simmo to try and some sensitive mods who seems want to back in Simmo and his MC.
I think the inclusion of Lecras is the big issue. How does a MC include an out of form and playing injured (hope you are over it now Mark) based on the following season stats:-
It is probably not just this year but a carry-over from 2016 with Mark that is adding to the cries for blood plus the frustration of not playing Parto.
I think the inclusion of Lecras is the big issue. How does a MC include an out of form and playing injured (hope you are over it now Mark) based on the following season stats:-
It is probably not just this year but a carry-over from 2016 with Mark that is adding to the cries for blood plus the frustration of not playing Parto.
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Baffles me really. Last week we had a young hungry team out there beat the Doggies in Melbourne, so this week we decide to bring in all the older players who have under performed all season. ****ing why?
Miguel Sanchez
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And dropped a couple of young hungry players in Butler and Masten?
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Butler is injured. Bringing in Lecras and Priddis for no reason throws up the average age.
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How you assess Lecras' season to date is dependant on how far you buy in to the clubs "he's been carrying an injury line"
His form prior to the Essendon game was sound - a couple of quiet games and a couple of very good ones. It certainly wasn't cause for concern and the strategy of playing him closer to goal and less further up the ground seemed to be working
From the Essendon game onwards his form fell off a cliff. Club says he's been hampered by injury which affected his form, the truthfulness of this we can only guess at
If he plays then justification for the decision will hinge on whether we get Round 7 Lecras or Round 11/13 Lecras when he was clearly brought back too early
He's still capable of being a damaging forward whether that justifies him being a walk up start is open to conjecture
In terms of the mods being sensitive a big part of that is posters pre-emptively melting over what they think might happen rather than what actually has. In what world are the confirmed outs of butler (injured) and Masten a bad thing
Miguel Sanchez
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LeCras is no guarantee to play.
If the changes are Hurn for Butler, Priddis for Masten and Lycett for Wellingham (with Gov going into the backline) then the change to the average age is insignificant.
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That graph demonstrates why. Vintage Lecras with good disposal stats and lots of goals scored right up until his injury. As club supporters we should be hoping and praying his hip has had a chance to heal because we need him fit and back in form asap. Even looking at the goal drought period those numbers are still better than Cripps.
Alright, so i listened to Longmuir on the radio this morning and from that i reckon Lycett, Hurn, Priddis and Lecras are definite ins. Lycett because he made particular mention of the last time Ryder bent us over and the need to better combat that, Hurn because he's the C and Priddis/Lecras because they have runs on the board (that's what he said ffs).
Hurn for Buts
Priddis for Masten
Lecras for ?? (i'll rage if it's Karps)
Lycett for ??
Hurn for Buts
Priddis for Masten
Lecras for ?? (i'll rage if it's Karps)
Lycett for ??
There is a massive difference between "form" and physical abilities/capability. Form is the most over-used under considered word ever. Unless his is not physically capable, Mark Lecras is a match winning dangerous highly skilled forward who works his arse off. Something has gone wrong with his set shot kicking yes.. He's lost some distance too. Maybe that's legacy of his past injuries and age. He's still easy top 5-10 player on our list.
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