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[kelvin_sheedy]

My point was that he has been given a run at AFL level after worse performances in the VFL than his past 2 weeks. He's done pretty good in the past 2 weeks, so IMO he should be elevated, especially at AAMI, where we could use his speed, and even more so if Stants doesnt come up.

Good to see him playing well but needs to do more.

Reports suggested that his first game wasn't that good even though he got a bit of the ball.

He needs to be doing a lot more at that level.

Three 30 possie games and in the best 3 on ground in a row and I'll be willing to give him another chance.

 

[jnash196]

We could do that, but Lucas supplies the rest of the forwards with inside 50's all the time so we would loose that drive around CHF. Id love to see him and Lloyd one out but there's no one who can do what Lucas does at CHF, unless of course we bring Kepler in and play him at CHF, would you want Keps to come in and play at CHF so Lucas can play at FF, or would you rather leave Lucas at CHF and Keps at Bendigo?

We could play LLoyd at CHF like 2004. If the choice is between Kepler at Bendigo or at Essendon I think you know which one I would take

 

[GoDons]

Good to see him playing well but needs to do more.

Reports suggested that his first game wasn't that good even though he got a bit of the ball.

He needs to be doing a lot more at that level.

Three 30 possie games and in the best 3 on ground in a row and I'll be willing to give him another chance.

On that basis no one's even close to being worthy of coming up except for possibly Bradley who will probably be left out again for structural reasons.

If Stanton doesn't come up or if we drop Campo, Dyson is clearly the first guy to come in for them in my opinion. The two others that may rival him are Heffernan and Cole but Dyson probably deserves it more than them.

 

[Charliebrow 16]

Depends on if Stanton gets up, but by all reports he will, i'd like Dyson to get another crack in the seniors but one good performance isn't enough in my opinion to rush him straight back into the side.
Also, whilst Bradley was great for Bendigo i think he'll unbalance the side.

I've been saying this for a while but i'd really like to see Hislop make his debut although not this week.

 

[Daytripper]

Depends on if Stanton gets up, but by all reports he will, i'd like Dyson to get another crack in the seniors but one good performance isn't enough in my opinion to rush him straight back into the side.
Also, whilst Bradley was great for Bendigo i think he'll unbalance the side.

I've been saying this for a while but i'd really like to see Hislop make his debut although not this week.

Kepler can and should play on the wing.
He's a better player than Dyson in nearly every facet.

I bet these same people who think Kepler can't play on the wing are the same people who thought Lucas could never go to CHB or that Johns could never play in defense.

Keps played on the wing as a junior. Its a spot he'll be confortable in and he can wreak some havoc on the opposition with his match up issues.

I don't understand the rush to get Hislop in the side. Kepler has been in our best for 4 weeks straight. Its time to give him a go.

Won't hurt his trade value either for those detractors out there.

 

[Darealrath]

Kepler can and should play on the wing.

He looks to have found a bit of a niche as a forward. If we're going to play him play him up there. Give him a bit of license to roam so he can use his engine but we've got to find out if we're onto something with him as a forward.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Sorry..why should there be ANY changes. We just beat the competition favourites FFS! No changes unless Stanton does not come up.

 

[ManWithNoName]

out campo & bolton
in Lovett & cole

Bolton out based on what? His 2 great games?

 

[Charliebrow 16]

Kepler can and should play on the wing.
He's a better player than Dyson in nearly every facet.

I bet these same people who think Kepler can't play on the wing are the same people who thought Lucas could never go to CHB or that Johns could never play in defense.

Keps played on the wing as a junior. Its a spot he'll be confortable in and he can wreak some havoc on the opposition with his match up issues.

I don't understand the rush to get Hislop in the side. Kepler has been in our best for 4 weeks straight. Its time to give him a go.

Won't hurt his trade value either for those detractors out there.

Not a big Kep fan to be honest, still think he's be better off playing in the reserves again just to make him see how difficult it really is to get back into this Essendon team because all last year he knew he could get a game even when he was playing poor because of all the injuries we had.
It'll make him a better player and make him grasp this chance with both hands.

I'm not in a rush to see Hislop get a game, i said i'd like to see him get a game. He's a promising talent and like all players, he just needs time.

 

[GoDons]

Kepler can and should play on the wing.
He's a better player than Dyson in nearly every facet.

I bet these same people who think Kepler can't play on the wing are the same people who thought Lucas could never go to CHB or that Johns could never play in defense.

Keps played on the wing as a junior. Its a spot he'll be confortable in and he can wreak some havoc on the opposition with his match up issues.

I don't understand the rush to get Hislop in the side. Kepler has been in our best for 4 weeks straight. Its time to give him a go.

Won't hurt his trade value either for those detractors out there.

A facet that Kepler is not superior in is pace. It can't be stressed enough just how important pace is to the Essendon side given that we have so many onballers who, whulst vital to our structure, let us down in the pace department.

If you don't have pace and you want to be an addition to our midfield at the moment, you must bring good disposal. Another thing Kepler doesn't bring to the table.

Our current structure just doesn't support Kepler whether he's played as a forward or a wingman. Kep will probably only get a chance if Hille, Laycock, Lloyd, Lucas or Ryder go down injured. He's going to have to play key position because our core midfield is too slow to accomodate him and, as it stands currently, he's not better than any members of our core midfield.

 

[Daytripper]

A facet that Kepler is not superior in is pace. It can't be stressed enough just how important pace is to the Essendon side given that we have so many onballers who, whulst vital to our structure, let us down in the pace department.

If you don't have pace and you want to be an addition to our midfield at the moment, you must bring good disposal. Another thing Kepler doesn't bring to the table.

Our current structure just doesn't support Kepler whether he's played as a forward or a wingman. Kep will probably only get a chance if Hille, Laycock, Lloyd, Lucas or Ryder go down injured. He's going to have to play key position because our core midfield is too slow to accomodate him and, as it stands currently, he's not better than any members of our core midfield.

Disposal
Kepler > Dyson

Height
Kepler > Dyson

Strength
Kepler > Dyson

Ability
Kepler > Dyson

Marking
Kepler > Dyson

Below the knees
Kepler < Dyson

Pace
Maybe Dyson. Just. And its not by much.

Doesn't have to play midfield - just on the wing.

 

[RED AND BLACK SOLDIER]

Disposal
Kepler > Dyson

Height
Kepler > Dyson

Strength
Kepler > Dyson

Ability
Kepler > Dyson

Marking
Kepler > Dyson

Below the knees
Kepler < Dyson

Pace
Maybe Dyson. Just. And its not by much.

Doesn't have to play midfield - just on the wing.

All the ones highlighted are the ones that I think Dyson has the edge over Bradley. Dyson has better decision making, disposal is easily better, has got more pace, better below the knees and is better under pressure. All the ones highlighted are the things that actually matter when your playing on the wing, marking, strength and height rarely come into play when your playing on a wing. I would not want Kepler in the team unless he was going to play forward. If we want someone to play on a wing out of Dyson and Bradley, it would be Dyson easily.

 

[whirl]

If Bradley was only slightly slower than Dyson he wouldn't have had half the troubles he did as a backman.

 

[Longy413]

I don't reckon Dyson is better than Kep below his knees.

Kep is good for a big man, Dyson is average for a small man.

Dyson definately has him covered for pace, but he doesn't use it. Definately quicker off the mark.

 

[Longy413]

If Bradley was only slightly slower than Dyson he wouldn't have had half the troubles he did as a backman.

Bradley had troubles as a backman because he was a 19 year old playing on 25-30 year old stars of the game.

If Kep was playing in Ryder's role right now, I'm sure we'd all have a different opinion of him.

 

[dave_27]

If Bradley was only slightly slower than Dyson he wouldn't have had half the troubles he did as a backman.

I'll say, Kepler makes Mal look like a jet off the mark.

 

[dave_27]

If Kep was playing in Ryder's role right now, I'm sure we'd all have a different opinion of him.

Like on Anzac day?

 

[Longy413]

Like on Anzac day?

When did Kep play as a loose man in defense on Anzac Day?

 

[dave_27]

When did Kep play as a loose man in defense on Anzac Day?

He replaced Ryder after he went into the ruck didnt he?

 

[Longy413]

He replaced Ryder after he went into the ruck didnt he?

He played on Travis Cloke.

Pretty sure McPhee started on him.

 

[GoDons]

Disposal
Kepler > Dyson

Height
Kepler > Dyson

Strength
Kepler > Dyson

Ability
Kepler > Dyson

Marking
Kepler > Dyson

Below the knees
Kepler < Dyson

Pace
Maybe Dyson. Just. And its not by much.

Doesn't have to play midfield - just on the wing.

You may be right about a few of these things, but in the ones I agree with you on, we really don't need.

Disposal: I disagree with you here. Kepler's disposal on potential is quite good but still not as good as Dyson's. Kepler is known for errors in disposal and Dyson is also prone to mistakes, but not as many as Kep. Disposal is very important for speeding up our side and is the main reason Campo is in the side. I believe Dyson provides greater quality in this area.

Height: Kepler is taller but given we have Lloyd, Lucas, Hille, Laycock, Ryder, Fletcher and Michael as well as Hird, Bolton and McPhee who can play tall, height is the least of our worries. We don't need height.

Strength: Kepler is stronger but it's similar to above, we don't need strength. We have a lot of grunt with our talls listed above as well as Watson, JJ, Pev and MJ. We don't need more strength.

Ability: A very tough one to judge. They're very different players with abilities lying in different areas.

Marking: Again, we have Lloyd, Lucas, Hird, Hille, Laycock, McPhee, Ryder, Fletcher and Michael who can take marks. This is not something that needs to be addressed.

Below the Knees: Dyson is superior and given we don't need a marking player, this a skill that is required.

Pace: With so many talls and in and under midfielders as well as having Lovett, Lovett-Murray, Jetta and Dempsey out of the side, we need guys who can give Winderlich, Davey and Stanton some support in running through the lines. And it's more than just quicker, Dyson is a lot quicker than Kepler. If you've seen the most recent edition of Bomber magazine you'd notice that Dyson runs 20m in just 0.02 seconds slower than Andrew Lovett. He's one of the quickest guys at the club.

 

[dave_27]

He played on Travis Cloke.

Pretty sure McPhee started on him.

No it was Paddy and a darn good job he was doing on him aswell for the first quarter and a half.

 

[Longy413]

we don't need a marking player, this a skill that is required.

Monfries plays as a marking player and he's struggling.

He's one of the quickest guys at the club.

Yet refuses to use it.
Until he consistently takes the game on at VFL level and uses his strengths, he should stay there.

Ricky Dyson not playing to his strengths is useless to us.

 

[GoDons]

He played on Travis Cloke.

Pretty sure McPhee started on him.

I think you're incorrect here. I'm pretty sure it was Paddy who started on Travis Cloke on ANZAC Day.

In fact, I wouldn't have said Paddy's played loose much at all. THat role's been left for Fletch.

 

[Longy413]

No it was Paddy and a darn good job he was doing on him aswell for the first quarter and a half.

Thinking back, you're right. Did McPhee go onto him at some stage?

Although that wasn't really my point.

I'm a massive fan of Ryder, but he's had a pretty easy ride compared to Kep. Other than O'Loughlin, he hasn't really had a big name opponent.

Kep got Pav, Richo, Tredrea, Brown, Hall etc.

Even on Friday night when Ryder was on Mitch Brown who was getting a fair bit of ball on him leading up to the contest, Ryder was moved off him to allow him to "float"

I don't think Kepler is in our best side, but I do think his current form is deserving of a game and I do think he could play Monfries role with a lot of success at the moment.