Preview Changes v Richmond

[Mister Snrub]

Revised timeline for Dunkley sounds positive. Forwards stocks looking very thin

 

[Doggies_13]

Would still make the following changes for this week.

out: gowers la.young porter(inj)
In: Lloyd lew.young McLean

Offers a better midfield option, gives us a second tall up forward plus flexibility to swing back if needed and a natural small forward to help the forward line function better

 

[Bulldog Brent]

McLean has to come in surely for Porter.

Cavarra, Trengove in the mix?

 

[Libba39]

Interested in what everyone thinks is our best forward set up when we have everyone healthy?

HF: Dale Naughton Vandermeer
FF: Lloyd Bruce Wallis

I'd have Dickson in there at the drop of a hat if it was 2016 Dickson. Excited about Weightman's prospects too.

 

[Doggies_13]

McLean has to come in surely for Porter.

Cavarra, Trengove in the mix?

Cant see Trengove coming in as anything but a defender, every scratch match report talks about him having played kpd and atm an extra kpd is the last thing we need

 

[weltschmerz]

Would still make the following changes for this week.

out: gowers la.young porter(inj)
In: Lloyd lew.young McLean

Offers a better midfield option, gives us a second tall up forward plus flexibility to swing back if needed and a natural small forward to help the forward line function better

I'm up for that. Wouldn't mind giving Cavarra a second chance too.

 

[Doggies_13]

I'm up for that. Wouldn't mind giving Cavarra a second chance too.

Think cavarra should get another crack too but Lloyd has more runs on the board and wouldn’t want us making 4-5 changes this week

 

[Euku]

HF: schache Bruce Vandermeer
FF: Dale Naughton Wallis

 

[Doggies_13]

Interested in what everyone thinks is our best forward set up when we have everyone healthy?

I think our best set up is the following:

Hf: Richards naughton vandermeer
F: Wallis Bruce Lloyd

Don’t think Wallis Lloyd and dale can all play in the same forward line, Richards and vandermeer offer speed and pressure, Wallis can play that third tall sort of role as he’s more a marking forward role

 

[weltschmerz]

FB: Williams Keath Daniel
HB: Crozier Cordy Wood
C: Richards Bont Macrae
HF: Vandermeer LeYoung McLean
FF: Wallis Bruce Weightman
F: English Smith Libba

IC: Lipinski JJ Lloyd/Cavarra Suckling

 

[Mojorisin]

FB: Williams Keath Daniel
HB: Crozier Cordy Wood
C: Richards Bont Macrae
HF: Vandermeer LeYoung McLean
FF: Wallis Bruce Weightman
F: English Smith Libba

IC: Lipinski JJ Lloyd/Cavarra Suckling

Would much prefer cavarra to Lloyd. Lloyd is great at sneaking a goal but cavarra does that just aswell whilst adding defensive pressure

 

[Mister Snrub]

Would much prefer cavarra to Lloyd. Lloyd is great at sneaking a goal but cavarra does that just aswell whilst adding defensive pressure

Lloyds form this year has been so disappointing after a great 2019. Cavarra deserves another opportunity, hope we see him getting a game soon.

Wallis makes Lloyd far less needed, whereas we desperately lack the pressure that Cavarra would bring

 

[Mojorisin]

Hopefully Naughton is back closer to 2 weeks rather then 4. Get him creating some chemistry with bruce. Im sure bruce will appreciate not being the focal point aswell

 

[bullish23]

Which games?
I'm assuming R23 v Freo was one. Not a great comparison to the current situation for several reasons.
Which was the other occasion?

I thought he also did it v lions at the Gabba also a rd 23 game in 2015? I recall we played a young side. Maybe I’m mistaken.

If and it’s a big if, we can get the job done v tigers, I’d be inclined to rest en mass v port and reload v lions and crows.

 

[Mojorisin]

I thought he also did it v lions at the Gabba also a rd 23 game in 2015? I recall we played a young side. Maybe I’m mistaken.

If and it’s a big if, we can get the job done v tigers, I’d be inclined to rest en mass v port and reload v lions and crows.

It's a very winnable game against port of the last couple of performances are any thing to go by

 

[Doggy]

I thought he also did it v lions at the Gabba also a rd 23 game in 2015? I recall we played a young side. Maybe I’m mistaken.

If and it’s a big if, we can get the job done v tigers, I’d be inclined to rest en mass v port and reload v lions and crows.

So you want to throw the game against Port ... yeah nah

 

[Golden_6]

Would much prefer cavarra to Lloyd. Lloyd is great at sneaking a goal but cavarra does that just aswell whilst adding defensive pressure

You do realise that Cavarra has kicked a grand total of one AFL goal right?

 

[weltschmerz]

Cavarra and Weightman swapping out in that forward pocket would be good, Weightman was pretty obviously tiring in his last match.

 

[Mojorisin]

You do realise that Cavarra has kicked a grand total of one AFL goal right?

I do. From one game where he got nearly no delivery and the delivery the forwards did get was horrible

 

[ringa5]

So looks like the forward line remains short.
Hopefully Naughton is only 2 more
Schache concussion = bad timing
And Lewis Young is playing back in the scratch matches possibly for defensive back up.
Wish we could call up Jamarra.A year early...

 

[Pugz89]

We will get a bye soon, probably round 14. Still need to play WA teams and with the 14 day quaratine.

We are playing WA teams in hub.

 

[Next Waiting]

We need to dismiss this notion that resting a whole lot of players at once is a realistic option.

Bevo is not going to leave all of Bont, Macrae, Libba and 4-5 other regulars out of any one game. Not even under the pretext that 2-3 of them are "sore" or suffering "tightness".

First reason is that the AFL will send a stern "please explain" and possibly issue sanctions. Perhaps not for tanking (although that could be argued) but for the bad look it gives the game. All clubs are on board to try to make this f**ed-up season work the best it can. Effectively throwing a game in order to give players a rest is not in keeping with that.

Second reason is that's not the way Bevo operates. He might adopt a risky approach at times (such as having Gowers plus 3 sub-10 gamers play against the Suns) but he is still angling to win those games and in fact pulled it off against GC. I doubt he'd ever deliberately approach a H&A game and say "I think we'll sacrifice this one".

Possibly a third reason might have something to do with sports betting. It should never come into it, but the AFL has sold its soul to the devil on that one so it's always going to be a background consideration.

We have a relatively young list (very few over 30), playing shortened games with extended breaks after goals and we are getting 5-6 day breaks, so it's not all that bad. Player recovery rates will be carefully monitored. I imagine midweek training is less intense than during a normal season.

No doubt there will be some players rested at some stage (eg Libba) but I'd be surprised if it was more than 2 at any one time.

I think you could get away with voluntarily resting a player in every line in a condensed package of games (ie what we're about to embark on) if changes weren't forced upon you by injury. So perhaps 3 before you move into significant disruption to chemistry and familiarity. That scenario might be the ideal if you're going down the player management path but unlikely because of the random nature of injuries so if you have to have injuries, hopefully they are minor and not concentrated in a specific area, especially midfield.

Very very unlikely that any coach, including Bevo, would choose to rest say 3 of his best midfielders in the same match. This is where someone like Toby McLean could be invaluable. We could conceivably rest all of Bont, Libba, macrae and Smith for one match each over the next 4 games by subbing McLean into their role. We lose a little each time, but it's not a gaping chasm in ability and is manageable.

 

[Munnez]

HF : Schache Naughts VDM
FF : Weightman Bruce Wallis

 

[The Inbetweener]

Shame for Schache, both Tigers and Port have undersized backlines.

Gee getting Naughton and Dunkley back in 2 weeks would be massive. Assuming Naughton might be a little longer though.

Lloyd’s stocks have increased given he is the last forward standing

 

[Munnez]

So looks like the forward line remains short.
Hopefully Naughton is only 2 more
Schache concussion = bad timing
And Lewis Young is playing back in the scratch matches possibly for defensive back up.
Wish we could call up Jamarra.A year early...

Does suggest that he was putting his head over it though to cop a concussion. Hope it's not a bad one for him