Can Mumford go all day though?
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We put him in the first team for nothing and we can drop him for nothing. Not necessarily fair, but that's life.
No. He can go longer than most expect though because some would assume he is too big to have a decent tank. Pyke will have to play in the ruck which is when Essendon should have an advantage but Pyke has been good by his standards.
The ruck duel is what I'm looking forward to the most, it should be a good contest.
Sydney 37 hitouts Essendon 33 on average. Pretty much on par. I'm looking forward more to the contested disposals and clearances (particularly important for our emerging midfield). Beating the Swans at the stoppages is the key.
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Goodes, O'Keefe and your midfield are where the main dangers are to us. Mumford is in for a very difficult day, if we win it will likely be on the back of dominant performances by Hille and Ryder. Since we have had Jetta and Davey back in the side there haven't been too may running half backs that have had an infuence against us.
I think Hocking is the matchup for O'Keefe as he is strong in the air and has a good tank, he will also work O'Keefe the other way. Goodes is a bit of an issue, we don't really have a matchup for him, this may be a reason to bring Tyson Slattery into the side, if he has a decent tank.
No suprises to me that we've looked a far more balanced & effective side with Slattery and Dyson and to a lesser extent Welsh out of the side.
Fingers crossed non of them come back in this week.
Fletcher out,
T Slattery in.
The only other change could be Lonergan out for someone like Collyer though I don't see this happening. I don't see why we'd mess with a winning formula.
Fingers crossed non of them come back in this week.
Fletcher out,
T Slattery in.
The only other change could be Lonergan out for someone like Collyer though I don't see this happening. I don't see why we'd mess with a winning formula.
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think we need another tall for the swannies since fletch is out
in: daniher, williams
out: fletch, lonergan
backline matchups
daniher - white
hurley - playfair
pears - goodes
hocking/dempsey - o'keefe
with gumby and willo playing permanent forwards and a resting ruck floating thru we should retain our balance nicely.
in: daniher, williams
out: fletch, lonergan
backline matchups
daniher - white
hurley - playfair
pears - goodes
hocking/dempsey - o'keefe
with gumby and willo playing permanent forwards and a resting ruck floating thru we should retain our balance nicely.
We CANNOT bring in Neagle if Gumbleton, Hurley, Hille, and Ryder are all playing!
The forward line would be too top heavy even with Hurley back.
The calls to drop Atkinson are still mind-boggling. Apart from his rebound, the dude laid 2 tackles that directly resulted in goals.
T. Slattery...I wouldn't have thought introducing a new player in a must-win road game would be a good idea, especially with Reimers, Dyson, Williams and Welsh good to go.
Out: Fletcher, Lonergan, Howlett
In: Williams, Dyson, Welsh
Williams needs to play, simple as that. You cannot purchase a player for $300k/year and not play him when a spot opens up.
Push Hurley back, leaving a forward 6 of Williams, Gumbleton, 1 of the rucks, Zaharakis, Monfries, and Davey.
The forward line would be too top heavy even with Hurley back.
The calls to drop Atkinson are still mind-boggling. Apart from his rebound, the dude laid 2 tackles that directly resulted in goals.
T. Slattery...I wouldn't have thought introducing a new player in a must-win road game would be a good idea, especially with Reimers, Dyson, Williams and Welsh good to go.
Out: Fletcher, Lonergan, Howlett
In: Williams, Dyson, Welsh
Williams needs to play, simple as that. You cannot purchase a player for $300k/year and not play him when a spot opens up.
Push Hurley back, leaving a forward 6 of Williams, Gumbleton, 1 of the rucks, Zaharakis, Monfries, and Davey.
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excellent point, he's done nothing for the last four weeks...
Was doing nothing before he got suspended. I've never seen more unanimous support for a player to get maximum weeks from supporters of the same club.
Lol at the Welsh bashing too.
Rd 1, was keeping Ablett under 10 possies for 1st half until they put him forward, or, only onto the ground when Welsh was off.
Rd 3, was very good tagging Marc Murphy
Rd 6, had 20 touches and 9 tackles. Unfortunately let himself down with the suspension.
Dude is averaging over 5 tackles a game, and nearly 19 possesions.
WATCH THE GAME MORE CLOSELY EVERYONE
Rd 1, was keeping Ablett under 10 possies for 1st half until they put him forward, or, only onto the ground when Welsh was off.
Rd 3, was very good tagging Marc Murphy
Rd 6, had 20 touches and 9 tackles. Unfortunately let himself down with the suspension.
Dude is averaging over 5 tackles a game, and nearly 19 possesions.
WATCH THE GAME MORE CLOSELY EVERYONE
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I lol'd.
It's inevitable, being the VC he is an automatic in.
IN: Welsh (would've wanted T Slatts)
OUT: Fletcher
Out: Howlett, Fletcher
In: Welsh, Reimers
Reimers to play forward, Hurley back.
I think Welsh might be a decent match up for O'Keefe. Hocking another option.
Lonergan to stay in and play a forward defensive role on Malceski.
Give Dyson one more week in the twos and all going well, bring him back next week in place of Atko.
In: Welsh, Reimers
Reimers to play forward, Hurley back.
I think Welsh might be a decent match up for O'Keefe. Hocking another option.
Lonergan to stay in and play a forward defensive role on Malceski.
Give Dyson one more week in the twos and all going well, bring him back next week in place of Atko.
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No to Neagle but yes to Williams... They both play tall, Williams has been useless with exception of one game. Just like drafting, as soon as trade is done, it doesn't matter what was spent. If he's not good enough, he shouldn't be in the side.
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Welsh's stats will always be fine, its more how he was butchering the ball. Seems to have lost a bit of time when in possession, everything seemed rushed.
Has Goodes been playing forward only? I thought Roos pretty much gave him license to run the ground. If so, I don't reckon Pears would go the distance. Stanton might be more suitable.
Dyson was just about our most consistent player before getting injured, especially when we were going bad. After five games, I'd expect he'd be near the top of our B&F.
He deserves a spot, whether he gets it or not, is another question.
Hocking isn't good in the air, it's his major weakness. Hill exposed him for this on Friday. Does have the other qualities and still probably the best match up, unless they look at Welsh if O'Keefe plays midfield.
He has a very good tank.
Seems to be spending more time forward of late.
The Bendigo report from the weekend didn't speak very highly of Dyson's performance, but I reckon he'd rise to the occasion if he were selected.
I'm not willing to advocate the inclusion of Welsh as strongly as some others here. I think he should play his way back in. I was more impressed with Myers' work, especially in the first quarter v Dogs, and think he should get another run.
It would be a pity to see Howlett out. I think he's been solid without being great.
Hurley should go back with Fletch out. I'd like to see probably Reimers given a run before Willams, who still isn't performing strongly for Bendigo. Sorry, I don't believe in playing someone just because we traded for them. He's not in form. The same applies to Neagle - how disappointing.
...Ryder can rotate through hb to send Hurley forward on occasion. I thought Friday's match v Dogs was one of Hurley's most solid this year. He was an important link and quick to respond accurately when he received, as well as attracting the defence.
A question for those in the know, is Tyson Slattery a tall defender?
I'm not willing to advocate the inclusion of Welsh as strongly as some others here. I think he should play his way back in. I was more impressed with Myers' work, especially in the first quarter v Dogs, and think he should get another run.
It would be a pity to see Howlett out. I think he's been solid without being great.
Hurley should go back with Fletch out. I'd like to see probably Reimers given a run before Willams, who still isn't performing strongly for Bendigo. Sorry, I don't believe in playing someone just because we traded for them. He's not in form. The same applies to Neagle - how disappointing.
...Ryder can rotate through hb to send Hurley forward on occasion. I thought Friday's match v Dogs was one of Hurley's most solid this year. He was an important link and quick to respond accurately when he received, as well as attracting the defence.
A question for those in the know, is Tyson Slattery a tall defender?
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OUT: Fletcher, Howlett
IN: T Slatts, Reimers
McVeigh, Hurley, Pears
Dempsey, T Slattery, Atkinson
Stanton, Watson, Prismall
Zaharakis, Gumbleton, Monfries
Davey, Ryder, Jetta
Hille, Hocking, Winderlich
Reimers, NLM, Lonergan, Myers
IN: T Slatts, Reimers
McVeigh, Hurley, Pears
Dempsey, T Slattery, Atkinson
Stanton, Watson, Prismall
Zaharakis, Gumbleton, Monfries
Davey, Ryder, Jetta
Hille, Hocking, Winderlich
Reimers, NLM, Lonergan, Myers
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Hate to say this...judging from the comments here it looks like we don't have that much supporters that really pay attention to detail...
Welsh bad? (check out round 1, 3, 5 and 6).
Dyson inconstant? wow
Atkinson useless? wow
It seems some of you are still under certain myths about certain players. I bet ya next thing we will here is Stanton is a crap kick 40 out but a good decision maker...where he is in fact the opposite of those! Or Gumby being out of form because he isn't getting ball when in fact he is being used as a decoy and playing up the ground to provide Ryder and Hille space when they are rested up forward!
C'mon!
Welsh bad? (check out round 1, 3, 5 and 6).
Dyson inconstant? wow
Atkinson useless? wow
It seems some of you are still under certain myths about certain players. I bet ya next thing we will here is Stanton is a crap kick 40 out but a good decision maker...where he is in fact the opposite of those! Or Gumby being out of form because he isn't getting ball when in fact he is being used as a decoy and playing up the ground to provide Ryder and Hille space when they are rested up forward!
C'mon!
Why are so many of you picking Howlett to be dropped??
Has done nothing wrong at all and would have to be the most hard done by player....getting dropped twice for playing well
Lets say Welsh does come in this week and he gets 12 disposals at a pretty high efficiency, say 90%. Playing as a midfielder, would you think that's a low return? Would you think he's played a good game?
Lets say he follows that up with 20 disposals and then 13 disposals, would you think that's pretty low for a mid?
Would you begin to think perhaps he goes missing for periods of the game and probably needs to go back to Bendigo and get his hands on the footy a big more?
The bloke is averaging about 15 touches a game, that's hardly setting the world on fire and whilst he has a crack and he's neat, he's not immune to being dropped and he probably isn't doing enough.
Sorry, but 12 touches just isn't a big enough output from a mid for me and if it was any other midfielder, blokes like Welsh, Dyson, Stanton, we'd be screaming for him to be dropped.
Slattery plays in the back pocket and the belief is that him getting 10 touches isn't enough. How can we tolerate 12 from a mid then?
After a pretty good forecast a few days ago, it now looks like being pretty wet for the game on Sunday in Sydney... has been raining the last few days and looks set to continue into the weekend...
Need to consider this closely with selections. Welsh isn't too bad in a wet old scrap while the loss of Fletcher might be slightly less important... the likes of Goodes/Kirk etc could have a day out against some of our younger bodies if it stays wet so need to be cautious...
Need to consider this closely with selections. Welsh isn't too bad in a wet old scrap while the loss of Fletcher might be slightly less important... the likes of Goodes/Kirk etc could have a day out against some of our younger bodies if it stays wet so need to be cautious...
You think Welsh would have done any better against the doggies?? i dont think he would have. howlett has played about 5-6 games ? shows quite a bit and its only normal that he will have good and bad games. get some games into him i say. Also hasnt howlett been playing a bit of a tagging role?? taggers dont normally rack up the possies...
Slattery is a spud and shouldnt even be in the team. That is all.
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