Preview Changes v Sydney

[Tex Danger]

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He said the bit about if they aren't right to play they won't, didn't hear him bring up about too many weeks off possibly coming up.

he did bring up both those points as he was specifically asked about resting vs west Coast (not Sydney) and mentioned the number of weeks off players could then potentially have

 

[Vhaluus]

Sydney fans way too cocky over on their board

 

[Tex Danger]

You're a broken record. Thommo can barely get to a contest, he's got no toughness to offer at AFL level. Who do you want to remove from our inside midfield group so Thommo can play his 75% TOG in there. He makes us weaker, not stronger, it's 2017, time to catch up.

he said farewell game not for him to push his claims.

If we did rest Sloane and say we also though Greenwood could use another freshen up then they may well go down the Thommo farewell game path, although I think its unlikely. He would have 0% chance of staying in though.

 

[Big Gazoongas]

Are you legit? Like actually legit?

There is zero benefit going hard at Sydney this week. None whatsoever.

We play two games at home regardless and you want us to put all our cards on the table on the possibility we might have to play Sydney Week 1 in finals?

You realise if we demote Sydney to 5th then they likely play a spud team week 1, a defeated Richmond Week 2 and then a home final week 3 against GWS? If that isn't a cherry ripe preparation for a flag then I'm not sure what is.

Rest Sloane, Walker, Mrouch, Talia and Jenkins, play bruise free football and get smashed for all I care. I'd rather play Sydney in week one of finals at home and beat up on them in the hopes they get so
sore that their entire finals campaign is derailed.

If you wanna be the best then you need to beat the best. I'd rather do it with a completely fresh list of our top players.

There is always a benifit, always. Whether you wish to acknowledge that is another matter.

I can see the pros and cons of both arguments, but saying there is zero benifit is fingers I the ears screaming Im not lightening stuff.

 

[1970crow]

This whole conversation is ludicrous and dumb.

We've clearly got some players playing injured or got injured. Why the **** would we play them and risk further injury???

Give them the week off.

If Richmond win their next 2 which they should, losing to Sydney won't matter and imagine the boost if we won a couple down?

The principle of playing injured players in a dead rubber because we're scared of an opponent is probably the most idiotic selection theory ever posted. Who gives a shit if Sydney make the top 4. If they're so scary that we need to mortgage the future for the meaningless present, then I'd rather they made the top 4 so that we might play them in week 1 and make their journey to the GF even harder.

 

[1970crow]

he said farewell game not for him to push his claims.

If we did rest Sloane and say we also though Greenwood could use another freshen up then they may well go down the Thommo farewell game path, although I think its unlikely. He would have 0% chance of staying in though.

He said that he might go head to head with the toughies from Sydney. He's stating that we have a weakness in our midfield that Thommo's inclusion could actually address. It was pretty blatant and hard to miss, not sure how you managed to.

 

[Tex Danger]

I think its clear that we won't rest unnecessarily but there could be a few who we feel need the break if carrying niggles. Tex having foot X-rays then clutching his foot early isn't a good sign although who knows if its the same foot. In the post game interview when asked he kinda went to say "nah it wasn't linked to that" but then he stopped mid sentence as if he thought, yeah its not linked to that but I don't want to make it public knowledge that there actually is another issue there already. I may have been looking things that weren't there but I think he looked conscious of how he was landing all night and not wanting to land/pivot at the same time. That may be due to the fresh niggle, the pre game injury or both (or they are the same thing). I think he likely misses 1 of the next 2.
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Sloane I think may miss.

Kelly iced up but who knows. I doubt he's in doubt.
Jenkins I don't think would be a concern, didn't look limited throughout the game.
Talia I doubt is an issue.
DMac was a cookie a week ago and played so unlikely he needs a rest as it was obviously ok and will only get better.
Greenwood was down but I don't think it would be a tiring thing, if it is theres a rest pre bye anyway and exposure vs Sydney will be beneficial to his finals prep.


So of the ones they will have to consider:
- Tex: if misses we restructure our forward set up and its probably a Milera if he went ok or if not a Seedsman or possibly Gallucci who comes in. Basically play the next in line to get them more exposed AFL form (finals like also) as opposed to a like for like
- Sloane: Probably same as above. Poholke the smokey but that'd be more about giving him a taste than it would be about finals prep.
- Camerons form worries me so any of the above could get a look there if we want to drop him back to gain form. I think we are likely to persevere now though

 

[marty36]

You're a broken record. Thommo can barely get to a contest, he's got no toughness to offer at AFL level. Who do you want to remove from our inside midfield group so Thommo can play his 75% TOG in there. He makes us weaker, not stronger, it's 2017, time to catch up.

As a farewell gift fella nothing more




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[Tex Danger]

He said that he might go head to head with the toughies from Sydney. He's stating that we have a weakness in our midfield that Thommo's inclusion could actually address. It was pretty blatant and hard to miss, not sure how you managed to.

fair enough but the way I read it I was prepared to give benefit of doubt that he meant that his style could go ok in the style of game they bring, not that we would be better for it but that it could have some effect.

Same was said before a wet night against the dogs too though....

Either way doesn't matter, I agreee Thommo has no role this season. Its just if we do have a few who need to miss from the mids they may take it as a chance to farewell him but only IMO if enough miss that its not at the expense of playing players whose finals prep would benefit from an extra AFL game. And to that end I don't expect him to get selected

 

[marty36]

Our thoughts should switch to being cherry ripe for finals, who remembers the winners from round 22 at the end of the season.
Rest players that are really sore. Talia has a groin problem, if ever a injury benefits from rest it's that one. He doesn't need to be an aerobic animal anyway but 2-3 weeks of non contact conditioning would do him the world of good. He can step in straight away and not miss a beat.
This is the perfect chance to freshen up a few players and give a couple of young enthusiastic lads a run. We're not talking about dropping the whole squad just those that are carrying obvious soreness.
These games are dead rubbers to us now, we earned the right to home finals so take advantage of them. Surely we've learnt our lesson from last year about going into finals with injured and worn down players.

Who ever gets rested will play maybe 4 games out of 7 weeks not sure if that's ideal preparation

It's an enormous risk either way


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[Kid A]

We have nothing left to prove this season until finals time. There’s no point going all-out the last two games. Why bother. Does anyone remember our brave run in 2005 when we won 10 in a row including beating top-ranked team West Coast at Subiaco in round 22? Spent all our petrol tickets on that win and achieved nothing.


We have top 2 sewn up. Even if we lose to Sydney we have a good chance of playing Richmond at home in a QF which would be an advantageous result for us. There’s no point us putting all our cards on the table against Sydney. I don’t think the winning form that we’ve built up over a season will dissipate suddenly in one week and if were going to, the bye would kill it. We were shocking in two straight weeks against North Melb and Melbourne but that didn’t kill off our form thereafter.


I’d rest Sloane, Kelly and Talia this week and Walker and Jacobs the week after.

 

[adelaidecrows]

We have nothing left to prove this season until finals time. There’s no point going all-out the last two games. Why bother. Does anyone remember our brave run in 2005 when we won 10 in a row including beating top-ranked team West Coast at Subiaco in round 22? Spent all our petrol tickets on that win and achieved nothing.


We have top 2 sewn up. Even if we lose to Sydney we have a good chance of playing Richmond at home in a QF which would be an advantageous result for us. There’s no point us putting all our cards on the table against Sydney. I don’t think the winning form that we’ve built up over a season will dissipate suddenly in one week and if were going to, the bye would kill it. We were shocking in two straight weeks against North Melb and Melbourne but that didn’t kill off our form thereafter.


I’d rest Sloane, Kelly and Talia this week and Walker and Jacobs the week after.

This West Coast team is fat and Slow and would be flogged sideways by the 2005 West Coast team. I wouldn't rest anyone as we are only 2 weeks from the bye. You don't want guys only playing 1 game in 3 weeks and potentially 2 games in 5 weeks if we win the qualifying final. Makes no sense whatsoever. You don't screw with team and player mojo unless some players are physically spent and are struggling to recover in time or a player as a niggling tightness in a hammy and they dont want to take the risk. We don't want to lose this week as we are only 6 point up on 2nd spot. If we drop to 2nd we potentially have a far harder qualifying final against either Geelong or GWS. Right now, I like the prospect of Richmond. No need to rest players with byes around the corner.

 

[Elite Crow]

With the bye no one needs a rest unless carrying something and that looks like Tex and possibly Sloane. Would be interesting to see if Talia is carrying a groin too.

 

[GreyCrow]

With the bye no one needs a rest unless carrying something and that looks like Tex and possibly Sloane. Would be interesting to see if Talia is carrying a groin too.

I do think he is carrying something. Whether it is enough to stop him or just annoy him is something only Daniel can say. The next is how do the selection committee see his output v anybody else.

Last night it looked like Lever stayed home more and Keath also took the other big man. This left Talia free ( my vision) to hold up a hole in our defence. Is this good enough until the WC game ( rest him then) or does he need to go out now?

 

[Elite Crow]

I do think he is carrying something. Whether it is enough to stop him or just annoy him is something only Daniel can say. The next is how do the selection committee see his output v anybody else.

Last night it looked like Lever stayed home more and Keath also took the other big man. This left Talia free ( my vision) to hold up a hole in our defence. Is this good enough until the WC game ( rest him then) or does he need to go out now?

If it's a groin and he can play against the Swans I'd rest him against West Coast. That gives him 2 weeks to rest it.

 

[GreyCrow]

If it's a groin and he can play against the Swans I'd rest him against West Coast. That gives him 2 weeks to rest it.

This is mine as well. He doesnt fly, he has 2 weeks off then trains full tilt.

 

[Thetrader15]

There is always a benifit, always. Whether you wish to acknowledge that is another matter.

I can see the pros and cons of both arguments, but saying there is zero benifit is fingers I the ears screaming Im not lightening stuff.

Agree. Play hard to win but don't put all your cards on the table

 

[Thetrader15]

I do think he is carrying something. Whether it is enough to stop him or just annoy him is something only Daniel can say. The next is how do the selection committee see his output v anybody else.

Last night it looked like Lever stayed home more and Keath also took the other big man. This left Talia free ( my vision) to hold up a hole in our defence. Is this good enough until the WC game ( rest him then) or does he need to go out now?

Would be a great chance for Keath to learn on Franklin. I'd just be worried about the endurance

 

[GreyCrow]

Would be a great chance for Keath to learn on Franklin. I'd just be worried about the endurance

I dont mind this, and on the endurance then lets find out. If the result doesnt affect our position then Alex can get some 'learning' without getting Massied

 

[Bovo]

I am in two minds about this "resting sore players" talk.

If we rest these players and Sydney smash us, Sydney will come into finals believing they can beat anyone. We go in thinking we don't know if we can beat Sydney. Footy is both mental and physical. I think it is super important to beat Sydney.

 

[Elite Crow]

So Sloane said the knock on the knee hurt an issue he's been dealing with and it flared up again.

He spent last night icing it up.

Must rest him given it's a 6 day break.

 

[Rise_up_Stiffy]

It's an interesting one. Ideally this week would have been the Perth trip to rest players then go hard rd 23 at home. Unfortunately this isn't the case. On a 6 day break i would rest 2 of our sorest players that have reasonable cover in the SANFL. I would love to give Galluci (Sloane) a crack this week.

 

[adelaidecrows]

So Sloane said the knock on the knee hurt an issue he's been dealing with and it flared up again.

He spent last night icing it up.

Must rest him given it's a 6 day break.

See how it pulls up. But it looks like its something that can be played with while sore.

 

[Rise_up_Stiffy]

I mean realistically we get a week off anyway, then if we win our first final a week off after that. Do you want that much discontinuity after playing weekly the whole season? I think for our squad continuity and confidence in our form is probably more important.

 

[Elite Crow]

See how it pulls up. But it looks like its something that can be played with while sore.

We don't need him to and he just had it knocked. Would be madness to risk him