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For the VFL watchers how good has Woodward been since his return?

Good Luck to Alex Johnson...…..hope you get a few possessions and your team loses.


Collingwood
Alex Woodward and Alex Johnson among AFL players to pull together after suffering multiple knee injuries
JON RALPH, Herald Sun
August 1, 2018 6:00pm
Subscriber only
  • ALEX Woodward says Alex Johnson is part of an AFL brotherhood of repeat knee victims as his own remarkable recovery gathers speed.

    Woodward and Johnson are part of a “club” of knee victims including Daniel Menzel who have in recent years shared their highs and “dark times”.


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    Alex Woodward has been elite for the Pies’ VFL team. Picture: Michael Klein
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    Woodward injured his knee playing for Box Hill. Picture: Jenny Owens
    Ex-Hawthorn midfielder Woodward’s ACL has crumpled four times and yet he is the ideal example of what Johnson might be able to do this weekend.

    Back playing in the past month for Collingwood’s VFL team, the 25-year-old has been in astonishing form given what he has endured.

    He has averaged 29.8 disposals (ranked elite), 15 contested possessions (elite), 6.5 clearances (elite), 12.3 ground ball gets (elite) and 115 ranking points (elite).

    Now working as a mortgage broker, he will play on Sunday alongside Tyson Goldsack, back in 20 weeks from his own amazing ACL story.

    Woodward told the Herald Sun yesterday he couldn’t be more thrilled for Johnson, adamant he can scale those lofty heights again.

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    Woodward says he has an affinity with returning Swan Alex Johnson. Picture: AAP
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    Johnson has had five knee reconstructions. Picture: Getty Images
    “When he was playing he was a really good player, so I have no doubt he can get back to that as well,’’ he said.

    “Alex and I have kept in touch the last few years, we have quite relatable circumstances and I couldn’t be happier for him.

    “It’s a true testament to the character of him and it’s a really good reward for the effort he has put into his rehab.

    “I suppose we are part of a little bit of a club and it’s good to have sounding board you can relate to and share your experiences with.

    “It’s good to know you are not alone in these circumstances, it’s not easy by any measure and any support like that is just a little thing that helps you through those dark times of rehab but keeps your motivation high.”

    Alex Woodward's 4 VFL games in 2018
    Stat Score Champion Data Rating
    Ranking points 115 Elite
    Disposals 29.8 Elite
    Contested possessions 15.3 Elite
    Uncontested possessions 15 Elite
    Groundball gets 12.3 Elite
    Clearances 6.5 Elite
    Score involvements 5.3 Above average
    St Kilda’s potential fairytale story in Nathan Freeman is far from a certainty this weekend despite being close to his first game in five seasons.

    Jimmy Webster will return from a groin injury, Hunter Clark could return from a rest, and utility Ben Paton has been close to a debut for weeks.

    Freeman didn’t lay a tackle among his 37 disposals and needs to improve that areas, with a VFL bye this weekend making it hard to push his claims.

    Woodward needed three reconstructions at Hawthorn but also played two AFL games and won the 2014 Liston Medal as the VFL’s best player.

    After rupturing his ACL again in May last year playing for Collingwood’s VFL team, he took his time with his latest recovery.

    Instead of easing back into football, he has dominated for a Collingwood VFL side also on a winning run.

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    Cat Daniel Menzel has had his knee repaired four times.
    Notable players who have had multiple knee surgeries
    Player No. of surgeries
    Alex Johnson 5
    Alex Woodward 4
    Daniel Menzel 4
    David Rodan 4
    Clay Smith 3
    David Schwarz 3
    Jon Patton 3
    Max Bailey 3
    Ryan Fitzgerald 3
    Rourke Smith 2
    “Being out of the AFL system forced me to take my time with it, not that I rushed the other ones,” he said.

    “But footy was my job and I was paid to do it. Through my rehab the last year it has been a release from the job I do every day.

    “I think I have had a not-bad little month and I am not focusing on it, I am just having fun with it.

    “The VFL boys have won three of their last four so it’s good to contribute to that.

    “I am getting old, I turned 25 in June so to be honest I am not thinking too much about playing footy at AFL level again.

    “But I like to think my performances speak for themselves and if an opportunity came I would take it with both hands.

    “If not it’s not the end of the world and I have other things outside footy I am enjoying too.”
 
I am expecting a big game from Murray against his old Club.

He knows the ground and has had "two average" games to get back up to speed in the AFL.

He must deliver Saturday night.
I'll be honest, I really wish we didn't have to play Murray. His decision making and disposal has been poor and has impacted our effective run out of defence since his inclusion. Injuries though I don't think give us any choice.
 
I'll be honest, I really wish we didn't have to play Murray. His decision making and disposal has been poor and has impacted our effective run out of defence since his inclusion. Injuries though I don't think give us any choice.

Disagree NT......seen enough of him to think he will come good...…..starting this Saturday
 
Disagree NT......seen enough of him to think he will come good...…..starting this Saturday
I hope so, we certainly need the run out of defence but he does need to tidy up his disposal and decision making from last week where he's either putting himself or his team mates under direct pressure resulting in a turn-over.

His DE last week was only just above 50%, granted Tigers are a high pressure team but still it was costly.
 

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Disagree NT......seen enough of him to think he will come good...…..starting this Saturday
Murray will get better in my view.

He’s a baby in AFL terms.
Will Mature and learn.

Plus that speed.
 
Having been at the game last week, Sydney are seriously pathetic at the moment.
Your tall defensive injuries aren't that much of an issue against them as they mostly go small.
Somehow after all your injuries the 22 actually looks solid.
You'll get this pretty cosily i reckon.
Pies by 19.
 
There is a new in could be Fas or Jack? Boys gathered in the middle before training started and gave a big cheer for someone.
 
There is a new in could be Fas or Jack? Boys gathered in the middle before training started and gave a big cheer for someone.
Sounds like it will be a debutant. Could be Madgen or McLarty would be my guess.

Possibly means one of Howe or Mihocek won't get up, or could just be a replacement for Schaz.
 
There is a new in could be Fas or Jack? Boys gathered in the middle before training started and gave a big cheer for someone.
They wouldn't cheer for Fas given he's an established player.

Is anyone not on the track that we would expect to be? I know Mayne went for scans earlier this week but nothing's been said.
 
There is a new in could be Fas or Jack? Boys gathered in the middle before training started and gave a big cheer for someone.

Madgen sounds like he is in......good move Pies.
 
For the VFL watchers how good has Woodward been since his return?

Good Luck to Alex Johnson...…..hope you get a few possessions and your team loses.


Collingwood
Alex Woodward and Alex Johnson among AFL players to pull together after suffering multiple knee injuries
JON RALPH, Herald Sun
August 1, 2018 6:00pm
Subscriber only
  • ALEX Woodward says Alex Johnson is part of an AFL brotherhood of repeat knee victims as his own remarkable recovery gathers speed.

    Woodward and Johnson are part of a “club” of knee victims including Daniel Menzel who have in recent years shared their highs and “dark times”.


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    Alex Woodward has been elite for the Pies’ VFL team. Picture: Michael Klein
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    Woodward injured his knee playing for Box Hill. Picture: Jenny Owens
    Ex-Hawthorn midfielder Woodward’s ACL has crumpled four times and yet he is the ideal example of what Johnson might be able to do this weekend.

    Back playing in the past month for Collingwood’s VFL team, the 25-year-old has been in astonishing form given what he has endured.

    He has averaged 29.8 disposals (ranked elite), 15 contested possessions (elite), 6.5 clearances (elite), 12.3 ground ball gets (elite) and 115 ranking points (elite).

    Now working as a mortgage broker, he will play on Sunday alongside Tyson Goldsack, back in 20 weeks from his own amazing ACL story.

    Woodward told the Herald Sun yesterday he couldn’t be more thrilled for Johnson, adamant he can scale those lofty heights again.

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    Woodward says he has an affinity with returning Swan Alex Johnson. Picture: AAP
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    Johnson has had five knee reconstructions. Picture: Getty Images
    “When he was playing he was a really good player, so I have no doubt he can get back to that as well,’’ he said.

    “Alex and I have kept in touch the last few years, we have quite relatable circumstances and I couldn’t be happier for him.

    “It’s a true testament to the character of him and it’s a really good reward for the effort he has put into his rehab.

    “I suppose we are part of a little bit of a club and it’s good to have sounding board you can relate to and share your experiences with.

    “It’s good to know you are not alone in these circumstances, it’s not easy by any measure and any support like that is just a little thing that helps you through those dark times of rehab but keeps your motivation high.”

    Alex Woodward's 4 VFL games in 2018
    Stat Score Champion Data Rating
    Ranking points 115 Elite
    Disposals 29.8 Elite
    Contested possessions 15.3 Elite
    Uncontested possessions 15 Elite
    Groundball gets 12.3 Elite
    Clearances 6.5 Elite
    Score involvements 5.3 Above average
    St Kilda’s potential fairytale story in Nathan Freeman is far from a certainty this weekend despite being close to his first game in five seasons.

    Jimmy Webster will return from a groin injury, Hunter Clark could return from a rest, and utility Ben Paton has been close to a debut for weeks.

    Freeman didn’t lay a tackle among his 37 disposals and needs to improve that areas, with a VFL bye this weekend making it hard to push his claims.

    Woodward needed three reconstructions at Hawthorn but also played two AFL games and won the 2014 Liston Medal as the VFL’s best player.

    After rupturing his ACL again in May last year playing for Collingwood’s VFL team, he took his time with his latest recovery.

    Instead of easing back into football, he has dominated for a Collingwood VFL side also on a winning run.

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    Cat Daniel Menzel has had his knee repaired four times.
    Notable players who have had multiple knee surgeries
    Player No. of surgeries
    Alex Johnson 5
    Alex Woodward 4
    Daniel Menzel 4
    David Rodan 4
    Clay Smith 3
    David Schwarz 3
    Jon Patton 3
    Max Bailey 3
    Ryan Fitzgerald 3
    Rourke Smith 2
    “Being out of the AFL system forced me to take my time with it, not that I rushed the other ones,” he said.

    “But footy was my job and I was paid to do it. Through my rehab the last year it has been a release from the job I do every day.

    “I think I have had a not-bad little month and I am not focusing on it, I am just having fun with it.

    “The VFL boys have won three of their last four so it’s good to contribute to that.

    “I am getting old, I turned 25 in June so to be honest I am not thinking too much about playing footy at AFL level again.

    “But I like to think my performances speak for themselves and if an opportunity came I would take it with both hands.

    “If not it’s not the end of the world and I have other things outside footy I am enjoying too.”

This post ..... just wow, that’s all!


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Not sure who Rob Waters is. But he’s saying Howe isn’t training. Not the worst thing in the world as many players have done SFA after concussion. But that’s a big out for an important game. The experience of our backline would be quite amazing without him.
 

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