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INS: Prismall, Daniher, Dempsey

OUTS: Monfries, Bellchambers, Lonergan

Bad loss to a good team. Lonergan maybe a bit stiff, but I think it's time to bring Prismall since he has survived a few full VFL games now. Bellchambers down with the knee, so Hooker will have to pinch hit in the ruck, Daniher in to fill the hole down back. Will be a little short down back but shouldn't be too exposed against Adelaide. Monfries had a shocker today, a week off as punishment. By all reports, Dempsey just didn't get up this week, so should be fine this week.
 
Slattery's "hit" was an open hander. And that TWAT S. Johnson milked it for all it was worth (surprise surprise). Shouldn't be any issue.

Johnson is a cheat. However, the punch I saw was into the guts of a bloke lying down. Didn't think it was an open hander either.

And Spike susp??? I didn't really see the collision with the ump but shouldn't it just be a fine? Or has he offended in the past?

Bad record will probably see a reprimand become a 1 week suspension.:(
 
Slattery open hand.. want go for that. He got seriously exposed by Johnson but he's currently in the top 10 footballers in the league.

Wipe this game from the memory as they were always going to be too good. Forget form and only drop/pick guys because of injury.
 

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Am I thinking of the same one?

Slats punched Johnson in the guts while he (Johnson) was down. It was behind play, reckless or even intentional, and low to medium impact.

That's at least a week I think.
 
Am I thinking of the same one?

Slats punched Johnson in the guts while he (Johnson) was down. It was behind play, reckless or even intentional, and low to medium impact.

That's at least a week I think.

I know what you're talking about. I can't remember if it was open/closed fist though.

S.J milked it though.
 
Yeah that's the one. Couldn't make the game today so had the advantage of seeing a couple of replays. Slatts was smart about it and opened his hand at the last moment IIRC which on past form from the MRP can't be called a strike. And the impact was low. Johnson is a cheat.
 
I thought he opened his hand at the last minute and it was more like a karate chop.

Only say it once quickly so I could be wrong. Johnson looked to be seriously faking it though.

Just saw a replay of the incident on the news and it was an open hand.
 
Our last quarter efforts have given me hope for next week though. Hopefully Bellchambers isn't that seriously maybe a week or two
 
:rolleyes: A bad game - against the best team in the league - and Slatts is back to being the scrapgoat...

Slatts is my scapegoat every week, he is just plain not up to it. We would be better off trying some of our midfielders or forwards down there. He is too slow, weak in the air and gives us no run. People on here love getting stuck into Dyson and Jetta, but they create things and have an influence, even if they make errors. Slatts does nothing week in week out, he is a liability.
 
How can the glasses be so rose coloured for a player that barely does the role he is asked to do when he plays on a remotely good player.

Just because Slattery is dropped does not mean he is being made a scapegoat. He is very much a horses for courses type player. Who was a realistic match up today against Geelong?

Hawkins - obviously not a chance (far too small and wouldn't ask it of him)
Mooney - ditto
Johnson - it had had been said many times before the game he couldn't overhead with SJ
Varcoe - wouldn't think Slats could keep up
Byrnes - ditto
Djkurra - ditto (did seem a little slower than Varcoe & Byrnes so maybe)
Rooke - well you are not going to tag a tagger surely
Abblett - can't see Slats staying with him

Chapman - this would have been OK, obviously Chapman didn't play


So who of the list of players that is realistically going to play forward would you play Slattery on with any confidence? Chapman is the only match up IMO and he didn't play.

Slattery is protected because he is hard and gives his all as a defensive player. There are so few decent players that he can do a job on that he ends up being carried more weeks than he is not.

Lets look at the set up next week:

Tippett - obviously not chance (far too small and wouldn't ask it of him)
Walker - can't go with him overhead
Porplyzia - ditto
Thompson - ditto
Goodwin - ditto
Johncock - (hardly ever plays forward these daysayway) can't keep up with him
Dangerfield - ditto

That is it for the dagerous forward options that I would bother closing down. If there is no match up for the shut down player why would he play?
 
Only say it once quickly so I could be wrong. Johnson looked to be seriously faking it though.

Ditto, and I didn't see his hand opening.

Fingers crossed anyway. We don't need more ****ing players out.
 

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How can the glasses be so rose coloured for a player that barely does the role he is asked to do when he plays on a remotely good player.

Just because Slattery is dropped does not mean he is being made a scapegoat. He is very much a horses for courses type player. Who was a realistic match up today against Geelong?

Hawkins - obviously not a chance (far too small and wouldn't ask it of him)
Mooney - ditto
Johnson - it had had been said many times before the game he couldn't overhead with SJ
Varcoe - wouldn't think Slats could keep up
Byrnes - ditto
Djkurra - ditto (did seem a little slower than Varcoe & Byrnes so maybe)
Rooke - well you are not going to tag a tagger surely
Abblett - can't see Slats staying with him

Chapman - this would have been OK, obviously Chapman didn't play


So who of the list of players that is realistically going to play forward would you play Slattery on with any confidence? Chapman is the only match up IMO and he didn't play.

Slattery is protected because he is hard and gives his all as a defensive player. There are so few decent players that he can do a job on that he ends up being carried more weeks than he is not.

Lets look at the set up next week:

Tippett - obviously not chance (far too small and wouldn't ask it of him)
Walker - can't go with him overhead
Porplyzia - ditto
Thompson - ditto
Goodwin - ditto
Johncock - (hardly ever plays forward these daysayway) can't keep up with him
Dangerfield - ditto

That is it for the dagerous forward options that I would bother closing down. If there is no match up for the shut down player why would he play?

I'm sorry, but that's a load of absolute shite.

Slats has a place in our team against any opposition team you care to name.
 
If you are going to have the debate, which is encouraged (I am not being sarcastic), name the players listed that you would gladly send Slattery to.
 
If you are going to have the debate, which is encouraged (I am not being sarcastic), name the players listed that you would gladly send Slattery to.

Adelaide - Chris Knights
Melbourne - Sylvia or Wona (if he's back by then)
Carlton - Betts
Collingwood - Didak
Sydney - Jared Moore
Bulldogs - Johnson
Richmond - Nahas
West Coast - LeCras
Brisbane - Hooper
St Kilda - Milne
Fremantle - Ballantyne
Hawthorn - Rioli
 

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IN: Reimers, Prismall
OUT: Monfries/Jetta, they need a little time off.

Reimers ??
How can you name him as an in ? Played 60% game time last week and from what i was told was only going to play around 70% today. He has had no pre season at all and has only been in full training for about 4 weeks.
Will be well under done at this stage.

As for a few others Laycock still has a sore foot as he pulled up lame after last weeks VFL game so that will leave Hooker to play back up ruck again.
Nash injured a shoulder today, not sure how bad.
Fletcher may be close but is more likely to be the following game.

Daniher and Prismal the likely ins.
 
My thoughts in the brackets

Adelaide - Chris Knights (queries overhead and Knights is in the midfield a lot)
Melbourne - Sylvia or Wona (if he's back by then) (Slatery gets a game)
Carlton - Betts (I would prefer to give this job to Houli to improve his defensive game. Just can't see Slattery being around when it is improtant)
Collingwood - Didak (Slatery gets a game)
Sydney - Jared Moore (Dangerous forward option? You use one spot in the 22 for Moore?)
Bulldogs - Johnson (No, Johnson is too good overhead)
Richmond - Nahas (You must be joking, have you seen how fast this guy is)
West Coast - LeCras (I would give Slattery the job here though overhead might be a problem.)
Brisbane - Hooper (I heisitated long enough when making a decision to concede this one)
St Kilda - Milne (Yes)
Fremantle - Ballantyne (Dangerous forward option? You use one spot in the 22 for this guy?)
Hawthorn - Rioli (This smells to me so no. Again I just don't know how he keeps up in the cricual moments)

When I have concerns about Slattery keeping up it is because of the nature of the goal sneak. They may only ever be in crucial spots on the ground as few as 2 - 5 times a game (e.g. crumbing packs, running back to goal and the like). I don't want Slattery being the one trying to lock down some of those ingigenous boys when it counts most.
 
Am I thinking of the same one?

Slats punched Johnson in the guts while he (Johnson) was down. It was behind play, reckless or even intentional, and low to medium impact.

That's at least a week I think.


Yeah that is the one. It was an open hand amd SJ was playing for a free kick. It wasnt even as bad as Dempseys on Nahas last week (not that Dempseys was bad). I will never watch football again if Slattery goes for that.
 
Reimers ??
How can you name him as an in ? Played 60% game time last week and from what i was told was only going to play around 70% today. He has had no pre season at all and has only been in full training for about 4 weeks.
Will be well under done at this stage.

As for a few others Laycock still has a sore foot as he pulled up lame after last weeks VFL game so that will leave Hooker to play back up ruck again.
Nash injured a shoulder today, not sure how bad.
Fletcher may be close but is more likely to be the following game.

Daniher and Prismal the likely ins.
Bit of a random decision.
Assumed he played well.

Daniher and Prismall are to be considered though
 

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