Changes vs Adelaide.

[The Dustbin]

Out: Jetta, Bellchambers
In: Prismall, Daniher,

 

[Dr Moose]

i would go with
in.daniher,dempsey,prismall,lucas
out. bellchambers,slattery,zarkarakis,lonergan.

the reason why lucas was dropped in the first place was to get confidence back. ...... he will still take the 2nd best defender and it will give neagle the 3rd best. total waste of time him playing at bendigo, if knights refuses to play him next week, then he might aswell retire with a bit of dignity. cause he certaintly isn't receiving any playing for bendigo.

i would like to line up like this next week.

houli,pears,daniher
dempsey,mcphee,stanton
dyson,watson,lovett
davey,lloyd,prismall
monfries,neagle,lucas
ryder,mcveigh,windelich

jetta,skipworth,hooker,hocking

Totally agree here RB. Hope the selection panel share our wisdom

 

[LukeParkerno1]

In: Prismall, Dempsey, Myers, T.Slattery

Outs: Bellchambers (inj.), Skipworth (looked slow for starters), H. Slattery, Jetta

 

[lemon chicken]

How can the glasses be so rose coloured for a player that barely does the role he is asked to do when he plays on a remotely good player.

Just because Slattery is dropped does not mean he is being made a scapegoat. He is very much a horses for courses type player. Who was a realistic match up today against Geelong?

Hawkins - obviously not a chance (far too small and wouldn't ask it of him)
Mooney - ditto
Johnson - it had had been said many times before the game he couldn't overhead with SJ
Varcoe - wouldn't think Slats could keep up
Byrnes - ditto
Djkurra - ditto (did seem a little slower than Varcoe & Byrnes so maybe)
Rooke - well you are not going to tag a tagger surely
Abblett - can't see Slats staying with him

Chapman - this would have been OK, obviously Chapman didn't play


So who of the list of players that is realistically going to play forward would you play Slattery on with any confidence? Chapman is the only match up IMO and he didn't play.

Slattery is protected because he is hard and gives his all as a defensive player. There are so few decent players that he can do a job on that he ends up being carried more weeks than he is not.

Lets look at the set up next week:

Tippett - obviously not chance (far too small and wouldn't ask it of him)
Walker - can't go with him overhead
Porplyzia - ditto
Thompson - ditto
Goodwin - ditto
Johncock - (hardly ever plays forward these daysayway) can't keep up with him
Dangerfield - ditto

That is it for the dagerous forward options that I would bother closing down. If there is no match up for the shut down player why would he play?

Any of the bolded would of been better options. Eddie Betts didnt towel him up with pace so he isnt that slow. I'd be disappointed if any defenders were dropped from todays side. Not much they can do when a majority of the game was played in Geelongs forward half.

 

[AndyLesPaul]

In: Prismall, Dempsey, Myers, T.Slattery

Outs: Bellchambers (inj.), Skipworth (looked slow for starters), H. Slattery, Jetta

Lol. Slattery out.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yes Slattery out, I am sorry but he is average. I am willing to try a few players this week as we will struggle to beat the Crows anyway. Tyson Slattery deserves his chance. Myers can play a similar role to H.Slattery

 

[Daytripper]

I'm not getting too upset over that loss, Geelong is a special mature side who physically took us to task today.

We are one or two big bodies short in the midfield, once watson is nullified we struggle to win any clean ball. We need McVeigh to get match fit and introduce another bigger body to help out watson. Welsh isnt far off and Myers should be given a go also.

Dempsey back next week will help and as i said i'd try Myers in the middle.

Great win by Geelong. Showed us where we need to be at.

Teams do put in bad ones every now and then - and sometimes the opposition are so dominant it can make you look stupid.

Collingwood beat Geelong by 85 points last year so even the best aren't immune to it.

Hopefully the boys will learn from it and get over the loss quickly. We have an important game against Adelaide this week who by all accounts played terrific versus the Hawks today.

Minimal changes at this stage.

In : Dempsey, Fletcher
Out : TBC and maybe Lonergan (love the bloke but his offensive game at the moment is almost non existant and the additions of McVeigh and Skipworth mean we have too many of the same type running around)

 

[Daytripper]

Yes Slattery out, I am sorry but he is average. I am willing to try a few players this week as we will struggle to beat the Crows anyway. Tyson Slattery deserves his chance. Myers can play a similar role to H.Slattery

1. Why does Tyson Slattery deserve a chance ?
Is it because he is under 20.

2. If Myers can play a similar role to Slattery then why has Knights consistently given Henry the much bigger jobs in every game both players have been involved with ?

3. Why do you only make appearances after losses ?

We should beat the Crows in Melbourne too.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Going off that I wouldn't change my opinion. What do you think? Would you be happy with Slattery lining up on either of the three.

I could handle McLeod because he seems to have los some of his pace, wouldn't bother playing a guy solely for the purpose of tagging Vince as a forward and am under the impression that Knights would be too strong in the air.

Vince, Dangerfield and Porplyzia are all strong in the air for their size, however Knights has a massive tank and huge acceleration over the first 20m..

Knights has kicked 9 goals in the past two weeks from his two way running, he works hard up the ground and loses his opponent on the way back and gets on the end of the good work up field

 

[LukeParkerno1]

On today's performance, why is Skipworth an automatic choice, his decision making for a mature recruit was shocking. I fail to see why he should not be seriously looked at being dropped.

 

[Kong]

Yes Slattery out, I am sorry but he is average. I am willing to try a few players this week as we will struggle to beat the Crows anyway. Tyson Slattery deserves his chance. Myers can play a similar role to H.Slattery

Henry Slattery isn't the problem. Our problem is lack of support for him, and the side's inability to 'run both ways'. Too often do we have opposition players running forward unmarked, putting extra pressure on our young defence.

 

[Daytripper]

Henry Slattery isn't the problem. Our problem is lack of support for him, and the side's inability to 'run both ways'. Too often do we have opposition players running forward unmarked, putting extra pressure on our young defence.

Slats led the team with 7 1%'s today too.

 

[Daytripper]

On today's performance, why is Skipworth an automatic choice, his decision making for a mature recruit was shocking. I fail to see why he should not be seriously looked at being dropped.

80% disposal efficiency today.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Henry Slattery isn't the problem. Our problem is lack of support for him, and the side's inability to 'run both ways'. Too often do we have opposition players running forward unmarked, putting extra pressure on our young defence.

Slattery does not help though. We do not have much to lose, lets try Myers in his position.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

80% disposal efficiency today.

Very surprised at that as mist of his kicks hit the ground..mind you an effective kick is just one that makes it to another Essendon player and I hate using that stat at the best of times.

 

[lemon chicken]

On today's performance, why is Skipworth an automatic choice, his decision making for a mature recruit was shocking. I fail to see why he should not be seriously looked at being dropped.

26 possesions and 9 marks in the VFL last week from 60 minutes of game time. You thought Monfries had more influence on the game today than Skipworth?

 

[Daytripper]

Slattery does not help though. We do not have much to lose, lets try Myers in his position.

We've got a hell of a lot to lose.

Get beat by Adelaide this week and making finals becomes more difficult. I know that winning isn't a priority for you but it is for the players and 99% of the supporters out there.

We play our strongest possibkle team and we play to win.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Ins: Fletcher(please god), Daniher, Dempsey, Prismall
Outs: Bellchambers, Skipworth, Monfries, Zaharakis.

Meh.. I was thinking not too many changes but I've got adventurous.

Lonergan stays in as he's a better option than Skippy.

Jetta looked a little more assured this week and gets another run.

Play McPhee forward in place of Monfries and let Fletch, Daniher, Pears do the defensive work with Hooker rotating in the ruck. Daniher and McPhee can swap if we need his size down back.

Lineup:

Slattery Pears Fletcher
Dempsey Daniher/Hooker Houli
Lovett Watson Winderlich
McPhee Lloyd Davey
Jetta Neagle McVeigh
Ryder Hocking Stanton

Dyson, Prismall, Daniher, Lonergan

Probably our best side on paper for a while and we should be able to beat Adelaide at the dome.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

26 possesions and 9 marks in the VFL last week from 60 minutes of game time. You thought Monfries had more influence on the game today than Skipworth?

No, I never said Monfries was good. Although to be fair the ball was barely forward of the centre, so a defensive forward's job (Monfries) becomes redundant. Skipworth was poor today regardless of what spin you put on it. He is a midfielder and the midfield was smashed from pillar to post despite Ryder doing well in the ruck! Someone needs to be accountable for that!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

We've got a hell of a lot to lose.

Get beat by Adelaide this week and making finals becomes more difficult. I know that winning isn't a priority for you but it is for the players and 99% of the supporters out there.

We play our strongest possibkle team and we play to win.

Sometimes playing youth is good, as it makes these esperienced players earn their spot. Plus I cannot see a matchuo for Henry Slattery at the Crows.

 

[George Washington]

For the Slattery Bashers;

he had 7 tackles 17th in the competition this week, and 4th in game only beaten by ablett, djerrkura and bartel. Also had 7 1%'s which was 7th in the comp this week and the most from any player in todays game. So he had 2 goals kicked on him (By Johnson at least), 7 tackles, 7 1%'s, 10 touches at 80% efficiency all the while we were getting absolutely belted.

In defence of Monfries his role is to shut down their rebounding defenders, its a bit tough to do that when we only had 3 inside 50's in the first half for Geelong to rebound from. Though, he does need to work his way into the game a bit more. Looking forward to another Monfries - Hawthorn esque performance next week

 

[lemon chicken]

No, I never said Monfries was good. Although to be fair the ball was barely forward of the centre, so a defensive forward's job (Monfries) becomes redundant. Skipworth was poor today regardless of what spin you put on it. He is a midfielder and the midfield was smashed from pillar to post despite Ryder doing well in the ruck! Someone needs to be accountable for that!

You said he was an automatic selection which he wasnt. He got stacks of the ball at Bendigo and was promoted. I thought his first half was ordinary but he got better as the match went on but he has just missed 4 weeks of football. He's played half forward most of the year.

 

[Kong]

Slattery does not help though. We do not have much to lose, lets try Myers in his position.

See I think we do. I think if we had've been playing Myers in place of Slattery all year, we would've faired worse than we have. That's not even a knock on Myers, but a compliment to Slatts. He still continues to be vastly underrated by many Bombers fans. Houli's shown enough to continue being the other small defender, too. Dempsey playing as our line-breaking, dashing, courageous defender is vital to our team's success. Fletcher running around helping out would help somewhat, too. McPhee was horrible in his place today.

 

[jbct]

See I think we do. I think if we had've been playing Myers in place of Slattery all year, we would've fared worse than we have. That's not even a knock on Myers, but a compliment to Slatts. He still continues to be vastly underrated by many Bombers fans. Houli's shown enough to continue being the other small defender, too. Dempsey playing as our line-breaking, dashing, courageous defender is vital to our team's success. Fletcher running around helping out would help somewhat, too. McPhee was horrible in his place today.

Yeh i have a love hate relationship with Slattery, his the new Wallance/Mark Bolton really

 

[warney7]

It's too easy to swing the axe after losing to the best side of the past 3 seasons.

Make the necessary changes through injury and suspension and then see if the players outside the current 22 have demanded their spot through solid VFL form, or if they're just being brought in because we lost.

So often I see these threads following losses and we're suggesting 3, 4, 5 changes and very few of those are forced.

Keep the faith.