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Prediction Changes vs. Brisbane

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Seeing that key big forwards are as rare as rocking horse shit, its a good idea to at least check him out. Playing the role may also assist his developement as a CHBack. Personally I would like to get a half a season of AFL experience into him, but maybe they don't think hes part of the best side. We are a chance, regardless of the pessimism.


Doogs would only be warming the chair for Lindsay Thomas in 2018. We all know it.
 
Hartlett keeps his spot, Howard not promoted, Young in for presumably Toumpas or Ah Chee. 50/50 chance of a 2nd selection change after LOSING TO ESSENDON BY 70 ****ING POINTS.

Toshiba handi-book here we come.

 

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Give him a chance to shine against a shitty Brisbane and cement his place for the next month rather than bring in a youngster and allow him to gain some confidence against an inexperienced opponent on the big stage.

It's déjà vu all over again.
 
I must say I don't mind stability. I think it's a good idea in most instances, especially when the core group is good or proven.

And I think one place a lot of teams fail is they start to ring big changes when things start going wrong but all they're actually doing is weakening their lineup and causing more pain.

However

Our groups not proven, and has clearly demonstrated over a large subset of years worth of footy that the group at AFL level doesn't have the skill, speed and fundamental ability to take us where we want to go, so whilst stability is good. Being content with just being a finalist is not good enough. We need to keep blooding players and improving this 22 to find a team that might be worthy of sticking with because we don't have it yet.
 
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The question we need answering is... is that rake Pittard or Hartlett?
 
oh boy, Melts will be coming Thursday night like nothing we've seen before, especially if Howard doesn't get a game.
 
FFS Ken... been begging for him in for weeks, now he plays the most 'pick me' game imaginable and you've ruled him out by Tuesday. You just had to go shoot your goddamn mouth off again and take a turd on the weekend 5 days out.

So you took him to China but you won't let him play the Lions?

PLAY DOUGAL HOWARD YOU campaignerS!
 
The footage of HH corralling ATW instead of actually putting some physical pressure and presence on him is one of the softest things I have seen on a footy field. And then that chase. For this act alone I would drop him.

Actually noticed way too much corralling and I think it reflects a negative mindset. I think thats why we looked slow ...guarding space to prevent a player from running off us instead of attacking, pressing the ball carrier. DBJ was another culprit.
 

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Monfries is another that just can't take a trick.

Absolutely. I agree with you. Plus i rate Doogs a little higher irrespective of age.

But Eddy only has this shot and sadly for him it looks like a one and done experiment for him, despite playing really good SANFL footy. I guess you've just got to take your chances when they present and he had a couple earlier in the year, but he needs to keep hammering goals at SANFL level and you never know, another chance may arise but looking more and more unlikely.

Is he capable of playing a high half forward role, like a Tom Lynch?

Thought the same re high hf for Eddy. Maybe not as agile, athletic and aerobically fit as Lynch?
 
Awful. If we seriously bring in Jake Neade while leaving the likes of Howard, Houston, Atley and Palmer in the SANFL I may not even bother going.

We're going to win this game. It's a foregone conclusion. There's no excitement in going to see us win by 10 goals. It won't prove anything we don't already know. The only thing we have to gain from this game is a chance for some of our talented kids to cement a spot in the side and push out some serial non-performers. Jake Neade is not only not that, but he's the exact opposite of that. If you lined up our entire list and asked me to list them in order of how much I'd like to see them in the side this week, Jake Neade comes in second last just ahead of Lobbe.
 
Ken has shown he will 'back the team in'. This is one bad performance in 11, even if we have lost 5 games now. The really frustrating part of that loss is that we don't have the wiggle room to rest players and debut others that we would have had if we had won. But oh well.

So what do we need? Pace, more outside/HFF class and to maybe send a message to some senior players.

Who should be on the line? Hartlett, Broadbent, Westhoff, Ah Chee, Toumpas, Pittard, Impey.

Realistically, the only ones from the above few who might come out and Ah Chee and Toumpas. So how do Howard or Eddy fit in to a line up with Trengove, Dixon, Westhoff and Ryder? Does Young get asked to back it up after one of the best SANFL performances for some time? Who on our list can provide pace and class? Strange to think that we really miss Amon and that the injuries to him, Monfries and AJ along with the decline of White have all managed to come at a terrible time. Do we upset a back six who has been the most frugal in the league? Is it worthwhile getting Atley or Drew to play the role of Ah Chee/S.Gray/Boak/Toumpas when both are midfielders and we have criticised the positioning of these four players because they are midfielders being played out of position?

Let's face it, we drafted hard for midfielders last year and the midfield has decided to stand up. We have been light on for outside class and a true small forward for several years now and these areas remain concerns. Is shuffling S.Gray for Neade going to achieve much? Do we have an outside mid capable of supporting Polec?

I would love for a statement to be made and for Pittard, Hartlett and Westhoff to be playing for the magpies whilst Doogs and some others get a run. Ain't going to happen though!

Yep. Amon or Johnson are both very unlucky to be injured right now.
 
I actually think Ken can coach, it's his selection policy I'm finding intolerable. It's his "faith in the group" that leads to results like the Essendon game, players safe in the knowledge that being a part of the inner circle guarantees them certain entitlements the outer circle guys don't get. Mark Williams created a culture like this and it tore the list apart over time.
His stubbornness when it comes to selection and addressing problems like our forward 50 structure could well cost this club a premiership. This list has so much potential, but I don't think Ken can get the best out of them any more.
 
Actually noticed way too much corralling and I think it reflects a negative mindset. I think thats why we looked slow ...guarding space to prevent a player from running off us instead of attacking, pressing the ball carrier. DBJ was another culprit.
I think HH is afraid to go hard at tackles for fear his shoulder wont stand up to a full extension tackle, in the same way that he doesn't ever hit a full tilt sprint because he's afraid of pinging his hammy.

I'm convinced a few of our boys play within themselves, never redlining, because they want to stay fit and keep racking up games. Pittard & HH are 2 in that boat.
 
I actually think Ken can coach, it's his selection policy I'm finding intolerable. It's his "faith in the group" that leads to results like the Essendon game, players safe in the knowledge that being a part of the inner circle guarantees them certain entitlements the outer circle guys don't get. Mark Williams created a culture like this and it tore the list apart over time.
Choco went to the extremes of giving individuals absolute faith in their ability.
 

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Such a great opportunity for Doogs. After kicking 8 goals, he don't need to back it up. The potential reward is certainly greater than the perceived risk.
Meet us halfway Ken...give us Doogs and Atley and we can overlook Youngs inclusion as well. He could be the proverbial set of steak knives.
 
Get ****ed Ken
Just **** off.
Stop handcuffing young KPF opportunities to give Jake Neade his 46th game! 46th!
 
Its almost got to the point of who cares.

Ken has his favourites and gold pass boys who he trusts and he doesn't want to give games to his non favourites when we play a side we should beat easily, to get game the next week, so his favourites get picked again and play well and get more games.

I wont melt, but I will be disappointed if we don't cut out some of the dead wood and bring in some young blokes rather the same old same old.
 

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