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Missing an easy set shot (Cotchin) is just as bad if not worse than conceding a goal due to a turnover.

Everyone on this board is just going to have to accept that these players will make mistakes that will cost goals.

I went to the game and watched the replay late.

I actually think that everyone was quite even across the ground. McGuane and Rance had an average first half but were great in the second. Considering how much the ball comes in they do quite well. What we lack is a really good small defender (Farmer?) who can take the opposition small forward. If Thomas had kicked straight North would have won. Milne has proved the difference against St Kilda.

And for chrissake we need to play Deledio in the middle.
 

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jackson is gone, so tuck to start on the ground. connors in as sub, and hopefully played on the wing when he is subbed in.


nason needs to do something to avoid being dropped, has never held a tackle in his life. does not get involved in the play enough, (turning his back instead of being an option) needs more games at vfl level running through the middle picking up possesions IMO.
no need for him as a crummer.

with King doing the job expertly, white and nahas rotating through the fwd/mid.
 
Fair enough too, they looked pretty good the other night against the aint quites. They used speed to take it right up to them so we need to counter that with more speed.

Out - Jackson
In - Webberley (sub)

Look.... at the risk of agreeing with the Prowler.... I have to agree. We are no more certain against Brissy than any other team. Don't get carried away...we were close to ordinary the other night and if we don't come to play in the first qtr we could be 5 or 6 down and goodnight barbara....

Geez Prowler even agree with your out.... Unlucky though... vicious headbutt to the elbow :cool:

One more for me though.... Edwards = bye bye... Webberley in for Titch and Morton for Jackson...
 
For mine:

Out: Vickery Jackson(susp)
In: Post Webberley

B: Newman McGuane Grimes
HB: Deledio Rance Houli
C: Conca Cotchin Grigg
HF: King Post Martin
F: Nahas Riewoldt Miller
R: Graham Tuck Foley
I/C: Webberley White Edwards
Sub: Nason
 
For mine:

Out: Vickery Jackson(susp)
In: Post Webberley

B: Newman McGuane Grimes
HB: Deledio Rance Houli
C: Conca Cotchin Grigg
HF: King Post Martin
F: Nahas Riewoldt Miller
R: Graham Tuck Foley
I/C: Webberley White Edwards
Sub: Nason

If Jackson somehow beats the MRP then Jackson stays in, Tuck goes to the bench & Cotchin moves to ruck rover.
Yep, that would be my side as well. Initially I thought Edwards game was worse than it it actually was and so he holds his spot.
 
I have asked this question before but know one seems to know. Why did Webbs pull out of the Coburg game just before the bounce. injured maybe?
I'd suggest he was either a late withdrawal cause of illness or was yanked in case we needed extra cover in our game.
 
B - Newman, Rance, Grimes
HB - Deledio, McGuane, Batchelor
C - Conca, Tuck, Grigg
HF - Houli, Post, White
F - King, Riewoldt, Miller
Foll - Graham, Cotchin, Martin
Inter - Nahas, Edwards, Houli
Sub - Nason

Why wouldn't Batch come straight in? Is his injury going to keep him out for another week? Also I'm loathe to drop Vickery for Post considering Brisbane will have Clarke, Leuenberger and McCauley... But Vicks needs to dominate in VFL for a week or two, I'm confident that he will as well. Post deserves another shot at CHF.
 

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Don't mess with a winning team.
I wouldn't make any unforced changes, however if Jackson gets weeks then Tuck should come in and we can move Miller to the sub.

Just in case you have been asleep for a few days Tucky is already in. And Miller would be a pointless sub. He is there as a big body companion for Jack. Nason would be an ideal sub.
 
What does Nason bring to the team? Right now he is too small, and i'd say a touch scared of the contest. We can't afford to carry a fringe player. Morton and Collins are better skilled and more damaging with the ball. I feel a bit sorry for Nason getting dumped back out of the team but he just isn't good enough right now.

Everyone wants McGuane and Graham banished because they are not stars, but they never will be and there is no shame in that. Graham is our best option in the ruck. We can only experiment with Browne or Derrickx if Graham gets injured or if we are playing a team with diabolical ruck stocks. Likewise McGuane. It seems he is ahead of Thursfield in the eyes of the coaching staff, and Moore is not ready yet.

I don't know what to make of Edwards. He looks flashy and gets the ball but doesn't have the poise that our better onballers have. Often he's forced to make a rushed disposal that goes anywhere. We may well be playing him out of position.
 
What does Nason bring to the team? Right now he is too small, and i'd say a touch scared of the contest. We can't afford to carry a fringe player. Morton and Collins are better skilled and more damaging with the ball. I feel a bit sorry for Nason getting dumped back out of the team but he just isn't good enough right now.

Everyone wants McGuane and Graham banished because they are not stars, but they never will be and there is no shame in that. Graham is our best option in the ruck. We can only experiment with Browne or Derrickx if Graham gets injured or if we are playing a team with diabolical ruck stocks. Likewise McGuane. It seems he is ahead of Thursfield in the eyes of the coaching staff, and Moore is not ready yet.

I don't know what to make of Edwards. He looks flashy and gets the ball but doesn't have the poise that our better onballers have. Often he's forced to make a rushed disposal that goes anywhere. We may well be playing him out of position.

:)Dan, doubt you'll be seeing Collins figure much at Carlton from here on in. Papers stamped!
 
jackson is gone, so tuck to start on the ground. connors in as sub, and hopefully played on the wing when he is subbed in.


nason needs to do something to avoid being dropped, has never held a tackle in his life. does not get involved in the play enough, (turning his back instead of being an option) needs more games at vfl level running through the middle picking up possesions IMO.
no need for him as a crummer.

with King doing the job expertly, white and nahas rotating through the fwd/mid.

connors is shit, id rather have webberley come in

yep nason got rag-ddolled last night
 

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Ludicrous if match committee makes any other change other than Jackson if suspended. The team is coming together, playing good footy, so why reward them with dropping players because NO ONE is in that bad of form.

If Jacko is out, Batchelor in.
This...Batchelor being a surprise late out, means if fit he comes in. If he is injured then Webberley to come in
 
Bombers went in with 3 rucks, and i read today Longmire is going to go into the Carlton game with 3 rucks. 2 teams doesnt make a trend, but its an interesting reversal of the initial sub/interchange teams. I wonder if Vik does have a spell, if Browne will come in as a forward ruck to help out Gus because McCauley, Clark and Leuenberger will be a handful.
 
Jackson and Nason out. Batchelor and Connors in.

Tuck in the middle for Jackson and Connors/White sub?
white will not be the syb, has been playign his role well. connors was crap and injured himself in the coburg game. tuck will be starting 21, but cant tag like jackson does. so really who gets the tagging job?
 
i dont think any one needs to get tagged this week, Power has been playing in the forward line, Black while still classy is not what he once was, while Rockcliff and Rich dont really deserve tags either i would be more than happy to go head to head with Cotchin Martin Tuck/Foley. Maybe even give Delids the head to head job on black.

Webberly would be an option to come in also and would make a good sub.
White def not sub for 2 reasons.
1. he has done his job (and more) this season and everyone should be more than happy with his output.
2. the sub IMO needs to be someone who attracts the ball so they can use their fresher legs and speed to hurt the opposition, a player of the likes of white/nason/helbig etc
do not attract the ball enough and come on fresh and get something like 3 possesions in the last qtr.








while i will agree that connors has been $hit this year, i still believe he is def in your best 22 i just think he has been played out of position, in the backline with the likes of newman/delid/edwards makes him actualy defend a decent foward and i think his kicking is 80% perfect 20% shittest kicks ever. their is no middle ground.

in the last line of defence these 80% do not help that much but the 20% kill you, i think him playing on a weaker defender he did not have to focus on and control the ball from the high half back line or just playing the wing would suit his game style the best,
in the last half of last year he was probbaly in your top 10 players and his game against freo last year where he was allowed to do this was a great game, and he was probably the sole reason you stole that one (with the exception of J.roo)


any news on how far Cal Moore is from returning?*



* i attend every rich match with my Gf who is a die hard supporter, i support ess so do not keep up to date on all news from your club, but feel that i can contribute in on field disccusions with you guys so hopefully that is cool even though i am a rival team supporter.
 

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