Strategy Changes vs Bulldogs

[kane249]

Outs: Nelson, Waterman
Ins: Jetta, Cameron

Would like to see us go a bit smaller, a home game in the indigenous jumper would make a great stage to debut Cameron as well

 

[new breed]

Thought Waterman was pretty okay playing the lead up forward Lecras role .

 

[Godfather32]

Thought Waterman was pretty okay playing the lead up forward Lecras role .

He took 4 marks for the game, 3 of which were in the 3rd quarter inside the defensive 50. Would have thought a lead up forward would want to take a few more marks around the forward line or at least the wing than that.
Not that I think Waterman is a bad player, he's just not as good as the other young tall forwards we've got so I really don't see a role for him. Would rather have Venables in, at least he provides some pressure.

 

[Cuzz09]

70% chance of rain.

We should be wet weather experts by the time Winters over.



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[new breed]

Double header Beagles v Claremont at the early time 11.30 am

 

[beatlesmith]

I'd like to see Cameron get a go in place of Waterman. It would give us an opportunity to assess an out-of-form Petch and Cameron before Venables comes back.

I don't mind Waterman, but he isn't leading and marking up the wing like he should be. He's good at that, but he's very average in every other respect.

OUT: Nelson, Waterman
IN: Jetta, Cameron

 

[squashface]

I feel like Waterman is only going to excel when he is the legitimate 3rd tall which isn’t going to happen while Allen is in the side.

Once NN is back, I think we will see Allen out of the side and Waterman will be playing the footy that he was early last year.

 

[LittleGreekGod]

He had a lot of ‘almost’ moments last night, so yeah he stays in for mine

Yeh. Agree Petch along with Oallen are the future of the club. We need to get games into them before finals.
If it means that we carry them for a few games, then so be it. It's a good investment.

 

[avishka5]

People saying Cameron isn’t physically ready need to watch his brother from 2014. Charlie was extremely skinny as well when he came on to the scene.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

He took 4 marks for the game, 3 of which were in the 3rd quarter inside the defensive 50. Would have thought a lead up forward would want to take a few more marks around the forward line or at least the wing than that.
Not that I think Waterman is a bad player, he's just not as good as the other young tall forwards we've got so I really don't see a role for him. Would rather have Venables in, at least he provides some pressure.

If we didn’t have a hole in the ruck Waterman ought to be playing ahead of Allen. Both from a needs and production perspective.

Connection from back to forward, relief mark from hard running is what is really needed. Allen’s uncontested game this year at AFL has gone missing that’s why I would let him mature in the WAFL while Kennedy and Darling are both fit.






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[Godfather32]

If we didn’t have a hole in the ruck Waterman ought to be playing ahead of Allen. Both from a needs and production perspective.

Connection from back to forward, relief mark from hard running is what is really needed. Allen’s uncontested game this year at AFL has gone missing that’s why I would let him mature in the WAFL while Kennedy and Darling are both fit.






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Does Waterman get that go ahead goal at the end of the game yesterday though? I don't think so, Allen is too good to leave in the WAFL and Waterman is too average to be playing ahead of him. Hard to tell what affect Allen playing ruck has had on his uncontested game as well.

 

[Doughboy]

I would think Nelson for Jetta would be the only change

Putting a forward come mid (Cripps) seemed to help against the crows

Waterman can be another target forward if there is 5 v 6 in the forward line during normal play

 

[Max zero]

Allen and Petruccelle are going no where. Both averaging more then a goal a game, having an impact and not being overawed in their first seasons.

Unless they start dropping off they will learn a lot more playing AFL then WAFL.

 

[FKASC]

I really hope Jarrad Cameron turns out as good as Charles

 

[kerr87]

I really hope Jarrad Cameron turns out as good as Charles

Will be even better.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Does Waterman get that go ahead goal at the end of the game yesterday though? I don't think so, Allen is too good to leave in the WAFL and Waterman is too average to be playing ahead of him. Hard to tell what affect Allen playing ruck has had on his uncontested game as well.

A useless hypothetical. A player does one thing in one play and doesn't do another thing in a different play. What Allen hasn't been doing is leading and taking marks. If your tall players don't take marks they remain a liability against the alternative.

Waterman is a better footballer than he was last year, in spite of some niggling injuries he's improved his tank and his WAFL performances have proven he's a level above. Unfortunately, those niggles and being screwed around with selection means he's lacked a little bit of flow and consistency. In spite of this his production is similar to Allens if a little down on last year.

Talk of Allen as the better player is neither here nor there at the moment he's surplus to our needs. He's got lucky when Schofield got injured before round 9 and he got lucky again when Hickey went down a second time.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

The calls to bring in Cameron are insane. We can't possibly play with Cripps, Rioli, Ryan, Petch & Cameron in the same side?

 

[tigger_ferret]

whacky opinion but should we move Duggan into a wing/defensive mid role (replacing hutch) and bring Rotham in?

Think Duggan has the tank and defensive nous to play as a tagger and the role Masten did.

I really like Duggar’s toughness and ability to hit packs hard and either win a 50/50 or absolutely kill the contest.



I think we would lose this if he was tagging or on the wing as a link up type player.

Having said that could Duggan turn into the next Yeo, he has taken his game up a level and hopefully learnt a lot as a back man with the play in front of him, it would be good to try him in the middle again and see what he has learnt.

 

[Godfather32]

A useless hypothetical. A player does one thing in one play and doesn't do another thing in a different play. What Allen hasn't been doing is leading and taking marks. If your tall players don't take marks they remain a liability against the alternative.

Waterman is a better footballer than he was last year, in spite of some niggling injuries he's improved his tank and his WAFL performances have proven he's a level above. Unfortunately, those niggles and being screwed around with selection means he's lacked a little bit of flow and consistency. In spite of this his production is similar to Allens if a little down on last year.

Talk of Allen as the better player is neither here nor there at the moment he's surplus to our needs. He's got lucky when Schofield got injured before round 9 and he got lucky again when Hickey went down a second time.

How do you know what role Allen is being asked to play though? He's hasn't been playing much as a lead-up forward high up the ground most of the time so of course he's not going to be taking uncontested marks around the ground. Waterman has done nothing in the AFL this year to stake his claim in the side, he was virtually unsighted most of yesterdays game apart from a few inconsequential marks and bombs down the line late in the third.

 

[TOA.]

The calls to bring in Cameron are insane. We can't possibly play with Cripps, Rioli, Ryan, Petch & Cameron in the same side?

Generally agree, needs to be either Petch or Cameron in that set up

 

[InTheWings]

Jetta in for Nelson
Venebles in for Waterman
Ah Chee in for Hutchings unless he has a shutdown role.


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[Cuzz09]

Duggan is a beast. Must stay in.

Oscar Allen was great I thought. Got into dangerous positions and couldve had a couple more goals.

Thinking:

In: Jetta
Out: Waterman/Nelson

Give Nelson/Waterman another crack.

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[hungrytiger]

Wow best changes thread ever. I cant believe it....Some of the best.

No More Masten ever....Waterman is not better than anyone out there, hes got 1 role he can only really play. 1 dimensial... Lets get Cameron in and push Petrol to the wing Yeeeoooww TWITB...

Nic Nat is back baby.. which doesnt bode well for Oscar but he knows his role going fwd.



Hurn Scho Shep
Duggo Gov Jetta
Petrol Yeo Gaff
Cameron JD Rioli
Ryan JK Cripps

Vardy/Hickey Shuey Sheed

NN Redden Hutch Cole

I like this side

 

[Cuzz09]

70% chance of rain.

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Oooh now 24 degrees and 30% rain.

Me likey.

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[Obeanie1]

Forgot he played. Nelson it is then.

I hope they figure what to do with Waterman as well.

Waterman was ok, played that link up hffer. Gave Darling and JK a rotation option.

I think Waterman is a better option than Venables.