Preview Changes vs Carlton

[theGav56]

Agree. Would love Morabito, Mundy, Bennell apeness, Blakely, Hughes to all play but they aren't fit.

Surely the club needs to get a few games into Uber and Collins this season too.

If the season has slipped away in terms of realistic finals/premiership contention then my priorities would be;
* explore tall forward options, especially Uberganger, Apeness and Collins. Get Blakely into the midfield and release Fyfe forward a little more. Persist with Mayne and Crozier aiming for a decision end of year.
* regenerate our transition game based on what was begun in the preseason. Bring in Tucker and Bennell asap as well as Morabito. Power running and skills from defense and through the midfield.
* stabilise our backline by locking in A Pearce as a new cornerstone, and keep development of the idea of a more aggressive rebound style by selecting players with better skills and smarts. Personally I am a fan of Hill and Morabito working out of this part of the ground.

Most of these players have enough development to aquit themselves well.

 

[Belnakor]

don't know how we can play Tabs again after that effort.

the kick into the forward line when got the free kick for out on the full just summed him up for me.

 

[theGav56]

No, trying to finish last is a dangerous game, it immediately infects the club's culture. Besides, if there is still a chance to appear in the finals I rather take that (even if we are out first round) than forego the experience (for players and fans). Do you think Port enjoyed their season last year, or that it helped them in any way?

Tanking for draft pics is a loosing game in the AFL, the draft is a crapshot where essentially noone has any clue what they will get (complete busts at No 1, superstars at numbers 15+)

Within the top 10 it is actually pretty good. Declines after that.

 

[theGav56]

don't know how we can play Tabs again after that effort.

the kick into the forward line when got the free kick for out on the full just summed him up for me.

That was so ooooh bad. Did he think he could go the distance? I am all for players having a crack but it needs to be justified.

 

[george2]

I didn't say I wanted to bring them all into the team. I just question the idea that they aren't fit to be selected. Players always talk about how the majority of their fitness for the season comes from the early hard months when they do most of the endurance component. All these guys did the early work and Morabito had an absolutely stand out pre-season.
Guys like Fyfe, Hill and Ballantyne always come straight back into the first team after weeks out, players don't need to go back to Peel unless its to get touch. All the 3 we are discussing were in excellent touch when they were injured.
FWIW I wouldn't select all of them but I'd bring at least one in each week if they are good to go. They all have something to offer above what we are getting from the incumbents.

Your talking about proven best 22 players over a sustained period of time here and your comparing them to players that have played 1 game each and a player that has serious question marks over his body, this is literally comparing boys to men.

I really cant see any of those three getting a game this week considering they are all coming back from injuries. If Peel had have played a game on the weekend and Mora had put in another performance like his first game then yeah he would definitely be a chance, a slim one but still a chance. I think Tucker and Grey are probably the best bet of the younger guys coming in but even then Tucker hasn't played a game for 2 weeks now so he will probably be told to go back to WAFL and get some touch back.

Make no mistake there is a big big difference between pre season fitness and match fitness and then there is also a big big difference between running a game out at WAFL level and running a game out at AFL level, that has been even more increased now due to the interchange cap. I agree with you though I would love to see some of these guys get a game but I just don't think that will happen this week considering injuries and the Peel bye.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Why aren't Morabito, Blakely and Hughes fit?
They all had good pre-seasons and were going well when injured. If they are passed fit to return to main training group they are fit for selection.

Those three players have only just returned to the main training group.
Blakely having recovered from a broken toe that has kept him out of the Peel side and likewise with Hughes who tweaked a hammy in the lead up to the wc game.
Ross hinted Hughes was under consideration to play in that game.
Mora is an obvious story and I reckon perhaps three or four strong performances at Peel and we'll be playing him. If Mora hadn't strained a hammy late February He would have been a real chance of selection for Rd1.
He's had an outstanding pre-season but injuries happen.

 

[meima]

Those three players have on,y just returned to the main training group.
Blakely having recovered from a broken toe tha has kept him ou of the Peel side and likewise with Hughes who tweaked a hammy in the lead up to the wc game.
Ross hinted Hughes was under consideration to play in that game.
Mora is an obvious story and I reckon perhaps three or four strong performances at Peel and we'll be playing him.

The only thing I really dislike is it turn out like last season where blakely under consideration 2 game as emergencies and go back to peel and get another injuries. I really hope nothing happen to Tucker after two match as emergencies and not playing .

 

[Fred Ziffel]

The only thing I really dislike is it turn out like last season where blakely under consideration 2 game as emergencies and go back to peel and get another injuries. I really hope nothing happen to Tucker after two match as emergencies and not playing .

If it had not been North this week with their talls Tucker would probably have played.
He's a good chance for the Carlton game.
Last year was entirely different circumstances . Indications are Ross is going to play plenty of young guys this year.
It looks like it'll be gradual with perhaps one new player each week.

 

[meima]

If it had not been North this week with their talls Tucker would probably have played.
He's a good chance for the Carlton game.
Last year was entirely different circumstances . Indications are Ross is going to play plenty of young guys this year.
It looks like it'll be gradual with perhaps one new player each week.

 

[george2]

If it had not been North this week with their talls Tucker would probably have played.
He's a good chance for the Carlton game.
Last year was entirely different circumstances . Indications are Ross is going to play plenty of young guys this year.
It looks like it'll be gradual with perhaps one new player each week.

I agree there Fred! our average age of the teams sent out each week will start dropping I think and Peels will start rising

 

[StingBitten]

Was pretty chuffed for my buddy kicking that goal and the team reaction, but outside of that it was fairly same/same. He had the ball a few times with more than enough time to make a decision and rarely made the best call.

Still think a month or so in the WAFL will do wonders for him.

 

[beetz]

don't know how we can play Tabs again after that effort.

the kick into the forward line when got the free kick for out on the full just summed him up for me.

Yep, this did it for me too. There was a lot of dumb football during the game by a few players but that stood out as the dumbest.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Was pretty chuffed for my buddy kicking that goal and the team reaction, but outside of that it was fairly same/same. He had the ball a few times with more than enough time to make a decision and rarely made the best call.

Still think a month or so in the WAFL will do wonders for him.

I think what we are seeing from Chris now is as good as it is going to get.
Ross has probably had private conversations with Chopper and others and stated the game and the team is evolving and the stage of being dropped is sooner than later.
It's an inconvenient truth about football, nothing lasts forever.

 

[PapaJ]

Was pretty chuffed for my buddy kicking that goal and the team reaction, but outside of that it was fairly same/same. He had the ball a few times with more than enough time to make a decision and rarely made the best call.

Still think a month or so in the WAFL will do wonders for him.

Being a bit hard on your buddy I reckon. I posted elsewhere that if he gave that sort of game week in and out, that we could live with it. It's not sensational, but at a base level it's adequate. What we need from him is to convert the 2-3 genuine chances he gets a game to 1-2 goals with the odd bag of a few more when the ball bounces his way - that's the only thing missing for mine. The contested play, defensive pressure and outlet play was all OK and mostly has been. Ideally he'd be a better contested mark, but he's not, so that's an issue, but he competes in the air hard enough so I'll live with that. Given our lack of options right now, he produces like he did on Sunday as a minimum and I'm OK with it.

 

[Banker]

I think what we are seeing from Chris now is as good as it is going to get.
Ross has probably had private conversations with Chopper and others and stated the game and the team is evolving and the stage of being dropped is sooner than later.
It's an inconvenient truth about football, nothing lasts forever.

Ross has favourites and Mayne seems to fall into this category.

He hasn't wrote off the season either and so I don't we will see him dropped any time soon.

 

[Belnakor]

Yep, this did it for me too. There was a lot of dumb football during the game by a few players but that stood out as the dumbest.

was something you'd see in a bottom team who have no systems.

if he thought he could kick it, he is the only man in the league who can kick a goal from the wing.

 

[Carnthedockers]

I think Ethan Hughes will play, if he is over his string.

 

[salim malik]

was something you'd see in a bottom team who have no systems.

if he thought he could kick it, he is the only man in the league who can kick a goal from the wing.

He seems to be following instructions to play on to the nth degree to the detriment of his football instincts.

 

[rgauci]

I'd play Clancee Pearce in Subans spot. I actually rate him in the midfield. That interchanging with the HBF was where he played in 2013. Mind you, I'd play anyone ahead of Suban right now.

 

[Lach72]

Gawd

 

[salim malik]

I'd play Clancee Pearce in Subans spot. I actually rate him in the midfield. That interchanging with the HBF was where he played in 2013. Mind you, I'd play anyone ahead of Suban right now.

I've been a supporter of Clancee but I think the older bottom of the best 25 have had their day. Time for Hughes, Grey, Blakley to show what they can do.

 

[meima]

I've been a supporter of Clancee but I think the older bottom of the best 25 have had their day. Time for Hughes, Grey, Blakley to show what they can do.

A high five from me

 

[blue shark]

Genuine question when opposition see our backline, and have three power forwards, they must think they are good chance
to dominate, do you agree?
Spurr is a good contested marking player on small, medium players, Ibbo, Johnson good intercept marks, Dawson just ok, Pearce will be elite, Sherro,
Sutcliffe mids.
Would rather try Sherro, Sutcliffe, or Ibbotson midfield, dropped, and a proper defender played.
The opposition can use a forward/ruck as the third Tall, and we are too short get out muscled. looks even worse when we play only one ruck.
We either use A pearce to pinch hit, or Tabs if he gets a game.

 

[Scham]

Genuine question when opposition see our backline, and have three power forwards, they must think they are good chance
to dominate, do you agree?
Spurr is a good contested marking player on small, medium players, Ibbo, Johnson good intercept marks, Dawson just ok, Pearce will be elite, Sherro,
Sutcliffe mids.
Would rather try Sherro, Sutcliffe, or Ibbotson midfield, dropped, and a proper defender played.
The opposition can use a forward/ruck as the third Tall, and we are too short get out muscled. looks even worse when we play only one ruck.
We either use A pearce to pinch hit, or Tabs if he gets a game.

Ibbo isn't a
midfielder and Sheridan struggled to get good numbers as a mid in
the wafl.
If the opposition are playing 3 power forwards they should feel nervous but doubt
they do. Sutty, Ibbo and Jonno should make their opponents accountable by
running off and creating but due to our poor skills and Ibbo's stifling decision making, this isn't working.
Dawson will always cause some headaches for his opponent but at the same time he'll always
give opportunities via the odd brain snap, so to answer your
question, yes I think
they would be confident against us.

 

[DudleyDocker]

Probably not the right place for this, but if anyone has two tickets for the Carlton game and wants to sell them can you please PM me? The only tickets I can see on Ticketmaster are rubbish...