Prediction Changes Vs Collingwood round 4

[kane249]

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

 

[Astro7]

 

[The_Gambler]

Collingwood playing well, but on paper that’s a team we should match up well with, especially with JDG out. Average back line short of height and their pace is not so much around the ball.

If we aren’t competitive its a clear sign the team has given up and/or Simpson has lost the players

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If we aren’t competitive its a clear sign the team has given up and/or Simpson has lost the players

Broken record.

Another peanut that insisted Simpson was making excuses ahead of the North Melbourne game but couldn’t point to a single one. Except the ones he just full-on made up.

 

[Art OF war]

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[The_Gambler]

Broken record.

Another peanut that insisted Simpson was making excuses ahead of the North Melbourne game but couldn’t point to a single one. Except the ones he just full-on made up.

Every week he has said we don’t have synergy. That’s obviously his buzz word. Before and after the last game. Guess what, when the players don’t play for you or the club, they don’t have synergy. But yes let’s blame COVID for everything wrong with the club, makes the fix a lot easy

 

[The Passenger]

Not really fussed about results if we can show some faster ball movement like we did - in parts - during the Gold Coast game.

I didn't see the North game but we reverted back to the chip and mark slow dance for huge chunks of the Fremantle game. Aside from being worked out by every team in the competition, it's actually harder to pull off with this amount of disruption to the 22.

Our pressure and tackling was much better against the Dockers. Put the two together and there's something to work with and who knows... maybe a few results will drop our way.

Simmo has paid back the club and it's supporters with a flag but if he wants to still be at the helm this time next year he's going to have to show a willingness to evolve.

 

[The Passenger]

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Here's the stupid thing about fans saying 2018 was all Mitchell right...

Even it were the case they are completely oblivious as to Mitchell's motivations to move 1000's of kilometres - uprooting his young family from it's home base - to come to a club and part of the country that (as far as I know) he's got zero connection to. The only carrot he had was the chance to be an assistant coach under Adam Simpson who as we all know (we do remember right?) was an assistant at Hawthorn from 2010 to 2013... Given Sam Mitchell would have had the pick of ANY club in the competition to start his assistant coaching career at, do you not think he makes the move to WA only if he seriously rates the bloke he is about to work under?

Or do they think Mitchell came to West Coast because Matt Spangher got him blind and gave him the hard sell?

 

[timeforanother22]

How is it the coach's fault that he's a spud?

Watched him run around aimlessly for most of the match, doing SFA. After, apparently, having a "big" preseason.

What's his excuse?

Watched Petch a lot at the game. His problem is he was running up and down the middle of the ground.
WTF? Never going to get a kick in the middle, everyone knows West Coast go around the boundary. Every. Single. Time.

Maybe if we still had Jetta to unleash a perfect kick into the guts he might get a look in?

 

[javaguice]

Did ainsworth really get selected before schoey and jetts for a final?

 

[Astro7]

I understand all the frustration about, but many of the complaints just feed back to the fact that we have rolling injuries and Covid related problems with players and that we have lots of new faces out there before their time, let alone players from the Wafl, and those that have never played at AFL level before. Even players returning from Covid take time to recover, it's an unknown.

In a normal season with a fit best 22 list, many of these players wouldn't be seen in a game this year, or maybe late in the season for some players (depending on their improvement or our injury list). Even if we had our best 22 playing next week or the week after, there wouldn't be sufficient synergy with each other or the game plan, and some are still Covid recovering.

For critics of the game plan or lack of, that can't be judged fair and square because it doesn't have a chance to breathe or come alive, due to the lack of connectivity amongst players and the revolving door of ins and outs. Some players have never met or barely know each other or trained briefly -what can you expect from that? What we have each week is a patched together rabble playing their hearts out for one quarter, before the obvious cracks appear and it turns into shambolic football. It's no ones fault, it's hard to blame anyone given the circumstances, when the whole club is flying by the seat of their pants.

Sure, the game plan around the backline is looking like groundhog day. Under normal circumstances it would be getting tuned and tweaked already, but it's just currently under immense pressure with the backline struggling to maintain possession of the ball, let alone be creative or adhere to a new game plan (without the best 22 to help prop it up). It's not pretty either way.

The midfield has been skeletal, how can it be judged. The coaches are generally just getting names out there to fill spots and keep the AFL juggernaut rolling.

There are coaching moments that are baffling, like taking Nelson off Brayshaw. People want the coach to take risks, so he gambles on being more attacking in next quarter, releases Nelson from a negative role and it...fails. But he took a risk, we saw the attacking start of the 2nd half, there was a flutter of hope, the crowd came alive, but they couldn't maintain it due to lack of experience, skills, speed, being gassed? It was ugly. We were losing regardless. We just lost by more.

I reckon there are some positives in amongst all this chaos, you just have to let go of the expectations of a normal season. Depending on our injury list and Covid, the 2nd half of season might have a silver lining. But obviously we have to suspend thoughts of points, ladder position, finals and flags. We might get to see a full team building and playing better football as the season progresses, or the wheels might fall off like 2021 and we collapse in a heap, start a rebuild and get some good draft picks - which is a silver lining in itself, albeit long term....

It's just really hard to judge the coaching and game plan at present, will get a better idea when we have approximately our best 22 out there, or close to it...and if it's the same old groundhog dirge, with little improvement from our new midfield coaches or head coach and senior players, then open the floodgates of change I say...bring in the big broom and sweep out the mud and crud!

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Every week he has said we don’t have synergy. That’s obviously his buzz word. Before and after the last game. Guess what, when the players don’t play for you or the club, they don’t have synergy. But yes let’s blame COVID for everything wrong with the club, makes the fix a lot easy

I still don’t see where that’s making excuses ahead of the North game, but it’s the closest you’ve come to even trying to justify your statement. I guess that’s progress.

We’ve made 27 changes to the side between round 1 and round 3. If ever a coach has been able to say the side doesn’t have synergy, that’s it.

 

[Mikevk123]

B Hurn Barrass Witherdan
HB Duggan McGovern Rotham
C Gaff Redden Naish
HF Ryan Darling Petrucclle
F Rioli Kennedy Waterman
FOLL: Naitanui Jones L.Edwards
INTER: B.Williams, SPS, Nelson, Foley

 

[WCErevival]

B Hurn Barrass Witherdan
HB Duggan McGovern Rotham
C Gaff Redden Naish
HF Ryan Darling Petrucclle
F Rioli Kennedy Waterman
FOLL: Naitanui Jones L.Edwards
INTER: B.Williams, SPS, Nelson, Foley

Shuey and Rioli?

 

[southcoast]

B Hurn Barrass Witherdan
HB Duggan McGovern Rotham
C Gaff Redden Naish
HF Ryan Darling Petrucclle
F Rioli Kennedy Waterman
FOLL: Naitanui Jones L.Edwards
INTER: B.Williams, SPS, Nelson, Foley

Jones injured - Shuey in his place.
Witherden, Rotham and Petrucelle - on borrowed time.
Be good to replace them all at some stage.
Not sure if we’ve got replacements on the park at the moment. Maybe Hough - but he looks a little out of depth atm though.

 

[Trebor57]

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Can't remember where it was but I've seen his grave.

 

[Scotland]

The backs coach (Pratt, says Wiki) needs to sort out the defence.

This is not a bad group of players:

B Hurn Barrass Witherden
HB Duggan McGovern Rotham

But how many of them are good one on one defenders? How many are accountable? We're missing Cole who is limited but defence first and Sheppard who was a gun. We didn't have the full compliment on the weekend but the balance just looks a bit off to me. If our midfield wasn't dogshit I would suggest moving someone like Shuey to half back to create a bit of drive.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Petrucelle and Langdon should be getting the riot act read this week.

Show something as senior players or others will get a crack.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Petrucelle and Langdon should be getting the riot act read this week.

Show something as senior players or others will get a crack.

They're not senior players. They're both just cracking 50 games experience.

 

[FKASC]

They're not senior players. They're both just cracking 50 games experience.

To be fair Langdon will be 27 in a few months and has played 90+ senior matches if you count his League and Reserves games for Claremont

 

[RookiePick]

To be fair Langdon will be 27 in a few months and has played 90+ senior matches if you count his League and Reserves games for Claremont

Probably going to join that famous club of people who's careers ended at age 27.

 

[FKASC]

Probably going to join that famous club of people who's careers ended at age 27.

None of them had legs like his though

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

To be fair Langdon has played over 200 games if you include all his junior footy and every time he’s kicked the ball with mates in a park.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Probably gonna jinx it but surprising no players rumoured to be iso yet this week.
Maybe we've gotten over the bump somewhat.
Might have multiple players turning out for the reserves this Saturday.