Preview Changes vs Essendon

[port_adelaide_1870]

IN

#TheFuture

If so then
IN: Another loss

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

#BringbackChappy

 

[RossFC]

IN: Shaw, Clurey, O'Shea, A.Young
OUT: S.Gray, Carlile, Trengove, Mitchell

 

[b0ydman]

I

First thing's first is to remove the SANFL guys who expose us at AFL level, sorry SGray and Mitchell.

Now let's not play injured players, Trengove.

Let's bring in the guy who actually has an impact at AFL level, Aaron Young.

Now our structure is kind of a mess, we are missing a backup ruck and are one tall short. Bring in Mason Shaw. And let's reward someone playing well in the 2s.

OUT: Gray, Mitchell, Trengove
IN: Young, Logan, Shaw

Too obvious. Should have done this week and wouldn't have lost

 

[Power Raid]

definitely not hitchcock for sgray

 

[Power Raid]

IN: Shaw, Clurey, Logan, A.Young
OUT: S.Gray, Carlile, Trengove, Mitchell

 

[b0ydman]

I'm not sure what Mitchell did wrong? I thought he was one of our better players in the second half today - ran hard, tackled well and competed.

Continually 1 on 1 with a tall on a footrace to the ball, lost every time drew on another when they were going for goal

One good piece of play.

Slipped over.


S.p.u.d.

I detest him for his 2 acts of cowardice and moronicism in 5 crucial minutes vs Sydney.

Adds nothing. That we play him and impey and Sam gray is bizarre. Ken seriously you can't be putting game time into gray and Mitchell at the expense of young and newton, and exposing impey like that.

Seriously. This was a game we needed someone other than those 3

 

[scottjr]

Young we could have used today. Clurey comes in we know he's up to it.
Sam Gray and Trengrove out.
Waiting for the weather to make a call on another tall or not.

 

[yepits2020]

Out: Gray, Mitchell, Trengove

In: Young, Cassisi, Shaw/Butcher

Get Westhoff to play majority in defense to be that tall defender. Shaw or Butcher could be that tall forward to fill the role Westhoff would normally have.

Don't know about the ins and outs, but I do like the notion of Westhoff being a defender. Actually does a decent job.

If Trengove is not available, I think we are in deep shyte in the ruck.

Other than that, I have no idea at this stage. Shaw yesterday was o.k., but not dominating. Young did well, but disposal was ordinary. Not fit enough for a full game. Logan ok I guess, but did not impress.

I am hoping that we are just getting ready for finals and winning and losing now is a bit secondary to preparation for them.

 

[Nelso]

if Carlile is out too, then we made need both Butcher and Shaw

No we don't.

Hombsch will take Daniher and Jonas will take Carlile. Essendon don't have another tall forward unless they bring in Bellchambers as they are playing Ryder in ruck for most of the game.

You could not possibly pick Butcher on form. Shaw deserves a go.

 

[edgie]

No we don't.

Hombsch will take Daniher and Jonas will take Carlile. Essendon don't have another tall forward unless they bring in Bellchambers as they are playing Ryder in ruck for most of the game.

You could not possibly pick Butcher on form. Shaw deserves a go.

Butcher deserved a go on form nearly 2 months ago. Westhoff will most likely take on all of the relief ruck work, which will still leave us with only 2 talls forward if only one plays. There is room for both.

 

[Seanybruz]

Hombsch will take Daniher and Jonas will take Carlile. Essendon don't have another tall forward unless they bring in Bellchambers as they are playing Ryder in ruck for most of the game.

Unless Bomber loses all coaching ability within the next week I can guarantee he'll play all 3 of Daniher, Carlilse & Hurley to stretch our now severely small undermanned backline.

Clurey needs to not only come in & hit the ground running now but we'll probably need O'Shea as well & hope we can stop them isolating Daniher on Hombsch.

Agree that we can't bring Butcher in on form that ship has sailed for now but Shaw getting a debut could be a possibility.

 

[Ant Bear]

Re: Mitchell
S.p.u.d.

I detest him for his 2 acts of cowardice and moronicism in 5 crucial minutes vs Sydney.

Adds nothing. That we play him and impey and Sam gray is bizarre. Ken seriously you can't be putting game time into gray and Mitchell at the expense of young and newton, and exposing impey like that.

Seriously. This was a game we needed someone other than those 3

Detest? Cowardice? Moronicism? These are disgraceful terms. Do you call yourself a supporter or are you just a fool?
Mitchell is not our best player, but he tried hard and is coming along reasonably well for a guy with less than 20 games. Direct your anger at the experienced players who let us down badly today - Hartlett, Wingard, Ebert etc.

 

[Alberton_Magpie]

Out: Sam Gray (Not AFL Standard), Kane Mitchell (Not AFL Standard), Angus Monfries (Out of form), Jackson Trengrove (Injured)
In: Mason Shaw (Need a 3rd Tall), Domenic Cassisi (Lacked Leadership), Aaron Young (Ball Winner), Tom Logan (Ball Winner)

 

[1954]

With Carlile and Jacko almost certain to miss next week, you do have to wonder if Butch could have been given a run in defence for the Maggies last season, at least for some experience, and possibly confidence as well.
At 197 cm he could have been a viable alternative, but now he would have to go in stone cold, and with little, to no form to fall back on.

Clurey looks ok, and will probably have to be selected, but he will be giving away a fair bit of size to any AFL opponent, particularly kpp's.

Hombsch could get the job done at fullback, but he also would be comfortably outsized by most key forwards.

 

[n4nirvana]

1 of Shaw or Butcher to come in

 

[Seanybruz]

Sounds like the injuries to Jacko & Bobby aren't too serious http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2014-06-29/injury-update-scans-for-key-backs

Even though we wait for scans I'm breathing a sigh of relief for our season that JT's was a rolled ankle & not a severe hammy tear or knee injury. Bobby tight hammy in last 2 minutes...

 

[brad the brain]

Out: Sam Gray (Not AFL Standard), Kane Mitchell (Not AFL Standard), Angus Monfries (Out of form), Jackson Trengrove (Injured)
In: Mason Shaw (Need a 3rd Tall), Domenic Cassisi (Lacked Leadership), Aaron Young (Ball Winner), Tom Logan (Ball Winner)

Outs should be Sam Gray was and is certainly not up to the big stage yet. Mitchell isn't quite up to standard either.He tries so hard but delivers so little.I think Monfries may have too much on his mind the last couple of weeks? Trengove and Booby Carlile injured maybe?
Ins would have to be Tom Logan.He must be feeling r*ped after last week.Aaron Young who dominated the magoos.Benny Newton too.

 

[dinger]

Well it doesn't matter what the changes are if Ken gets outcoached again. We lost vs Adelaide before the ball was bounced and on a 6 day turnaround with heavy legs like they had this will be a struggle to beat essendon

Ken, time to stop being smart and play a proper forward line. Your decisions to push the forwards up so far has been exposed time and time again, and a few times we got out of jail but not today, or vs Sydney, or vs North

And really, if you think on a game where rain was predicted that Sam Gray and that mega squid Mitchell were better choice than Logan and Young, you need to think again

Being 'smart' has placed us second so far and meant we've only dropped 3 games. He has done this game plan time and time again because its been working. This is his second year coaching for shits sake - I want a premiership but throwing insults at Hinkley is ****ing ludicrous.

There was some mistakes made when it came to doing the match ups and unfortunately we came out with a loss. Hinkley so far has proven that he's more than capable of learning from his mistakes, some were made this game

 

[MALTSY]

Trengove out is the first thing we have to deal with it. At first glance you'd think Clurey is the guy to come into him, but when you think about it a bit that's probably not the best option. We still have Carlile, Hombsch and Jonas in defence, but Trengove out makes Westhoff the second ruck, and that means we're down to one key forward when Lobbe needs a rest. That's bad against any team, but it's damn near suicidal against a team with Cale Hooker, Jake Carlisle and Dustin Fletcher in their back 6. So I think we need to replace Trengove with a tall forward, not a defender. Butch has kicked 1 goal in the last two weeks, and Shaw has kicked 12 goals in the last 3 weeks. That makes me lean towards giving Mason a surprise debut. Timing is everything for reserves players, and the spot opened up at the right time for Mason with Butch woefully out of form and P. Stew injured.

Sam Gray out for Young. No deep tactical reason for that, Young is just a better player. Gray is too Brett Ebert-ish for mine, his gamestyle requires him to be about 15 cm's taller than he actually is. Kern will probably bring in Cassisi but I rate Young higher, especially since he can go forward.

I think Mitchell did enough to keep his spot with 12 disposals, 6 tackles and a goal (technically the goal went to Polec but Mitchell did all the work), but he should stay as sub and Young should get a full game. If he was to go out, Newton would come into consideration. I thought he was better than Young in the SANFL. Young's stat sheet looked better, but just about every kick was a helicopter. Newton used the ball a lot better, and he still did get plenty of it even if it wasn't quite as much as Young.

I'd also consider Impey out for O'Shea. The Bombers don't really have the sort of player who requires somebody like Impey, and Trengove out means that the extra height down back wouldn't hurt.

B: T. Jonas, A. Carlile, C. O'Shea
HB: J. Pittard, J. Hombsch, M. Broadbent
C: H. Hartlett, O. Wines, K. Cornes
HF: R. Gray, J. Westhoff, C. Wingard
F: A. Monfries, J. Schulz, M. Shaw
R: M. Lobbe, T. Boak, B. Ebert
Int: J. Polec, M. White, A. Young
Sub: K. Mitchell

In: Shaw, Young, O'Shea
Out: Trengove (inj), S. Gray, Impey

Agree with most of your points (great summary btw) although I'd prefer that we had a bit taller sub than Mitchell and I think that's why a Young type player is preferable.

OUT: Mitchell, Trengove and S.Gray
IN: Shaw, Young, O'Shea/Clurey

 

[MALTSY]

has he earnt his spot?...serious question....or could shaw come in over him

No..he isn't playing well enough.

 

[Chachi]

Even though we wait for scans I'm breathing a sigh of relief for our season that JT's was a rolled ankle & not a severe hammy tear or knee injury. Bobby tight hammy in last 2 minutes...

The Trengove injury still concerns me. He definitely grabbed the lower hamstring when he went down. Bobby will miss next week if he has tightness, Burgo won't risk it.

 

[Chachi]

IN: Shaw, Clurey, Logan, A.Young
OUT: S.Gray, Carlile, Trengove, Mitchell

Newton?

 

[Macca19]

Clurey for Carlile
O'Shea for Trengove
Butcher/Shaw for S Gray
Young for Mitchell

I don't think Mitchell did anything wrong, but I think Young is better now and better long term. We need a 3rd tall up forward so Gray misses out.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Out: Carlile, Trengove, s.gray
In: clurey, shaw, young