Changes Vs Essendon

[cotter101]

Never should have turned Mayes into a defender. His most promising football has always been as a midfielder/hff type.

It’s a decision I’ve never agreed with.

 

[jackess]

Never should have turned Mayes into a defender. His most promising football has always been as a midfielder/hff type.

It’s a decision I’ve never agreed with.

I can't see the weaknesses in his game being less of an issue playing forward than it is when he plays down back.

He's just too passive. Wants to sit back and let the game come to him. At least as a defender he's forced into the play.

 

[blynd_freddie]

I’m thinking if both Charlie Cameron and Mitch Robinson are out injured… I’m thinking Berry and either Mathieson or Barrett.

• both Charlie and Mitch are in our top 9 for goal assists and top 6 for score involvements – last year Barrett was top 10 Mathieson equal 11
• Mitch out highest ranked for contested possessions [Lester #6should stay?] Last year the Beast was #4 Barrett #15
• Mitch #2 for tackles [Lester #4] In 2017 Jake#3 & Rhys ranked #8
• Charlie 3rd for goal assists in 2017 Rhys #10 Jake#11

Others?
Bell for endurance and TOLD to play Mitch/Wrecking Ball style!
Sam Mayes? Playing the Charlie forward role? Could? be interesting.

 

[M Malice]

I’m thinking if both Charlie Cameron and Mitch Robinson are out injured… I’m thinking Berry and either Mathieson or Barrett.

• both Charlie and Mitch are in our top 9 for goal assists and top 6 for score involvements – last year Barrett was top 10 Mathieson equal 11
• Mitch out highest ranked for contested possessions [Lester #6should stay?] Last year the Beast was #4 Barrett #15
• Mitch #2 for tackles [Lester #4] In 2017 Jake#3 & Rhys ranked #8
• Charlie 3rd for goal assists in 2017 Rhys #10 Jake#11

Others?
Bell for endurance and TOLD to play Mitch/Wrecking Ball style!
Sam Mayes? Playing the Charlie forward role? Could? be interesting.

Agree with you on getting Matheison in with Mitch out, Rhys had 15 contested possessions in the ressies on the weekend and he also brings a bit of attitude to the side.

I don't think it's in Bells DNA to play a wrecking ball style of game, old dog and new tricks and all that.

 

[blynd_freddie]

Never should have turned Mayes into a defender. His most promising football has always been as a midfielder/hff type.

It’s a decision I’ve never agreed with.

Agree highly with this, was what attracted the high draft selection IMO. His going back was maybe a defensive education and due to at the time 'best fit' for positive skill/ball use out of the back half, stayed there too long?

 

[jackess]

Agree highly with this, was what attracted the high draft selection IMO. His going back was maybe a defensive education and due to at the time 'best fit' for positive skill/ball use out of the back half, stayed there too long?

The 'inside word' from those on this board who know better was that Mayes wanted to play down back.

 

[blynd_freddie]

Agree with you on getting Matheison in with Mitch out, Rhys had 15 contested possessions in the ressies on the weekend and he also brings a bit of attitude to the side.

Certainly a bit of like for like mongrel - depends on how his endurance levels have improved. Would love the 'best of' hybrid of Rhys and Tom Bell rolled into one... cotter101 - any mature non-AFL level of this type waiting to be picked up in this draft?

 

[blynd_freddie]

The 'inside word' from those on this board who know better was that Mayes wanted to play down back.

Yeah, certainly recall the same but I think both he and the club may need to reassess this going forward [well before next contract time]

 

[Checkered]

The good news this week with Mitch being out is that no one on the Bombers knows how to win a hard ball anyway so we're probably still alright in that regard.

Really such a shame that we'll be missing a lot of best 22 and the rest of them will be knackered after last week. Would have been such a winnable game but not so much anymore.

 

[jackess]

Yeah, certainly recall the same but I think both he and the club may need to reassess this going forward [well before next contract time]

Me too. He's clearly not best 22 at the moment so hopefully he's willing to do whatever it takes to get his spot back.

 

[jackess]

I wonder if we could send Hodge into the center for the opening bounce to set the tone. Surely we try something different this week.

 

[Comeback Lions]

Agree with you on getting Matheison in with Mitch out, Rhys had 15 contested possessions in the ressies on the weekend and he also brings a bit of attitude to the side.

Are you sure? Source? We were minus 12 in clearances and their midfielders racked it up, so it sounds surprising and surely he would have got votes for that many CP? He had 15 handballs, but that doesn't make them all contested. (Maybe you're mixing him up with Tom Bell from the week before?) But if you're right, then great, it's an impressive effort.

 

[jackess]

Cameron out for the rest of the season

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2018-06-05/weekly-update-round-12

 

[jackess]

Cox out for 1-2 with a hammy, Robbo out for 3, Clug, berry and Bundy all tests

http://www.lions.com.au/news/injurylist

 

[pulpdriver]

Cameron out for the rest of the season

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2018-06-05/weekly-update-round-12

That's a shame but expected. He was one of my favourite things about us to watch this year. Oh well, just get him fixed, focused and cherry ripe for next year.

 

[pulpdriver]

Ballenden facial fracture: 3 - 5 weeks
I missed all word about that completely. When did that happen?

 

[jackess]

Ballenden facial fracture: 3 - 5 weeks
I missed all word about that completely. When did that happen?

Weekend before last against the Swans. Headclash in the last quarter IIRC. They haven't mentioned it before today.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

It seems we are always having to focus on next year. At least Skinner is listed as only two weeks which is great for him.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Cameron out for the rest of the season

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2018-06-05/weekly-update-round-12

See you all in the draft thread. Ugh.

Is Lisfranc potentially career threatening like the Navicular? Or is the prognosis for the rest of his career all good?

 

[pulpdriver]

It seems we are always having to focus on next year. At least Skinner is listed as only two weeks which is great for him.

Would love to see him get a few senior games at the end of the year.

 

[jackess]

1-10 with a golden run with injuries. How will we finish the year?

 

[pulpdriver]

1-10 with a golden run with injuries. How will we finish the year?

Probably best not to think about it.

 

[The Zork]

I can't see the weaknesses in his game being less of an issue playing forward than it is when he plays down back.

He's just too passive. Wants to sit back and let the game come to him. At least as a defender he's forced into the play.

Also feel like they wanted to morph him into the good user off the backline as well. But seems like the skills decreased in line with the confidence.

 

[jackess]

Probably best not to think about it.

I honestly don't think Cameron is much of a loss. MRobbo is more important.

If Bundy and/or Clug miss we'll need some class. With Cox unavailable Mayes has to come in.

I'd shift Rich into the midfield before promoting Matho or Lyons. He's surplus to requirements down back and is worth a shot in the middle.

Win enough ball in the middle and I'm confident we can kick enough goals to win.

 

[pulpdriver]

I honestly don't think Cameron is much of a loss. MRobbo is more important.

If Bundy and/or Clug miss we'll need some class. With Cox available Mayes has to come in.

I'd shift Rich into the midfield before promoting Matho or Lyons. He's surplus to requirements down back and is worth a shot in the middle.

Win enough ball in the middle and I'm confident we can kick enough goals to win.

I dunno. He was averaging 6 score involvements a game before last week and is our highest goal scorer. He's been able to act as a focal point up forward, has been one of our creative field kickers when he was moved up the ground. He's been bloody awesome this year imo. MRobbo will no doubt be missed intensely. Cox has a hamstring issue, he'll be out for 1-2 weeks according to that injury report.