Changes Vs Fremantle

[Heafy83]

After reading statements from the club regarding Tippett no one can deny we are putting Tippett's health first. He trained well and even feels 100% but the doctor has said no to him playing because of a couple of iffy test results. Kudos to the crows for their great management here

 

[Slippery Pete]

Would I be right in saying if we lose this game, we shouldnt be playing finals or rather our chances in the finals are screwed!?

No, you wouldn't.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Geelong lost to Sydney at Kardinia Park this time last year.

Round 22 1997.....

We could go on and on really.

Poster must have started watching sport last night.

 

[TARANTULA]

Maybe Tippett has done a Bock and we have now benched him for the rest of the year.......

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Maybe Tippett has done a Bock and we have now benched him for the rest of the year.......

My thoughts exactly...

Interest in Cloke being made public.... Very strange move for our ultra conservative club...

Tippett missing a 3rd week? I thought Beau Waters copped it harder...

And I hate conspiracy theorists.... I might just shut up

 

[Slippery Pete]

Tippett out and Johnston in.

I find it a bit weird. VB said in his presser he trained well and if he pulled up ok tomorrow he would be in. What's happened within that 30mins-1hour to make him a withdrawal?

Sando saw him on Better Homes and Gardens.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Maybe Tippett has done a Bock and we have now benched him for the rest of the year.......

It is definitely starting to look like it. There is clearly something going on, given that Johnston was rumoured to be playing yesterday and Tippett has only been withdrawn today.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I would think that with finals beckoning, he'd be playing regardless of whether he had told the club he was leaving or not.

 

[relapse]

I think people are forgetting that Tippett suffered 3 successive concussions in 5 weeks. I'm sure there is no other reason behind his omission, why else would they name him in the first place ?

 

[Wood_Duck]

I would think that with finals beckoning, he'd be playing regardless of whether he had told the club he was leaving or not.

Hmmm, not so sure. Interesting to hear Nic Maxwell say the other day that if this week was the grand final they still would have suspended Dane Swan. Not completely relevant to the Tippett situation but does indicate how far clubs are prepared to go to send a message.

 

[The Smaller Warrior]

Pretty confident I heard Sando say something along the lines of "We will make the decision of Kurt up until Friday" the other day, so wouldn't be too worried.

Perhaps he was looking good to go, but the doctor has made the final call today.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

I would think that with finals beckoning, he'd be playing regardless of whether he had told the club he was leaving or not.

True. But if he was going I would want to get a few games under the belt of his replacement for 2013 first....

 

[Wood_Duck]

I think people are forgetting that Tippett suffered 3 successive concussions in 5 weeks. I'm sure there is no other reason behind his omission, why else would they name him in the first place ?

This may well be the case. You just cant help but wonder how a guy can train at 100% and be ruled out. I wonder what the concerns are, what are the symptoms that indicate he has not recovered?

 

[ltdamn]

After reading statements from the club regarding Tippett no one can deny we are putting Tippett's health first. He trained well and even feels 100% but the doctor has said no to him playing because of a couple of iffy test results. Kudos to the crows for their great management here

Correct.

Can you imagine if they did play him even with the iffy results and he got concussed again? The furore from the AFL, media, armchair experts and everyone else would be untenable, let alone the potential health consequences. If he plays again this year and gets concussed, it needs to be off the back of a 100% clean bill of health - the club owes him nothing less, regardless of how much he wants to play or is thinking about leaving or our potential finals chances.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

You sod.
To retaliate, I'm picking up Tippett, and making him my captain (previous captains were Sandi/Toe, Fyfe/Shoulder, Murphy/Shoulder, Judd/Susp, Franklin/Hammy, Swan/Susp).

And you are calling me a sod? Please do not change you Captain to any other Crow...

 

[pjcrows]

Almost at the point where, if he doesn't play next week, he will find it very difficult to get back in for the finals, purely on match hardened fitness and team dynamics.

 

[MaccasNeighbour]

This may well be the case. You just cant help but wonder how a guy can train at 100% and be ruled out. I wonder what the concerns are, what are the symptoms that indicate he has not recovered?

They run a series of test that measure things like reaction times to test if there are any ongoing effects fromt he concussion(s). The players undergo a concussion test before the start of the season to measure their 'baseline' level. Sando said a couple of days ago that if Kurt didn't measure at his baseline level they would not play him.

A guy can seem/feel/train completely fine but still score below their baseline.

FWIW I'm confident Tippett will be leaving us this year. I don't have any factual information, it's just a gut feeling. But as Pete mentioned, with finals around the corner I don't think there's anything more to it i.e. not playing him to make a statement regarding him (possibly) leaving AFC.

 

[BrissyCrow]

I think people are forgetting that Tippett suffered 3 successive concussions in 5 weeks. I'm sure there is no other reason behind his omission, why else would they name him in the first place ?

I would also say that the timing of legitamently resting Tippett due to concussion suggests thats the real reason for him not playing. In fact the care being shown by the Crows towards Tippetts concussion would only encourage Tippett to stay. We all need a place to be where there is a lot of love and right now the Crows are putting his well being ahead of the Crows ability to get top spot.

 

[Arcassius]

Lower had two concussions -

Lower has spent the last month struggling with side effects from concussions suffered against Collingwood and Western Bulldogs in rounds 14 and 15.
He finished both games but missed the following week and battled nausea in a WAFL match upon his return seven days later.
Lower was unavailable for selection the next round before returning to training, but his health again deteriorated, forcing him to miss another week.
Housemate Michael Barlow said the midfielder often felt fine but hadn't been able to get through an entire week without problems.
"He's having a few hiccups with the concussion he got a few weeks ago," Barlow said.
"Obviously it's a pretty touchy subject in AFL footy and the player's welfare and wellbeing comes to the fore. There's nothing wrong with him around the house, it's just when he gets on the move.
"We're hoping that will settle down over the coming weeks and he should be fine to go later on in the year.
"It's only sporadic. He'll get through two or three training sessions really well and then just might not feel so well on another given day.
"He's had all the precautionary medical expertise and nothing too drastic is going on. I'm just concerned about his wellbeing."

 

[TheRoo32]

I know concussions are a serious business etc but theres definitley something suss going on here.
Tippett has trained well for 2 weeks, pulls up fine, coach and captain say he'll play, results show no long term damage and come back clear yet they say "the doctors feel its safer for him not to play". He's either leaving and their not playing him, or the AFL are secretly forcing Adelaide to give him at least a month off. As far as I can tell if someone trains well, pulls up fine and feels 100% they play. Theres something not quite right about all this...

 

[pjcrows]

Whatever it is, it's going to become and large and unwanted distraction leading into the finals. As history shows, teams with uncertainty - whether it be real or perceived - are impacted.

Tippett's concussions are out of anyone's control, but the signing or non-signing is within their control.

The only thing that ends speculation and unwanted distractions is him signing, but I don't think that's going to happen before the season is out.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Hmmm, not so sure. Interesting to hear Nic Maxwell say the other day that if this week was the grand final they still would have suspended Dane Swan. Not completely relevant to the Tippett situation but does indicate how far clubs are prepared to go to send a message.

Nick is full of shit.

 

[Heafy83]

Hmmm, not so sure. Interesting to hear Nic Maxwell say the other day that if this week was the grand final they still would have suspended Dane Swan. Not completely relevant to the Tippett situation but does indicate how far clubs are prepared to go to send a message.

Easy to say as a Hypothetical. I can bet you he would be first picked if it was GF day.

 

[Footypie32]

My thoughts exactly...

Interest in Cloke being made public.... Very strange move for our ultra conservative club...

Tippett missing a 3rd week? I thought Beau Waters copped it harder...

And I hate conspiracy theorists.... I might just shut up

He did, but when he cops 3 concussions in a short time, then it's a different story. This is not based on 1 instance...

 

[cmndstab]

It's also not about Tippett being unable to play. He's trained 100%, he can play. It's just that, if he plays, he puts himself at risk of suffering a fourth concussion, and obviously the doctor's feel that's a big enough risk to want him to rest another week.

This is nothing to do with Tippett being a sook who can't handle hits and doesn't want to be here. He's done everything possible to get back on the park and would be there with bells on if he could get permission to do so from the club doctor.