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If Jacobs has a shocking next month, do we turf him out for September?

Form is temporary. Class is permanent.

Call it gold passes if you want.

I agree partly with you Pete. Jacobs is slightly different. We have no real other option as number 1 ruck. However class will eventually shine through in times of need I agree.

Having said all that form is integral. Remember our 06 season. We were on fire until about 5-6 weeks from the finals and started to stumble. I know injury played its part but our form was terrible. This showed in our finals performances.

I am a strong believer in winning form is good form. So whilst our games leading up to the finals would seem somewhat softer if we go in with a 5 game winning streak players will gain a lot of confidence from that and it should carry on through to the finals. If we get beaten its because we are not up to it not because of form.
 
If Jacobs has a shocking next month, do we turf him out for September?

Form is temporary. Class is permanent.

Call it gold passes if you want.

As he is our only decent ruckman that is a pretty weak example...
Jacobs would be in our top 3, if not most important player at our club..
Humor me... Where would you rank Callinan in terms of importance to our club?
 
I agree partly with you Pete. Jacobs is slightly different. We have no real other option as number 1 ruck. However class will eventually shine through in times of need I agree.

Having said all that form is integral. Remember our 06 season. We were on fire until about 5-6 weeks from the finals and started to stumble. I know injury played its part but our form was terrible. This showed in our finals performances.

I am a strong believer in winning form is good form. So whilst our games leading up to the finals would seem somewhat softer if we go in with a 5 game winning streak players will gain a lot of confidence from that and it should carry on through to the finals. If we get beaten its because we are not up to it not because of form.

Lets look at last season. Collingwood were unbackable until the wheels fell off around this time.... Remember Heath Shaw, Maxwell, Malthouse and Buckley?

Momentum is everything in sport... Try telling Collingwood that loss in the last game of the year vs Geelong didnt have ramifications!
 

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Where would you rank Callinan in terms of importance to our club?


He's fourth in our goalkicking list, one behind Porplyzia and a half a dozen behind Tippett, with daylight after him. So at the moment I'd say he's pretty important.

People expecting four goals and 20 touches from him every week have no understanding of the role of a small forward.
 
He's fourth in our goalkicking list, one behind Porplyzia and a half a dozen behind Tippett, with daylight after him. So at the moment I'd say he's pretty important.

People expecting four goals and 20 touches from him every week have no understanding of the role of a small forward.

Please put a number on it Pete? I would say he has spent almost the most minutes up forward this year aswell so I would expect him to be fourth at the very least
 
Please put a number on it Pete? I would say he has spent almost the most minutes up forward this year aswell so I would expect him to be fourth at the very least


I did put a number on it - 24 goals. The next highest goal kicker in the team is a midfielder - Sloane, with 16.

He's the best crumbing forward in the team, by a stretch.

With all due respect, I think you're the one charged with the burden of proof here.
 
Lets look at last season. Collingwood were unbackable until the wheels fell off around this time.... Remember Heath Shaw, Maxwell, Malthouse and Buckley?

Momentum is everything in sport... Try telling Collingwood that loss in the last game of the year vs Geelong didnt have ramifications!

Not sure if you are agreeing with me or not :confused:

I did say form is integral but its not everything.
 
He's in the team Freddy. If you're arguing for him to be out, burden of proof = you.

Don't try and twist the argument. I have said he should be given another week. And it isn't just goals per game but his lack of tackling and he just has not looked clean with his skills in recent weeks. Petrenko also has not troubled the scorers of late but his attack on the ball and player is second to none...
 
He's fourth in our goalkicking list, one behind Porplyzia and a half a dozen behind Tippett, with daylight after him. So at the moment I'd say he's pretty important.

People expecting four goals and 20 touches from him every week have no understanding of the role of a small forward.
Walker was dropped when leading goal scorer for us previously so think 4th pretty insignificant really .
Especially as that is only reason in team.
I was biggest fan and might get a reprieve to show what can do if Kurt back but really now not getting enough of ball for at least 5 games and liability if ball not on ground due to size and absolutely no defensive pressure. Surely if not expected to get a lot of kicks then his goals should be higher like at least 2 ave weekly. Dont also forget forwards are not actually stuck in dead areas anymore and Nutta has runs on the ball .
Others not finding ball enough also but believe coaches wont touch in particular Doughty and Petrenko.
Think Tambling should get full game on HBF and maybe match up on the pest.
Whilst not sure Riley is what we need finals time but worth looking at for another week .
 

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I reckon Tag Fyfe out the game with VB straight away. Fyfe wont be able to run off the fittest man in the AFL. Pav is going to be a worry. I think Talia should go with him though. I reckon he will be too quick and play too far up the ground for truck. Also good learning experience for Talia. If we can restrict their clean forward 50 entires this shouldn't be a problem.

Fyfe is a hard one to tag, he seems to create space in packs, and takes contested marks like a ruckman. He is usually under a tag (not usually the first tag though, that has been going to Hill, who's kicks are more damaging).

It should be a cracker. I think you'd be mad to play Tippett yet, most concussions they will say 1 week rest for the first, then 2 extra for the second and 4 for the third, so I doubt they'd rush him back for this. Better to have him primed for the finals rather than risking his entire playing future.Fortunately, our mids have found some form in the last few weeks, and unlike last year, we are building towards the finals, instead of fading fast as we came into the finals. We will miss Luke, but we have a couple of defenders in the WAFL showing form (Faulks/Silvagni and some are even suggesting Jack Anthony, or pushing Kepler back and bringing in a forward - not sure who'll get the nod). Our defence is more of a team effort, so hopefully whoever they have coming in is up to speed on the team dynamic.

Adelaide have been very good this season, especially at AAMI, but I think you'll see a more cohesive team than the one you ran over in the last quarter earlier in the season.

I'm hoping Pav kicks a bag, and our defence stands tall without Luke, as it will be a great contest if that happens.
 
Fyfe is a hard one to tag, he seems to create space in packs, and takes contested marks like a ruckman. He is usually under a tag (not usually the first tag though, that has been going to Hill, who's kicks are more damaging).

It should be a cracker. I think you'd be mad to play Tippett yet, most concussions they will say 1 week rest for the first, then 2 extra for the second and 4 for the third, so I doubt they'd rush him back for this. Better to have him primed for the finals rather than risking his entire playing future.Fortunately, our mids have found some form in the last few weeks, and unlike last year, we are building towards the finals, instead of fading fast as we came into the finals. We will miss Luke, but we have a couple of defenders in the WAFL showing form (Faulks/Silvagni and some are even suggesting Jack Anthony, or pushing Kepler back and bringing in a forward - not sure who'll get the nod). Our defence is more of a team effort, so hopefully whoever they have coming in is up to speed on the team dynamic.

Adelaide have been very good this season, especially at AAMI, but I think you'll see a more cohesive team than the one you ran over in the last quarter earlier in the season.

I'm hoping Pav kicks a bag, and our defence stands tall without Luke, as it will be a great contest if that happens.


Sorry to disappoint you but he will be playing and will help stretch your defence with Mcpharlin out. 21 days since his last minor concussion
 
Sorry to disappoint you but he will be playing and will help stretch your defence with Mcpharlin out. 21 days since his last minor concussion

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather that we play you at your best. My concern is for his welfare, not our defence.If the medical team thinks he is right to go, and he is selected to play, then I wish him good luck (but not too good ;-) )

If it was Fyfe coming back from multiple concussions, I'd be worried about bringing him back too early. There is a reason the AFL is making all moves it can to protect the head.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I'd rather that we play you at your best. My concern is for his welfare, not our defence.If the medical team thinks he is right to go, and he is selected to play, then I wish him good luck (but not too good ;-) )

If it was Fyfe coming back from multiple concussions, I'd be worried about bringing him back too early. There is a reason the AFL is making all moves it can to protect the head.
All of his concussions have been minor ones. Especially the last one. Everyone responds differently and 3 weeks could well be all he needs if the doctors are happy with how he's shaping up. Looking forward to having Kurt back out there...
 
Much as like to see Kurt back this week keep thinking that maybe another week to be sure .
Lets face it has problems once more this year then season all over.
Then of course there is the word that from this site that AFL set next week as to be first game back so be interesting to see how real that story is.
 
I'd still like to see Kurt in a stackhat.

Then he can rip it off at halftime in the preliminary final.

Note - im pretty sure this never actually happened, and that "the great Shaun Rehn taking off of the knee brace" actually occurred in an earlier season game against the Bulldogs. His first game back, actually. Someone will confirm that for me.

Still, it's a good story.
 
Much as like to see Kurt back this week keep thinking that maybe another week to be sure .
Lets face it has problems once more this year then season all over.
Then of course there is the word that from this site that AFL set next week as to be first game back so be interesting to see how real that story is.

Problem is when it comes to next week it will be the same again...... "oh just give him another week to be sure"

If all the docs, club, AFL and most importantly Tipp say he is right to go then chuck him in.

Needs to hit some form come September and no point in holding him back if its not warranted.
 

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