Preview Changes vs GWS

[PKnox]

For the record, Danger has a strained ligament in his foot which has never been serious enough to warrant a rest but it is affecting his speed and agility. It'll heal on its own.

 

[azza77]

For the record, Danger has a strained ligament in his foot which has never been serious enough to warrant a rest but it is affecting his speed and agility. It'll heal on its own.

And how did you come by this info good sir?

 

[Freshj]

For the record, Danger has a strained ligament in his foot which has never been serious enough to warrant a rest but it is affecting his speed and agility. It'll heal on its own.

If it affects his speed and agility, how doesn't it warrant a rest?

 

[headache1]

For the record, Danger has a strained ligament in his foot which has never been serious enough to warrant a rest but it is affecting his speed and agility. It'll heal on its own.

Wouldn't it heal on its own faster if he was resting?

 

[PKnox]

And how did you come by this info good sir?

A friend of the great man himself.

If it affects his speed and agility, how doesn't it warrant a rest?

Wouldn't it heal on its own faster if he was resting?

It's not an injury which will be exacerbated by playing. It'll get better when it gets better. Overall, danger is a beast a no sore foot will stop him. This is not a long term issue as far as I'm concerned, he's getting close to 100% fitness, just not there yet.

 

[azza77]

A friend of the great man himself.

I have a serious mouthful of aeroplane jelly right now

 

[Bailey01]

A friend of the great man himself.


It's not an injury which will be exacerbated by playing. It'll get better when it gets better. Overall, danger is a beast a no sore foot will stop him. This is not a long term issue as far as I'm concerned, he's getting close to 100% fitness, just not there yet.

So by the Collingwood game he will be in full fitness?

 

[PKnox]

I have a serious mouthful of aeroplane jelly right now

Que?

 

[azza77]

Que?

The term you jelly brah etc

Aeroplane jelly

You know....

 

[PKnox]

So by the Collingwood game he will be in full fitness?

As far as I know. My impression though is that he's not bothered by the foot, it's just a standard footy jiggle. He admits he's not at his best but needs help from the rest of the team.

 

[Vader]

Makes the assumption that previous selections were correct.

Makes no such assumptions at all.

 

[Vader]

It definitely won't be Laird

If Grigg is fit (still needs to pass a fitness test then Radar goes -IMO

I wouldn't be so sure. Laird was moved to the forward line last week, because Jaensch, Brown & Reilly were all preferred as defenders. To me, that says that he's the one who is barely holding on. According to Noble (or was it Harper?) Grigg was effectively dropped for Martin last week - he didn't fail the fitness test, they just wanted someone with more pace (ironic, given that Martin lost all his pace with his knee injuries).

I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with the selectors on this one, I'm just reading the tea leaves. My gut feel is that Reilly is still ahead of both Laird & Grigg and is the least likely of these 3 to be dropped.

 

[Elite Crow]

I wouldn't be so sure. Laird was moved to the forward line last week, because Jaensch, Brown & Reilly were all preferred as defenders. To me, that says that he's the one who is barely holding on. According to Noble (or was it Harper?) Grigg was effectively dropped for Martin last week - he didn't fail the fitness test, they just wanted someone with more pace (ironic, given that Martin lost all his pace with his knee injuries).

I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with the selectors on this one, I'm just reading the tea leaves. My gut feel is that Reilly is still ahead of both Laird & Grigg and is the least likely of these 3 to be dropped.

You are reading it wrong. Laird is being rewarded because of his versatility. Sando made special mention of the role Laird played up forward and how he liked the mosquito fleet we had up there. Now if Reilly was able to play more than one position his place in the team would be more secure.

 

[Vader]

If you can demonstrate it's overdone, that's fine. Happy to read. His performance was pretty bad last week though, so it's likely to be topical. Turn overs through the corridor, and getting run down in scoring range are big no nos.

I'm not deflecting anything from Danger's performance this year- it's been below his standards, and he needs to lift. I suspect he's carrying an injury. Looked positively ill at times last week.

So Danger is given leeway to perform well below his best because he's carrying an injury, but Reilly is given none, despite being 2 games into a return from injury which kept him out of the game for almost a year and ensured that he didn't play a single game during the pre-season? Talk about double standards.

 

[FR0GGY]

Since 2007 - Gazza has been smashed week in week out.

Its why so many teams don't bother putting a hard tag on Gary Ablett anymore.

Sounds legit

 

[Elite Crow]

So Danger is given leeway to perform well below his best because he's carrying an injury, but Reilly is given none, despite being 2 games into a return from injury which kept him out of the game for almost a year and ensured that he didn't play a single game during the pre-season? Talk about double standards.

You've repeated the same lie twice now.

 

[Elite Crow]

Sounds legit

I thought I was watching an episode of Once Upon a Time.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

GWS - no Mumford, no Shaw, no Whitfield, No Shiel, no Palmer, no Mohr, no Davis and Josh Hunt still to pass a fitness test

We should win and win well

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

So Danger is given leeway to perform well below his best because he's carrying an injury, but Reilly is given none, despite being 2 games into a return from injury which kept him out of the game for almost a year and ensured that he didn't play a single game during the pre-season? Talk about double standards.

Reason is Danger is a proven A grade elite player of the competition

Radar is a C grade role player who has been inconsistent since the back half of 2012

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

I wouldn't be so sure. Laird was moved to the forward line last week, because Jaensch, Brown & Reilly were all preferred as defenders. To me, that says that he's the one who is barely holding on. According to Noble (or was it Harper?) Grigg was effectively dropped for Martin last week - he didn't fail the fitness test, they just wanted someone with more pace (ironic, given that Martin lost all his pace with his knee injuries).

I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with the selectors on this one, I'm just reading the tea leaves. My gut feel is that Reilly is still ahead of both Laird & Grigg and is the least likely of these 3 to be dropped.

Vader trust me Laird won't be dropped and is very much regarded as best 22

Laird's move to the forward line was more to do with a strong need (tackling pressure) for the forward structure and the coaches trusted Laird to play this role

Laird's move forward also showed the versatility that is mow needed in a player considering the interchange cap with this in mind players like Laird who can play multiple roles and play them well are high value to the team

 

[Elite Crow]

I think he can get back to his best, and if he can he most certainly has a spot in our best 22. He wasn't great against St.Kilda, but he was nowhere near as bad as many on here say. However, if his stays at last Sunday's level or declines then he could very well find himself out of the side (which I wouldn't be upset with).

I expect more from Danger than I do from Reilly. I am sure most rational people would.

No shit. Of course our chances of winning a flag would be greater if we had more players similar to Danger than to Reilly. But in case you haven't noticed - superstars don't grow on trees. Players of Danger's calibre are pretty rare - so it hurts us a team a hell of a lot more when Danger doesn't perform than when Reilly doesn't perform.

You keep trotting that line out. Haven't heard that line in reference to Jaensch this year. Nor Henderson last year.

To your little 'accepting mediocrity' dig. What bullshit. Brent Reilly in our team is the reason we will never win another flag?

You do realise Reilly's form against the Saints was on par with 2013? All of a sudden he's going to recapture 2012 form when he didn't have an opponent? And yes I do trot that line out because it is a fact. His 2011 was shit. His 2013 was shit. He's been average this year.

I also expect more from Danger than Reilly because he is a good player. Reilly isn't so I want him out, I want someone better with a future. I also understand superstars don't grow on trees, someone in between Reilly and Danger would do, someone like Smith. And it's not that hard a concept, keep average players in your team means you don't win finals, let alone flags.

 

[Vader]

Reason is Danger is a proven A grade elite player of the competition

Radar is a C grade role player who has been inconsistent since the back half of 2012

B grade. Not C grade. His 2012 was outstanding. His start to 2013 was poor, largely the result of Sando getting the pre-season completely wrong. Then he got injured. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his form prior to 2012 either. Reilly is currently 3 games into a return from long term injury. He deserves to be given the opportunity to get up to speed.

Now, he may or may not make it back to where he was. If he doesn't, then so be it. But he does deserve that opportunity.

 

[Vader]

Vader trust me Laird won't be dropped and is very much regarded as best 22

Laird's move to the forward line was more to do with a strong need (tackling pressure) for the forward structure and the coaches trusted Laird to play this role

Laird's move forward also showed the versatility that is mow needed in a player considering the interchange cap with this in mind players like Laird who can play multiple roles and play them well are high value to the team

You can take your spin on the move, I'll take mine. Either way, I'm expecting both Reilly & Laird to play on Sunday, with Grigg missing out.

Gotta love your spin though.. Laird's move is because he offers versatility, yet when players like VB & Reilly get moved around it's because they're not good enough to hold their old position. In all 3 cases it's because Sando wants to achieve a certain team structure and these players get given different jobs because that's the best way of fitting them into Sando's jigsaw.

 

[Elite Crow]

B grade. Not C grade. His 2012 was outstanding. His start to 2013 was poor, largely the result of Sando getting the pre-season completely wrong. Then he got injured. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his form prior to 2012 either. Reilly is currently 3 games into a return from long term injury. He deserves to be given the opportunity to get up to speed.

Now, he may or may not make it back to where he was. If he doesn't, then so be it. But he does deserve that opportunity.

He was poor in 2011. He was our tagger and was horrible.
He had an outstanding start to 2012 until the opposition manned up on him.
He was dropped in 2013, by your theory, all or our players should have been dropped because of our pre-season.

But it's good to see you've gone from almost a year to a long injury.

 

[Elite Crow]

You can take your spin on the move, I'll take mine. Either way, I'm expecting both Reilly & Laird to play on Sunday, with Grigg missing out.

Gotta love your spin though.. Laird's move is because he offers versatility, yet when players like VB & Reilly get moved around it's because they're not good enough to hold their old position. In all 3 cases it's because Sando wants to achieve a certain team structure and these players get given different jobs because that's the best way of fitting them into Sando's jigsaw.

Spin? Are you sure you are not dizzy? Sando gave the reason why he was moved and it worked.

Do you want to know the difference between moving Reilly and Laird? Laird could go back to defence and play well. Could Reilly go back to the midfield and tagger and play well?