Preview Changes vs. Hawks

[Kane McGoodwin]

Nicholls had that big an influence in the 2012 prelim he got top votes in Hawthorns B&F!

Only fair as he was ultimately their matchwinner!

 

[Bailey01]

So what do people reckon the changes should be?

 

[hippyhippy]

We gave up our 1st round selection plus our compensation pick for losing Davi$ to GWS. We got Brown & Crouch in return.

do you know who GWS got for these picks?

 

[Vader]

do you know who GWS got for these picks?

Our 2011 pick #10 became Liam Sumner.

The Phil Davi$ compensation pick was activated in 2012 and subsequently became pick #20. It ended up in the hands of Collingwood, who used it to draft Tim Broomhead.

 

[Slippery Pete]

The Brodie Smith throw call from 70 meters away by the non-controlling ump when he clearly tapped it, Dave Mackay's 50 meters for a regulation spoil attempt, Jordan Lewis getting bumped in the head by his teammate and scoring a free for it, Cyril getting a free because Mackay and Danger collided with each other near him, Buddy's headlock on Rutten. Too many to list.

Nicholls is a blatant cheat. Clear worst umpire in the league. If we have drawn him again, we are screwed. Razor makes an enormous number of shit calls and absolutely loves the spotlight, but he seems to dick over the whole league fairly evenly. Nicholls is just a cheat who plays favourites.

Need a big effort from the 19th man. Expect a few shit calls early, however, as they attempt to show that they're 'not going to be intimidated by the crowd.'

This was also the game where Hawks players kept "getting in lower," taking out the legs of Crows players and getting frees for in the back. Obviously that rule changed the next year.

I remember it happening at one or two crucial centre clearances in the last quarter.

 

[Geoffa32]

Our 2011 pick #10 became Liam Sumner.

The Phil Davi$ compensation pick was activated in 2012 and subsequently became pick #20. It ended up in the hands of Collingwood, who used it to draft Tim Broomhead.

Who Matt Randell got to know in his time with the u/18 SA Team straight after we sacked him......... along with Grundy and Kennedy.

 

[Moonwatcher]

IIRC that's not entirely true - we noticed him because he sent us a tape of his performances; I believe he also sent that tape to Collingwood in an effort to get drafted. We were just smarter / quicker (and lucky as hell he barracked for us as a kid)

I thought the story on here was Collingwood gave him the offer first and then Tex rang the club and said you'd better take me now before I go to Collingwood.

 

[Crow_Magnon]

I know it's not the way Sando likes to role, but we MUST keep the pace on this game and turn it into a shootout.

The Hawks have a decimated backline, so our forwards should be too much of a handful if given plenty of quality delivery. They don't have the talls to cover Tex, JJ and Pods so we need to take advantage of this. I think our backs should be able to break even with their forwards.

With Kerridge out we don't have a shut down mid and with Sewell out I think we can afford to go head to head in the midfield assuming Thommo and Danger are good to go. However I would consider putting Laird on Mitchell when he's in the midfield (not centre bounces though) as he would not be giving up too much height.

We should get plenty of run and carry from Hendo, Smith, Jaensch, DMac and Martin. So I think it's crucial these guys keep the pace on the game to ensure our forwards get plenty of supply. North seemed to do this well. If Hill doesn't play, that's a big bonus for us in this area.

We need to capitalise on our strengths, and in this game our tall forwards is it. It's been a long time since we have considered our outside run as being a strength, but I think in this game it is. If I was Sando I would be pumping up our 5 run and carry players and our 3 key forwards for a massive game.

Is this midfield not the centre bounces? Isn't that where we'd want Laird tagging him? I do, however, agree that we may have the advantage up forward - if it's relatively fine and not too wet underfoot - otherwise it may work to their advantage.

 

[footy4ever]

The Brodie Smith throw call from 70 meters away by the non-controlling ump when he clearly tapped it, Dave Mackay's 50 meters for a regulation spoil attempt, Jordan Lewis getting bumped in the head by his teammate and scoring a free for it, Cyril getting a free because Mackay and Danger collided with each other near him, Buddy's headlock on Rutten. Too many to list.

This.

Happy now? Now I feel sick allover again.

those campaigners!

 

[footy4ever]

I wasn't able to make this game due to other commitments, but i watched the last quarter on the television and when that free was paid I nearly destroyed my tv. If something like this happens on Friday, i'm invading the pitch.

I will lose my shit. Do not sit next to me.

 

[Crow-eater]

The Brodie Smith throw call from 70 meters away by the non-controlling ump when he clearly tapped it, Dave Mackay's 50 meters for a regulation spoil attempt, Jordan Lewis getting bumped in the head by his teammate and scoring a free for it, Cyril getting a free because Mackay and Danger collided with each other near him, Buddy's headlock on Rutten. Too many to list.

Nicholls is a blatant cheat. Clear worst umpire in the league. If we have drawn him again, we are screwed. Razor makes an enormous number of shit calls and absolutely loves the spotlight, but he seems to dick over the whole league fairly evenly. Nicholls is just a cheat who plays favourites.

Need a big effort from the 19th man. Expect a few shit calls early, however, as they attempt to show that they're 'not going to be intimidated by the crowd.'

I dislike you for bringing up these repressed memories Dandy. I had to go see my therapist again.

I ****ing HATE Nicholls and McInerney. Razor Ray is just a shit umpire, those other two just make me really mad.

 

[footy4ever]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how Sando will use the big fellas up forward. All the signs point to us being able to stretch their backs and have more importantly expose their lack of hight. Throw in a rampaging Betts and we should have an avalanche of options. The cards are layed out.. This is a game we expect to win, and SHOULD win. Having Hendo down back is a big plus also. Him and Otten having a really good understanding.. Hopefully this is a sign of better things to come.

The betting doesn't quite agree. I love it when the opposition favourites go down playing the Crows.

 

[MRB37]

Can't forget the Luke Thompson "I'm not playing on" play on call as well.

 

[DD#23]

DISCLAIMER: may induce crying

 

[SloaneysDanger]

Omg.. no videos of that game PLEASE. I have refused to watch ANY highlights of that terrible day since it happened...

 

[footy4ever]

So what do people reckon the changes should be?

Yes. Please no more about that ghastly display of umpiring. It makes me too nervous about Friday night.

 

[Sir Vlado]

I watched the video, safe to say the umpiring was as disgraceful as I remembered it to be.

 

[DD#23]

Omg.. no videos of that game PLEASE. I have refused to watch ANY highlights of that terrible day since it happened...

sorry, just wanted to show that it wasn't just quality reaming by the umpires but quantity as well.

I can't believe we had to wear that horrible ****ing "clash" guernsey in a preliminary final either, disgraceful IMO.

 

[MRB37]

God, even with it being a replay I almost found myself yelling at the screen over some of those calls.

 

[footy4ever]

DISCLAIMER: may induce crying

I thought it was ridiculous watching it live at the ground. I only got half way through and couldn't watch anymore. Cheating scum. We owe Hawks big time, and even if we win this week it won't come close to payback for being written out of the script for the 2012 GF. ****ers.

 

[King Elvis]

I was at the game, surrounded by Hawks supporters - a number of them apologized and were embarrassed about the result.

It was beyond ****ed.

 

[Glenno23]

It is looking more likely that things will be wet and greasy on Friday night. Hawthorn are a good wet weather side (check their results in Tassie) and we will have to do everything right to get over the line. Team selection will be very important and I wouldn't be surprised to see a late change.

My wish list includes;
- Absolutely no injured players
- Don't bring back Radar
- If it's really wet, bring in Matty Crouch instead of either Truck or JPod (preferably Truck).

I think you'll get the Reilly one. He won't play

No injured players? Danger will play

Would love to see Crouch in the wet

 

[Glenno23]

I remember going bananas in my lounge room when Porps (or Stiffy?) kicked the running goal from 50 to hit the lead in the last and getting texts from my (non crows supporting) mates saying 'OMG, OMG'

I also remember feeling the inevitability that the Hawks would get the next centre clearance and kick a goal. Step up, one Shane Burgoyne

So close we could taste it

 

[MarcusP2]

It was Stiffy. Was following the game and going bananas in the common room at my hostel in Madrid.

Of course that didn't last long.

 

[earlsta]

I was at the game, worst piece of umpiring I've seen in my life, almost surpasses that game against St. Kilda at Etihad about 5 years ago or so.
What's even bewildering is that towards the end of the game we got a questionable decision, I think it was a 50m penalty and the Hawks fans behind me complained like they'd just lost the game, I turned around to them and said Are you kidding yourselves? Are you ****ing kidding me?
You've had a free ride all game! They didn't reply because they knew how easy they'd had it.