Preview Changes vs Hawthorn - Round 8, 2021

[UseR2006]

Fair point about giving him time to adjust to a new team. But his fitness should already be there.

And the Yeo comparison is off - Yeo was only 20 when he joined us, Langdon is 25.

Fair call on the Yeo comparison. I just remembered a fair number of those that come in from other clubs tend to struggle in their first year and his name just happened to be the first I remember.

 

[southcoast]

Only changes will be injury related -

thems going out due to injuries yesterday and thems coming in due to recovery (probably no-one on this list)

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

So we have a team missing
- Hurn, Barrass and McGovern down back
- Yeo and Shuey in the middle
- Ryan and Rioli up front

As stated last week but adding Hurn in for another 2 and Barrass for at least 2, we don't usually bring injured players in earlier



I do not believe we will get any of the above back so we have to look at what we saw on Sunday v utensil Burners and WAFL form.

O'Niell continues to do well at WAFL and is on the edge
Bailey Williams is building and his performance against Meeks was a step up. We will pick 2 rucks as Oscar will be needed down back and Vardy was OK.
Cameron - as bad as Langdon was, Cameron was brought in the side last year without earning it so I would make him put a sustained run of form prior to picking.
Ah Chee kicked 2 but was not a stand out and would struggle to be more effective that Langdon

No way the Angry Ant will allow Kelly going off the chain so expecting Worpel to tag him.

Defence (7)
Talls - Oscar and Edwards
Med/Sm - Sheppard Rotham Nelson Witherden and Cole

Rucks (2) - NicNat and Vardy

Mids (6)
Redden, Kelly Gaff, Sheed, Brander, Duggan

Forwards (7)
Talls - JK Darling
Med/Sm - Waterman, Jones, Cripps, Petruccelle, O'Neil

Langdon to the Medical Sub

 

[FKASC]

And the Yeo comparison is off - Yeo was only 20 when he joined us, Langdon is 25.

He also definitely wasn’t trash. Look at these stats in a losing away game vs Hawthorn in 2014

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2014/101820140607.html

23 touches, 8 marks, 7 clearances, 14 contested possessions and 3 contested marks.

Redden and Jetta were trash in their first years at WC

 

[GlennTwenty]

Why? Langdon is horrific anything is better

Surely 2 goals, 2 goal assists, 8 score involvements and a game high 21 sprint efforts is slightly better than horrific?

He's clearly not in our best 22 if we had a full squad to chose from but I thought he was servicable this week.

 

[FKASC]

Surely 2 goals, 2 goal assists, 8 score involvements and a game high 21 sprint efforts is slightly better than horrific?

He's clearly not in our best 22 if we had a full squad to chose from but I thought he was servicable this week.

One accidental goal tho

 

[Chris_6678]

Thought that goal ended up being credited to JK?

 

[shooshka]

Surely 2 goals, 2 goal assists, 8 score involvements and a game high 21 sprint efforts is slightly better than horrific?

He's clearly not in our best 22 if we had a full squad to chose from but I thought he was servicable this week.

I'm pretty sure I saw Langdon in a stat for top 5 in the league 'highest average speed in the attacking half'. Not sure if that was for a round (I think it was post round-5) or for the season.

Must have been a lot of moving at mid-high pace all the time (i.e. not a lot of walking) - because the reality is he isn't that quick (he's not treacle slow, but certainly not quick).

Also seems like the sort of stat Petch should really be high up in. Would show his workrate is where it needs to be

 

[pantskyle]

I think we'll lose this unfortunately. Too many injuries and on the road. Hopefully we keep winning our home games up until we get players back, and then finish as high as we can in the top 8.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Simmo seems to like Langdon, so probably not likely he gets dropped this week after a big win. Hopefully Camo will have another decent game to build his case for selection.

 

[Tugga27]

I think we'll lose this unfortunately. Too many injuries and on the road. Hopefully we keep winning our home games up until we get players back, and then finish as high as we can in the top 8.

TBF, we've played some pretty good footy on the road against decent opposition.

We should be getting it done against Hawthorn even with our injuries.

 

[WCErevival]

I think we'll lose this unfortunately. Too many injuries and on the road. Hopefully we keep winning our home games up until we get players back, and then finish as high as we can in the top 8.

Never change

 

[Chris_6678]

Hawks are so poo right now surely we win this...even if its scrappy.

 

[ep2018]

Am I having a stroke?

 

[DanWCE]

Am I having a stroke?

Depends, did you type that with one hand?

 

[pantskyle]

Never change

Not even for the better?

 

[Astro7]

TBF, we've played some pretty good footy on the road against decent opposition.

We should be getting it done against Hawthorn even with our injuries.

You'd think so, might be a bit of sticky cohesion amongst the boys after that win, some want to keep their spot in the team - it's a good opportunity to get a win-win.
The Little General and his poo-coloured minions will have other ideas of course.

 

[Campaigner for good]

Surely 2 goals, 2 goal assists, 8 score involvements and a game high 21 sprint efforts is slightly better than horrific?

He's clearly not in our best 22 if we had a full squad to chose from but I thought he was servicable this week.

Rationale well thought out post. My god man, the Internet is no place to be spewing that kind of stuff.

 

[WCErevival]

Not even for the better?

Maybe

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I'm pretty sure I saw Langdon in a stat for top 5 in the league 'highest average speed in the attacking half'. Not sure if that was for a round (I think it was post round-5) or for the season.

Must have been a lot of moving at mid-high pace all the time (i.e. not a lot of walking) - because the reality is he isn't that quick (he's not treacle slow, but certainly not quick).

Also seems like the sort of stat Petch should really be high up in. Would show his workrate is where it needs to be

Oh he definitely is trickle slow. Comfortable saying he's the slowest player I've ever seen, and we all had the pleasure of seeing Hamish Brayshaw running last year.

 

[RookiePick]

Oh he definitely is trickle slow. Comfortable saying he's the slowest player I've ever seen, and we all had the pleasure of seeing Hamish Brayshaw running last year.

Cole Trickle slow?

 

[Godfather32]

Why? Langdon is horrific anything is better

He's not fit and I think he could benefit from playing at the lower level and getting a bit more of the ball than he would in the AFL. He needs to get his touch back and get some confidence up.

 

[THE A5]

He's not fit and I think he could benefit from playing at the lower level and getting a bit more of the ball than he would in the AFL. He needs to get his touch back and get some confidence up.

Does Langdon have much scope for Improvement? His best footy was his first year and even then it wasn't overly great either. Like he isn't a kid anymore and the numbers do concern me. Cameron on the other hand copped a bit last year while fighting off injuries. He doesn't find a lot but defensively better and at 21 has a lot more room for injuries.

The pecking order for our depth smalls seems to be Petch,Jones,Cameron and then Langdon. Langdon doesn't really have much time to get things right cause both Rioli's return is imminent and Winder looks promising too.

 

[Godfather32]

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Does Langdon have much scope for Improvement? His best footy was his first year and even then it wasn't overly great either. Like he isn't a kid anymore and the numbers do concern me. Cameron on the other hand copped a bit last year while fighting off injuries. He doesn't find a lot but defensively better and at 21 has a lot more room for injuries.

The pecking order for our depth smalls seems to be Petch,Jones,Cameron and then Langdon. Langdon doesn't really have much time to get things right cause both Rioli's return is imminent and Winder looks promising too.

Sorry I was talking about Cameron, Langdon's a crab but I still wouldn't bring Cameron in yet.

 

[THE A5]

Sorry I was talking about Cameron, Langdon's a crab but I still wouldn't bring Cameron in yet.

oh yeah he lacks match fitness atm. He needs to string a few decent games together but it's not going to be easy with the side being so shite