Changes Vs Melbourne Round 20

[hellfire]

Pendlebury is obviously best 22, probably best 5 or 6 really.

I think he is best 2 or 3. In all seriousness - in terms of important, I think only Rocca, Fraser, Cloke, Heath and Jimmy are more important. But in terms of "best", I think he is top 3.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Judging by MM's comments post-match:

IN: Reid, Clarke, Buckley, Wellingham
OUT: Cloke, Thomas, Toovey, ?

 

[Pies_10]

My Team playing the Dees

Early but changes need to be made ive also put players where i think they should be
B:O'Brien Prestigicomo Cox
HB: H Shaw Clement B Johnson
C: Medhurst Burns Clarke
HF:Stanley Cloke Swan
F: Didak Rocca Thomas
R: Fraser O'Bree Davis
Int: Maxwell R Shaw Pendlebury Buckley
Emg: Wellingham Reid Iles
In: Stanley Pendlebury Buckley
Out:Licuria Bryan Toovey Cook
Others that could com in?? Dick(pace) Wellingham(pace) Reid(Pace)
Now first Medhurst got 27 possies at willy in the middle Stanley got dropped a while ago for what i wasnt sure. Pendles, they said early this week Pendles would play against Richmond which he didnt or next week against Melbourne so thats why i chose him. Bucks even 70% fit hes still better then most of our poor kicking forwards. oH we need pace hahaha
Thoughts??

 

[didaka]

Re: My Team playing the Dees

Well by the looks of it that side will be missing Johnson, Cloke, Thomas, and maybe even Heath Shaw as no one would have any idea of what may come out of that incident.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Re: My Team playing the Dees

Early but changes need to be made ive also put players where i think they should be
B:O'Brien Prestigicomo Cox
HB: H Shaw Clement B Johnson
C: Medhurst Burns Clarke
HF:Stanley Cloke Swan
F: Didak Rocca Thomas
R: Fraser O'Bree Davis
Int: Maxwell R Shaw Pendlebury Buckley
Emg: Wellingham Reid Iles
In: Stanley Pendlebury Buckley
Out:Licuria Bryan Toovey

You've added Cox and omitted Cook as well.

 

[ClarkeM]

Re: My Team playing the Dees

Well after that dismal game. We need the pace definately. They completely tore the ground and we had our heads looking backwards every second.

 

[Big Bucks]

Re: My Team playing the Dees

Early but changes need to be made ive also put players where i think they should be
B:O'Brien Prestigicomo Cox
HB: H Shaw Clement B Johnson
C: Medhurst Burns Clarke
HF:Stanley Cloke Swan
F: Didak Rocca Thomas
R: Fraser O'Bree Davis
Int: Maxwell R Shaw Pendlebury Buckley
Emg: Wellingham Reid Iles
In: Stanley Pendlebury Buckley
Out:Licuria Bryan Toovey Cook
Others that could com in?? Dick(pace) Wellingham(pace) Reid(Pace)
Now first Medhurst got 27 possies at willy in the middle Stanley got dropped a while ago for what i wasnt sure. Pendles, they said early this week Pendles would play against Richmond which he didnt or next week against Melbourne so thats why i chose him. Bucks even 70% fit hes still better then most of our poor kicking forwards. oH we need pace hahaha
Thoughts??

I like that team, the only adjustment i would make is
O`bree out , as far as possible would be preferable.
Wellingham IN.

 

[PieLebo87]

Re: My Team playing the Dees

Out; Cloke, Thomas, Johnson, H Shaw, Fraser, Swan, Goldsack (rested)
In; Cox, Iles, Clarke, Richards, Rusling, Dick, Wellingham

B: Clement, Presti, Iles
HB: Shaw, O'Brien, Cox
C: Wellingham, Licuria, Lockyer
HF: Dick, Bryan, Davis
F: Rusling, Rocca, Medhurst
R: Richards, Toovey, Clarke

Int: Maxwell, O'Bree, Burns, Cook

Rocca was close to getting the chop for Reid, but I thought we needed his experience since Buckley wasn't back yet. This is a team you're all most likely going to laugh off. But I would be naming this team, why?

Because we don't deserve to win the flag this year, because of our very own disgraceful performances. I've rested players that need a rest, and I've included players on form.

Richards doesn't deserve to come in on form, but Bryan doesn't deserve to even be in the team, but thanks to Malhouse's inteligence, we don't have ruckmen to choose from when Fraser needs to be rested.

You're all going to notice a few things.

1; Richards and Bryan have been given countless opportunities this year, but when have they played a game with their backs to the wall without Fraser there to rescue them? Never. This will be a chance to test them, alone.
It isn't tanking, its looking at your own list from a different angle, and we, at Collingwood, NEED this sort of game.

2a; Toovey. He is in the middle. Why? Because he was dreadful against Richmond. He does not deserve a chance to redeem himself, but this is a sport, its a game, it isn't life or death, we aren't playing to win a Premiership. lets throw him in the deep end again and see if he can redeem himself. I know (if Ive been reading BF this week) there wouldn't be anyone at Collingwood who'd want to get BOG next week then Alan Toovey, lets see what the kids got when he is placed in this situation.

2b; Licuria. I heard someone mention we are lacking hard-bodies. Well MM should stop friggen playing Licuria as an outside winger who runs around. I haven't seen him being utilised as a hard player in the middle, thats why he is at centre, to be in the bottom of packs, feeding out the handballs. Im with a few of you that he is past it, but you are being unfair in that he isn't being given his fair opportunity by MM. As usually, MM loves ruining careers by trying to be 'innovative' with positions. (Ie; Jason Cloke in the forward line)

3; Wellingham, Dick, Iles and Cook in the same team, handful of experience between them. But if Carlton can do it, and JUST lose against teams like Port and St Kilda with kids, then why can't we tread on water in a similiar manner. Lets see what these kids have got.

4; No Didak back. Resting big names. Well why? We are still in contention for a top 4, and we are definitely still in the top 8 at the moment. We are a very small chance to win the Premiership. No. We don't deserve that opportunity this season, because I, as a fan, wouldn't be AS PROUD, if we're up there on that last day of September, celebrating, knowing that Richmond, Melbourne and co could manage a win against us. And we couldn't beat WCE in Subi, and we couldn't beat Geelong in our backyard. So if we are to do it, we do it the hard way, earn respect. If this team can win against Melbourne, then we DEFINITELY deserve to have a shot at the 4, we definitely deserve to have a shot at the Holy Grail.

A lot of you will disagree, but I have this way of thinking, and it is my view, its not fact. Its an opinion.

Thoughts?

 

[pipeline]

In Wellingahm, Stanley, Didak, Pendlebury, Clarke Rusling/Buckley



Stanley: Little hard nut need someone like that terribly now.

Hard nut alright, but little? 6 foot 2 and 90 Kg's! Also a beautiful deliverer of the ball and v strong overhead. In good form too and hard to work out why he hasn't been back earlier.

 

[PieLebo87]

As was posted on the 'My Team playing the Dees' thread. This is my team against Melbourne;

Out; Cloke, Thomas, Johnson, H Shaw, Fraser, Swan, Goldsack (rested)
In; Cox, Iles, Clarke, Richards, Rusling, Dick, Wellingham

B: Clement, Presti, Iles
HB: Shaw, O'Brien, Cox
C: Wellingham, Licuria, Lockyer
HF: Dick, Bryan, Davis
F: Rusling, Rocca, Medhurst
R: Richards, Toovey, Clarke

Int: Maxwell, O'Bree, Burns, Cook

Rocca was close to getting the chop for Reid, but I thought we needed his experience since Buckley wasn't back yet. This is a team you're all most likely going to laugh off. But I would be naming this team, why?

Because we don't deserve to win the flag this year, because of our very own disgraceful performances. I've rested players that need a rest, and I've included players on form.

Richards doesn't deserve to come in on form, but Bryan doesn't deserve to even be in the team, but thanks to Malhouse's inteligence, we don't have ruckmen to choose from when Fraser needs to be rested.

You're all going to notice a few things.

1; Richards and Bryan have been given countless opportunities this year, but when have they played a game with their backs to the wall without Fraser there to rescue them? Never. This will be a chance to test them, alone.
It isn't tanking, its looking at your own list from a different angle, and we, at Collingwood, NEED this sort of game.

2a; Toovey. He is in the middle. Why? Because he was dreadful against Richmond. He does not deserve a chance to redeem himself, but this is a sport, its a game, it isn't life or death, we aren't playing to win a Premiership. lets throw him in the deep end again and see if he can redeem himself. I know (if Ive been reading BF this week) there wouldn't be anyone at Collingwood who'd want to get BOG next week then Alan Toovey, lets see what the kids got when he is placed in this situation.

2b; Licuria. I heard someone mention we are lacking hard-bodies. Well MM should stop friggen playing Licuria as an outside winger who runs around. I haven't seen him being utilised as a hard player in the middle, thats why he is at centre, to be in the bottom of packs, feeding out the handballs. Im with a few of you that he is past it, but you are being unfair in that he isn't being given his fair opportunity by MM. As usually, MM loves ruining careers by trying to be 'innovative' with positions. (Ie; Jason Cloke in the forward line)

3; Wellingham, Dick, Iles and Cook in the same team, handful of experience between them. But if Carlton can do it, and JUST lose against teams like Port and St Kilda with kids, then why can't we tread on water in a similiar manner. Lets see what these kids have got.

4; No Didak back. Resting big names. Well why? We are still in contention for a top 4, and we are definitely still in the top 8 at the moment. We are a very small chance to win the Premiership. No. We don't deserve that opportunity this season, because I, as a fan, wouldn't be AS PROUD, if we're up there on that last day of September, celebrating, knowing that Richmond, Melbourne and co could manage a win against us. And we couldn't beat WCE in Subi, and we couldn't beat Geelong in our backyard. So if we are to do it, we do it the hard way, earn respect. If this team can win against Melbourne, then we DEFINITELY deserve to have a shot at the 4, we definitely deserve to have a shot at the Holy Grail.

A lot of you will disagree, but I have this way of thinking, and it is my view, its not fact. Its an opinion.

Thoughts?

 

[Optimax]

Hard nut alright, but little? 6 foot 2 and 90 Kg's! Also a beautiful deliverer of the ball and v strong overhead. In good form too and hard to work out why he hasn't been back earlier.

Well its timne to ****en stick him in the centre then

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Hard nut alright, but little? 6 foot 2 and 90 Kg's! Also a beautiful deliverer of the ball and v strong overhead. In good form too and hard to work out why he hasn't been back earlier.

I agree that he should be in, I like what I've seen of Stanley, but to call him a "beautiful deliverer of the ball" is at odds with the common perception around here that he rivals Mark McGough in kicking prowess.

 

[Jabso]

Stanley's kicking in the AFL has defied his kicking in the VFL (very hit and miss) in the AFL he has been very clean.

In: Cox, Clarke, Didak, Reid
Out: Licuria, Johnson (rest/susp), Toovey, Goldsack (rest)

If Pendles is right then Cook or even Swan (rested) could go out. Wellingham is a chance but if Toovey and Sack are to be out then we need a defender in Cox especially with Meldbournes small forwards.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I don't think the Sack will be rested. He had 8 tackles on Friday night. He's doing fine.

Malthouse looks determined to rest Cloke, which would make Reid's inclusion a monty. If he also rests Thomas, bring Wellingham in pronto.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

I don't think the Sack will be rested. He had 8 tackles on Friday night. He's doing fine.

Malthouse looks determined to rest Cloke, which would make Reid's inclusion a monty. If he also rests Thomas, bring Wellingham in pronto.

If MM rests Cloke or Thomas, he should be straight-jacketed and institutionalized immediately. Thomas was one of our better players on Friday night. In fact, his second quarter was scintillating. And Cloke kicked four goals against Carlton the match before.

If they're tired, fine, give them a light week on the training track. But resting two key players like Thomas and Cloke is too smart by half.

Hopefully, sanity will prevail.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Again, just making reference to MM's comments. I'm not sanctioning them. I was at the game and Thomas was awesome, I had him second in my votes despite the fact that he only really had one solid quarter.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Again, just making reference to MM's comments. I'm not sanctioning them. I was at the game and Thomas was awesome, I had him second in my votes despite the fact that he only really had one solid quarter.

I know, Sampler. I was commenting on MM's post-match remarks. It was in no way an attack on you.

 

[Jabso]

I just forgot that Lonie should be back this week. IMO we should rest Johnson, he is struggling big time and get Lonie or even Cook to take on his role just to get them to step up.

By the way I merged this thread with "My team vs. Melbourne" thread, please try to find a thread like this before posting your own one, it not only looks messy but your posts don't get read.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Well, if Lonie's back, we should be right.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

LOL. If Lonie has OP, there's no guarantee of him being back at any particular time. We'll have to wait and see.

Palmer Stoat: Sorry for getting defensive.

 

[Shotgun Rider]

Ins: Didak, Pendlebury, Clarke & Dick
Outs: Toovey, Licuria, Goldsack (rested) & Medhurst/B Johnson (if Suspended

 

[jerry springer]

i dont really give too hoots who we bring in but can the 22 that we pick please be half fit at least.I know players get niggly injuries but we cant afford to keep carrying players who are (A).unfit and (B).out of form

 

[Kirk Hinrich #12]

In: Buckley, Didak, Clarke, Pendlebury, Richards, Brown
Out: Medhurst, Toovey, Goldsack, Licuria, Bryan, Cook

Medhurst - Kicked a few but still average other than just another passanger.
Toovey - My goodness he was woeful
Goldsack - Possibly the worst player to debut this year has the worst disposal of the footy since Andrew Dunkley
Licuria - Thanks Licca but a true club man like yourself will stand down at the end of the year
Bryan - Carlton were right he is crap and Cam Cloke would of been a better option
Cook - Not quiet there I think he will be a very good contributor next year


Bucks in for Medhurst play up forward will be at least an inspiration to play for
Didak in to provide the spark up forward
Clarke at least has some skill and runs hard
Pendles for a touch of class
Richards for a back up ruck man
Brown stuff it why not give another kid a chance


I would also consider Ried coming in for Bryan instead of Richards

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Goldsack - Possibly the worst player to debut this year has the worst disposal of the footy since Andrew Dunkley

Is that a joke?

 

[giantpie]

is pendles a chance? In: Bucks,Pendles,Didak,Richards,Clarke
out: Bryan,Toovey,Cook,Medhurst,Licuria