Changes Vs Pies next week

[PHX]

Didn't Hyde kill it in the reserves? How'd he do tonight?
We got to many that 'play for the team' how many tiger players at the moment take the game by the claws? Put him in the richmond side and if we're losing will he stand up?
He's done nothing when he's been given a shot, that's just my opinion though.

So if Hyde cant do it no one can.

That is ridiculous.

He may not make but FFS thats no reason to say he wont because last year wasnt great. At that rate all kids would be "duds" in the AFL

Its a new season, the perfect time after a pre-season for a player to turn it around and White is without a doubt one the guys with the biggest determination down there.

He's knocking on the door.

 

[sante]

After listening to Terry's press conference I'd say;

OUT: Hyde, Pettifer, Raines, Hughes
IN: Johnson, Morton, Riewoldt and Tivendale

Tuck, McMahon and Polak are under pressure.

 

[Deledio2Conca]

Not tivendale,connors yes.

I really dont want to see an unfit Connors running around with us just yet.

 

[Coach_Required]

OUT:
Raines
Hughes
Polo
Hyde

IN:
Johnson
Morton
McGuane (We need someone to go back now Raines and Polo probably wont play next week and Ir eckon he is the best bet.)
Riewoldt

OUTS: Agree with Hyde and Hughes, but I would also send a message to some of our seniors like Pettifer who didnt use his brain today. Raines ofcourse due to injury.

I'd leave Polo in as he has only just came back

INS: Agree with Morton, Johnson, McGuane & Riewoldt should be included against the Pies

 

[Richo Man]

So if Hyde cant do it no one can.

That is ridiculous.

He may not make but FFS thats no reason to say he wont because last year wasnt great. At that rate all kids would be "duds" in the AFL

Its a new season, the perfect time after a pre-season for a player to turn it around and White is without a doubt one the guys with the biggest determination down there.

He's knocking on the door.

No I'm not trying to say that if Hyde cant do it no one can. Im trying to say that if someone kills it in the reserves what makes you think they're just gunna be absolute freaks when playing AFL. They're 2 completely different levels of footy and some are good enough for VFL but not good enough for AFL.
And that's where White and Hyde come in.
That's our problem we fall in love with our players too much.
I hope I'm wrong and White shows something but right now I don't want him in my side. If he plays 5 or 6 good games at AFL level then i'll sort of start to change my mind. But he's shown me nothing.

 

[richmondkickass2]

I would like to swing the axe as well.
In
Kane Johnson
Mitch Morton
Greg Tivendale
Jack Riewoldt
Matthew White
Shane Edwards
Luke MGuane

out
Andrew Raines Injured
Chris Hyde
Cleve Hughes
Dean Polo
Jordan Mcmahon
Daniel Jackson

B Moore Thursfield MGuane
HB Bowden Polak King
C Newman Johnson Tivendale
HF Pettifer Richo Brown
F Riewoldt Schulz Morton
R Simmonds Foley Dellido
int White Edwards Pattison Tambling

 

[Tigerland2007]

Polo spent a fair bit of time off the ground and then when he moved onto Grant after hed kicked 4 goals, he did a good job, didnt let grant kick another one, and he did a couple of good spoils on him. Does not deserve to be dropped

Im worried about our forward line, no crumber, and if we bring in morton it still doesnt give us a crumbing option from outside the team

Id use tambling as that crumbing forward, i think hes better across half forward and in the pocket than in the guts, Johnson back into the middle, Tivendale to the wing, Joel Bowden back to the backline

White could be used as as backman or wing

In: white, Tivendale, Morton, Johnson
Out: Hughes, Raines, Hyde, McMahon

B: Moore, Thursfield, White
HB: J.Bowden, Polak, King
C: Newman, Johnson, Tivendale
HF: PEttifer, Richo, Brown
F: Tambling, Schulz, Morton
R: Simmonds, Foley, Deledio
Int: Polo, Tuck, Pattison,

 

[Tigerland2007]

Jackson on the pine too

 

[Rayzorwire]

Polo: Did nothing, highly overrated on this board

You mean he was better than senior players like Brown, Bowden, and far better than McMahon, despite a very limited pre-season and this being his first game back? Tagging well, making spoils, playing tight on a man and holding up a couple of goals one on one is more than any of the above senior players did all game.

How about the concept of putting the blame on the senior players who are AWOL almost every single loss, or busy playing cheap stat whores?

Brown, McMahon and Bowden were useless tonight, and far worse, they were the epitome of lazy.

- Jake King had a shocker giving up about 6-10 goals. But he still tried, needs a couple of solid weeks to consolidate

Why not crank it up to 20 goals while you're at it?

King got moved to Jones because Jones made Raines look inept twice in the first two minutes. Then King gets the privilege of inheriting Raines' tally of goals against. Then Raines turns the ball over with another mongrel float punt, and Jones is on the end of it again - but it's King's fault because he's playing on him, Raines is a great kick and it was just unfortunate three Kangaroos had time to reach the poor bugger who got 'Rainsed' waiting for the ball. How many other times do you think King got put in the gun with zero support around him due to a turnover?

How about we start blaming the blokes who consistently turn the ball over under no pressure, rather than expect defenders to be supermen?

- Jordan McMohan was the biggest waste of pick 18 or 19 ever. I can tell he will be the typical "up when where up" and "down when where down player." Should be given no immunity and if he continues with performances like today he should be dropped

Yep, couldn't agree more. Was willing to give him a chance, but he's already on thin ice.

 

[PHX]

No I'm not trying to say that if Hyde cant do it no one can. Im trying to say that if someone kills it in the reserves what makes you think they're just gunna be absolute freaks when playing AFL. They're 2 completely different levels of footy and some are good enough for VFL but not good enough for AFL.
And that's where White and Hyde come in.
That's our problem we fall in love with our players too much.
I hope I'm wrong and White shows something but right now I don't want him in my side. If he plays 5 or 6 good games at AFL level then i'll sort of start to change my mind. But he's shown me nothing.

How can you put Hyde and White together?

WHite is 20 years old, Hyde is 25. Hyde should be at his peak now, White should be starting to head towards his best this year but isnt at his best like Hyde.

Also how can you say "If he plays 5 or 6 good games at AFL level then i'll sort of start to change my mind." when you arent even willing to give him ONE game of AFL football.

 

[Richo Man]

How can you put Hyde and White together?

WHite is 20 years old, Hyde is 25. Hyde should be at his peak now, White should be starting to head towards his best this year but isnt at his best like Hyde.

Also how can you say "If he plays 5 or 6 good games at AFL level then i'll sort of start to change my mind." when you arent even willing to give him ONE game of AFL football.

I'm not willing to give him a game but that doesnt mean the club wont. My thoughts are he shouldnt get a game. Do you really think the club will listen to me?
I put them together because it's the exact same thing where everyone last week was like, put Hyde in put Hyde in and now it's gone to White and I don't reckon he'll do much when he is in anyway kind of like how Hyde didn't do much either.

 

[PHX]

I'm not willing to give him a game but that doesnt mean the club wont. My thoughts are he shouldnt get a game. Do you really think the club will listen to me?
I put them together because it's the exact same thing where everyone last week was like, put Hyde in put Hyde in and now it's gone to White and I don't reckon he'll do much when he is in anyway kind of like how Hyde didn't do much either.

No but I read it differently.

I cant remember Hyde getting mass support last week. Most people hate hyde.

 

[_RT_]

Changes for next week if I was picking the team right now:
B: Moore Thursfield King
HB: Newman Polak Bowden
C: Deledio Johnson Jackson
HF: Morton Richo Tambling
F: Brown Schulz Hughes
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Pattison White McMahon Polo
E: Riewoldt Tivendale Edwards

In: Bolded Out: Pettifer Hyde (omit) Raines (injured)

 

[marco polo]

Out:.....................In:
Hyde....................Morton
Raines (inj.)...........Johnson
Pettifer.................Riewoldt
McMahon..............White

 

[Accepted 04]

Outs:
McMahon
Hyde
Raines (inj)
Pettifer

Ins:
Morton
Riewoldt
White
Johnson

Connors becomes emergancy

 

[OFFtheBALL]

Before hyde is ousted TAMBLING should be! WAS DISGRACEFUL TODAY! DISGRACEFUL! Alot worse than last week!

Morton, Johnson and White in next week for Raines (injured), Tambling (omitted) and possibly Hyde.

Deledio into the midfield (come on 11 possies in the last quarter there), Morton can play his forward role just as well! White definitely deserves a spot after yesterday, looked a lot better, ALOT!

BTW those who are saying the likes of Connors and Edwards should come in obviously didn't watch the game yesterday. Both didn't do enough to warrant a spot. White was BRILLIANT!

PERFECT !! make richcogs selector

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

King got moved to Jones because Jones made Raines look inept twice in the first two minutes. Then King gets the privilege of inheriting Raines' tally of goals against. Then Raines turns the ball over with another mongrel float punt, and Jones is on the end of it again - but it's King's fault because he's playing on him, Raines is a great kick and it was just unfortunate three Kangaroos had time to reach the poor bugger who got 'Rainsed' waiting for the ball. How many other times do you think King got put in the gun with zero support around him due to a turnover?

How about we start blaming the blokes who consistently turn the ball over under no pressure, rather than expect defenders to be supermen?

Have to agree
The irony of it all is the way he injured himself.

 

[Truetiger]

Out - Raines(inj)
- Hughes
- Polo
- Pettifer


In - Morton
Riewoldt
White
Johnson

 

[Truetiger]

Changes for next week if I was picking the team right now:
B: Moore Thursfield King
HB: Newman Polak Bowden
C: Deledio Johnson Jackson
HF: Morton Richo Tambling
F: Brown Schulz Hughes
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Pattison White McMahon Polo
E: Riewoldt Tivendale Edwards

In: Bolded Out: Pettifer Hyde (omit) Raines (injured)

So although Jack Riewoldt is kicking arse for coburg and Hughes continues to miss goal after goal. Its not enough for a swap there?

 

[Richo Man]

No but I read it differently.

I cant remember Hyde getting mass support last week. Most people hate hyde.

I really cant be bothered looking into it to see the amount of people who wanted Hyde to come in, but from memory I believe there was a fair few. I could be wrong who cares.

 

[RichosGuns]

Can't see players like Pettifer and Brown being dropped

Hughes may be selected to continue development.

 

[08yearofthetiger]

I feel the selectors and TW needs to make it clear that if you dont play for the jumper or the club that you are back to the 2s ( Hyde and Pettifer)
This year unlike last we have the depth and players coming that will place pressure onto the startring 22.

FB King Bowden Moore
FF Davis Rocca Didak

HB Newman Thursfield Mc Mahon
HF Thomas Cloke Medhurst

C Jackson Deledio Polo
C Lockyer Pendlebury Swan

HF Morton Richo Tambling
HB Shaw N Brown R Shaw

FF Brown Shultz Hughes
FB Obrien Wakelin Maxwell

R Simmonds Foley Johnson
R Fraser Burns Obree

B Pattison Polak Tuck White
B Wood Johnson Clarke Reid

E Tivendale Pettifer Edwards
E Egan Holland Toovey

IN Morton Johnson White
OUT Pettifer Raines Hyde

• Johnson takes Raines place pushing Newman and Bowden back to Hb flanks we actually missed Johnsons hard ball gets this week.
• Morton shown good form in the VFL while Pettifer has played 2 poor games reward good form.
• Hyde misses targets to much while White played an excellent game in the VFL reward good form.

UNDER PRESSURE
Polak McMahon Tuck

• Johnsons inclusion pushes Newman and Bowden back to their regular positions on the flank.
• Deledio moves into the centre while Tambling goes to HF to inject some pace and crumbing.
• Morton takes up pettifers role as the lead up forward.
• Polo tags Swan
• Thursfield takes Cloke, Bowden on Rocca
• Collingwood on paper looks similar to the roos a very strong in and under team with players such as Burns OBree Lockyer Swan but we need to look to use our pace throuh the clearances it was not until the last quater against the roos that we did this.

 

[_RT_]

So although Jack Riewoldt is kicking arse for coburg and Hughes continues to miss goal after goal. Its not enough for a swap there?

Posted earlier that Riewoldt needs to back up with another performance before we just hand out a senior spot. Hughes is missing goals and that hurts but he is still getting the shots ( 5 shots on goal in 2 games from limited opportunities is decent enough). Morton kicked 7 a couple of weeks back and backed it up with another 7 on the weekend, so deserves a game and to fit him in I would give Petts the chop, lets everyone know that your spot is gone if you don't pull your weight.

 

[Accepted 04]

My Team:

B: King Thursfield Moore
HB: Bowden Schulz White
C: Newman Foley Polo
HF: Morton Richo Deliedo
F: Brown Hughes Riewoldt
Foll: Simmonds Tuck Johnson
Inter: Polak Pattison Tambling Jackson
Emg: Connors Tivendale McGuane

Outs: McMahon, Raines, Hyde and Pettifer
Ins: Riewoldt, Morton, White and Johnson

 

[Simche]

I for one think Hughes should be dropped. Whilst he has done some good things in his time in and shown some courage he is still a fairly dumb footballer consistently going to the wrong places. Couple this with the fact that he let his opponent run off him a fair few times on the weekend and I'm more inclined to have Riewoldt in who has some footy smarts about him. As for the consistency argument as to why Riewoldt should stay in the twoes I cannot for the life of me recall the game where Hughes kicked 6 because it didn't happen and the only reason he's in the seniors is because we're desperate for him to show that he can actually make the grade. Back to Coburg for him and make him really earn another call up.

Morton comes in, that goes without saying. All the calls for Pettifer to be axed are a bit premature for mine he's worked up the currency to afford one bad game though he wouldn't want to go missing against collingwood.
Hyde is finished, one paced, one trick pony that has never been the same since he smashed his head in I expect him to come out for Morton.

Tivendale will come in for Raines (much as I hate it) and take over from him in that winger/half back role. If we were being serious about moving forward Tivers would stay where he is unless he pulled it off 2 weeks running and Matt White would come in.

Can see Whitey coming in just a matter of who for. There are plenty of blokes that deserved to be dropped but lots that I can't see it happening to. McMahon would be one, Polo (though he did sort of salvage himself towards the end of the match) another. Most likely Polo for mine just because I've heard there is an attitude issue with Polo or at least some angst between him and the coaching staff (this is unsubstantiated just what I've heard through the grapevine).