Opinion Changes vs Port

[Cap]

thought I would come check out the thoughts on how you guys would line up for this week

read this post and gave up .........

good.

don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[MRB37]

Nah good teams don't tag.

A statement which infuriates me to no end. Look at Carlton last week. Up until half time they were doing well keeping it close since they had both Boak and Ebert pretty well stitched up. If they had of had the manpower to keep Westhoff in check, they could have been an extra 3-4 goals ahead at that time.

 

[Jumbo]

I'd like Crowley tagging for Port

 

[GROTTO]

It was bad luck, elbow bent weird in a tackling contest, if the ump had of paid the free the first time the guy tried to break a tackle and failed, it wouldn't have happened.

This would have taken momentum away from the Cats.

I dont underestimate the poor umpiring last night, had we had our share of free kicks things could have been far different. (only one obvious one they missed for us was the Thommo throw in the 4th I think)

Momentum and confidence when traveling away is very important.

 

[GROTTO]

thought I would come check out the thoughts on how you guys would line up for this week

read this post and gave up .........

Correct +1 just bullshit.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

A statement which infuriates me to no end. Look at Carlton last week. Up until half time they were doing well keeping it close since they had both Boak and Ebert pretty well stitched up. If they had of had the manpower to keep Westhoff in check, they could have been an extra 3-4 goals ahead at that time.

Either Geelong are an ordinary team which has got lucky over the past 8 years, or Guthrie did a really shitty job of going head to head with Dangerfield.

 

[GROTTO]

I'd like Crowley tagging for Port

Crowley is a brilliant player that should have made the ALL-AUSTRALIAN.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Kane, who do you think the crows best matchup is for Westhoff?

Geez, I wish we had Otten...

I would be tempted to try CEY. Has the size & we have been running him through the midfield in pre-season. Not sure Hartigan has the agility. I would not discount Smith either, as he can play tall & do some damage running the other way.

Shaw will get slaughtered IMO.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Crowley is a brilliant player that should have made the ALL-AUSTRALIAN.

Yep he could have tagged the oppositions best player.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Geez, I wish we had Otten...

I would be tempted to try CEY. Has the size & we have been running him through the midfield in pre-season. Not sure Hartigan has the agility. I would not discount Smith either, as he can play tall & do some damage running the other way.

Shaw will get slaughtered IMO.

Shaw is not a bad footballer. Looked like a bit of a plonker last night, but he can actually play. We shouldn't write him off too soon.

 

[MRB37]

Either Geelong are an ordinary team which has got lucky over the past 8 years, or Guthrie did a really shitty job of going head to head with Dangerfield.

Exactly, it seems like such a bizarre statement to make. Freo use Crowley, Geelong used Guthrie or Hunt, Collingwood use Macaffer, Port have Cassisi or Cornes, Hawthorn use Shiels, Sydney use Bird, it's not like tagging is something that only strugglign sides use to try and even things up. I remember reading that basically only Richmond, West Coast and Gold Coast were the only teams that didn't tag frequently last year.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Shaw is not a bad footballer. Looked like a bit of a plonker last night, but he can actually play. We shouldn't write him off too soon.

He is just not AFL ready yet - way too many flaws to his game.

There is just no way we can consider him for Westoff unless we are tanking already...

 

[MRB37]

He is just not AFL ready yet - way too many flaws to his game.

There is just no way we can consider him for Westoff unless we are tanking already...

Hartigan the answer?

 

[Elder van Berlo]

If it was easy to find a matchup for the opposition's best player, they probably wouldn't be the opposition's best player.

 

[GROTTO]

If it was easy to find a matchup for the opposition's best player, they probably wouldn't be the opposition's best player.

FFS - Do you even follow football? What do you think happens to the best players at opposition Clubs all year?

 

[Wood_Duck]

He is just not AFL ready yet - way too many flaws to his game.

There is just no way we can consider him for Westoff unless we are tanking already...

He seemed ready 2 years ago. Im not saying he is the guy for Westhoff. Talia will obviously take him

 

[Jumbo]

If it was easy to find a matchup for the opposition's best player, they probably wouldn't be the opposition's best player.

If we had Crowley his matchup would be easy to pick

 

[Elder van Berlo]

FFS - Do you even follow football? What do you think happens to the best players at opposition Clubs all year?

Presumably, they play better than their teammates. That's why they are their teams' best players.

 

[PKnox]

Lyons had 4 clearances in his quarter and and half in the game. Would like to see Sando have some faith and stick him in the guts for a whole game. The guy is a bit slow, and lacks experience, but he is a clearance machine.

 

[PKnox]

We have one real trump card heading into next weekend - underdog status. We're still going to have 7 first team players out - whereas Ports Powas will be be close to full strength. Not to mention how confident the toofless flogs down the road are all of a sudden after beating a woeful Carlton.

Come Saturday arvo, can Port deal with overwhelming favoritism? Or will they choke like they've done under real pressure like they've done for the last decade?

 

[cmndstab]

Lyons is a player who can only play well in one role, playing in an era where players are expected to rotate and adapt.

The club needs to decide whether they're happy for him to just sit in the guts all day doing what he does, or not play him at all. Using him as a sub, or moving him around the ground, is not playing into his abilities at all. Either he's good enough to spend the whole game in the engine room (and have us cop whatever hit to our structure that entails), or he's not.

 

[beartoo]

Lyons is a player who can only play well in one role, playing in an era where players are expected to rotate and adapt.

The club needs to decide whether they're happy for him to just sit in the guts all day doing what he does, or not play him at all. Using him as a sub, or moving him around the ground, is not playing into his abilities at all. Either he's good enough to spend the whole game in the engine room (and have us cop whatever hit to our structure that entails), or he's not.

I thought he'd played some okay minutes up forward in his short (so far) Journey?

 

[cmndstab]

He's got the ability to do some good things up forward, yes, but I doubt he could do it regularly. As soon as it became a common tactic I suspect clubs would find him fairly easy to shut down. He's not super fit so he won't win the ball by repeat leading, he's not that fast so a defender can stick with him, and he's not particularly tall so he can't outbody them. He might get under their guard because they're busy focusing on our dedicated forwards but that's not a long-term positional strategy.

His main ability is reading the ball off ruckman's hands, knowledge of what's going on around him, and the wherewithal to make a good choice of disposal in traffic. He's an old-fashioned, footballer's footballer. Unfortunately, without copious athletic gifts to go along with it, those skills are only really useful nowadays if he plays right in the guts.

Of course, that doesn't mean he can't be useful up forward, when there are stoppages in our forward line. Hopefully that's another area where the recruitment of Betts will help us out - creating stoppage situations up forward for the likes of Dangerfield, Crouch (1 + 2) and Lyons to shark a goal or two.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Lyons is a player who can only play well in one role, playing in an era where players are expected to rotate and adapt.

The club needs to decide whether they're happy for him to just sit in the guts all day doing what he does, or not play him at all. Using him as a sub, or moving him around the ground, is not playing into his abilities at all. Either he's good enough to spend the whole game in the engine room (and have us cop whatever hit to our structure that entails), or he's not.

Lyons showed last year he can kick goals when up forward, so he I no 1 trick-pony.

 

[joejoe]

Im worried about the midfield battle, who the hell do we tag, boak, ebert or polec, then if wines is allowed off the leash he is dangerous, not to mention grey and wingard running through there, they wont even bother going to thomo, so danger is going to have to deal with kane cornes, dont even want to think about westhoff floating around like a bad smell.

Jacobs will own lobbee, hes back in form, and our forward line should be to big for their young backline

Hoping for rain to slow them down, if we can make it a dog fight we can do it.

Crows by 13