changes vs richmond

[hird+lloyd=legends]

Instead of: Out: Davey (suspended) how aboout......Out: Davey (Omitted)

Sick of his useless disposals and reckless turnovers. In jetta hurley though

Yeah ok smart, drop our best tackler and pressuring machine. Daveys in the top 5 most important players for us.

 

[Daytripper]

In: Jetta, Hurley

Out: Zaha (rest), Bellchambers (no need for a 2nd ruckman against Richmond)

Why does Zaka get a rest and Myers doesn't ?

Seriously.

Forget about their draft position for a change and look at their output. There is no comparison.

 

[Sigmund]

Why does Zaka get a rest and Myers doesn't ?

Seriously.

Forget about their draft position for a change and look at their output. There is no comparison.

Although I think DT is too harsh on Myers, I do agree with this statement

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Why does Zaka get a rest and Myers doesn't ?

Seriously.

Forget about their draft position for a change and look at their output. There is no comparison.

It is a management issue. geelong rested Selwood in his first year. Zaka has played a lot of high intensity back to back games. I would like him to just have a rest from this one. That is all. It is not about draft positions, it is about list management. The last thing we need is another soft tissue injury due to poor list management of our youngsters. Giving Zaka a rest is not that bad, and against the Tigers is probably the best time to do this. Could also enable Myers to play in the middle.

 

[lamaros]

Why does Zaka get a rest and Myers doesn't ?

Seriously.

Forget about their draft position for a change and look at their output. There is no comparison.

Because Myers is getting better with each game and Zaha is getting worse.
Because Myers is playing a defensive role and doing well with it, and Zaha is playing midfield/forward.
Because Zaha is only seeing the ball a little bit more than Myers, but is using it worse.

Because you change a team based on your Ins as well as your Outs. Jetta deserves to come back and can play Zaha's role. Hurley deserves to come in and I think Houli is a weaker link in the back formation because of his clangers and defensive play than Myers.

 

[Daytripper]

It is a management issue. geelong rested Selwood in his first year. Zaka has played a lot of high intensity back to back games. I would like him to just have a rest from this one. That is all. It is not about draft positions, it is about list management. The last thing we need is another soft tissue injury due to poor list management of our youngsters. Giving Zaka a rest is not that bad, and against the Tigers is probably the best time to do this. Could also enable Myers to play in the middle.

So what you're saying is that Zaka has been playing at high intensity and Myers hasn't.

Yet, we should drop the kid who has been outperforming the other (by about 3 times IMO) to give him a rest just in case he gets injured,

Mindblowing.....

 

[Daytripper]

Because Myers is getting better with each game and Zaha is getting worse.

Irrelevant. One is coming off a very high base and one is coming off a very lw base.

Because Myers is playing a defensive role and doing well with it, and Zaha is playing midfield/forward.

8 possisions in a game of football. Presti does better.

Because Zaha is only seeing the ball a little bit more than Myers, but is using it worse.

rubbish

Because you change a team based on your Ins as well as your Outs. Jetta deserves to come back and can play Zaha's role. Hurley deserves to come in and I think Houli is a weaker link in the back formation because of his clangers and defensive play than Myers.

Reasonable comment

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So what you're saying is that Zaka has been playing at high intensity and Myers hasn't.

Yet, we should drop the kid who has been outperforming the other (by about 3 times IMO) to give him a rest just in case he gets injured,

Mindblowing.....

This is the reason why our youngsters keep getting soft tissue injuries. You give them a taste, then you rest them. A first year player should have a week or two off a year. If not, they are prone to soft tissue injuries and OP. Neither are good injuries. There is nothing wrong from resting a first year player. Zaka will come back the following week refreshed and ready to go.

 

[Daytripper]

This is the reason why our youngsters keep getting soft tissue injuries. You give them a taste, then you rest them. A first year player should have a week or two off a year. If not, they are prone to soft tissue injuries and OP. Neither are good injuries. There is nothing wrong from resting a first year player. Zaka will come back the following week refreshed and ready to go.

You dont drop players just in case they might get an injury.

Poor Cyril Rioli wouldn't have played in the GF last year with your mindset.

Zaka stays. He's a good yong player.

 

[bomberstomake8]

No change

Although Hurley has been good in the vfl it wouldnt be great for team structure imo.

Richmond dont really have a big key forward at the moment so having hurley pears and hooker would be a very tall backline for a small forward line, therefore i would stick with the more agile myers.

I thought bellchambers was pretty bad tonight and the only change i am considering at the momment is in hurley out bellchambers and hooker to play in the ruck however i am reluctant to move hooker because he has been playing so well.

 

[marcuz]

Jetta has to play next week, id chain him to neagle and say you be his sidekick all match.

Too many times we kicked to contests with nobody front and square. usually Davey would be there but the poor bastard is usually up on the wing chasing somebody down.

 

[Knight Ryders]

Out: Myers, NLM, Davey (if suspended)
In: Hurley, Slattery, Jetta (see above)

Form must be honoured and by all reports, Slattery has been awesome. I would like to see Hurley get a run across half forward and hopefully provide Lloyd with some more support across the half forward line. Slattery also releases McPhee to the wing, where I thought he was very good late in the match.

Also, Bellchambers must play next week even if he has low TOG. Ryder is not superman and we should not even think about moving Hooker from CHB - he has been superb the last few weeks.

 

[essendon2008]

Jetta has to play next week, id chain him to neagle and say you be his sidekick all match.

Too many times we kicked to contests with nobody front and square. usually Davey would be there but the poor bastard is usually up on the wing chasing somebody down.

Totally agree, all match i was sick of Neagle trying his heart out and getting beaten easily once it hit the deck. Neagle was continuously double and triple manned and we needed a small at his feet. Even if Jetta doesn't leave the forward 50 all match i would be happy if he crumbs and provides defensive pressure.

 

[GoDons]

Didn't think Myers was that bad today.

Stats sheet is disappointing, but filled a role in defence and helped out his teammates. To fit the structure, we'd have to replace him with one of Nash/Atkinson/T.Slattery, and personally I'd prefer we stick with David.

Bellchambers is the obvious out, looks a long way off ready at the moment. Richmond aren't sporting a strong ruck combination, so hopefully Hooker can help out Paddy. Hurley would be my replacementafter a good VFL showing, allowing Hooker into a more attacking role (and he certainly likes to take the game on).

I think Leroy's a must this week, we were smashed on the ground today. He's got runs on the board in the VFL, let's see what he can gives us. Whilst Houli had some characteristic errors, his efforts on Milne probably keep him in the side. Personally, I don't actually mind the theory of a rest for Zaka. His impact has probably dropped in the last few weeks, a week off wouldn't hurt with just a 6 day turn around. North's already done it with Ziebell, I say we follow suit.

 

[yaco55]

Out Myers - not AFL standard yet, but I has a good future.
Out Bellchambers -
In Hurley & Jetta
Hooker to play in ruck with Ryder -

I agree with you in's but u may find that Zaharakis is dropped.

Hooker to ruck with Ryder !

 

[Donakebab]

Out: Monfries
In: Jetta

Monfries has been the most frustratingly inconsistent player over his entire career. How many more chances does he get before he is punished for inaccuracy, poor disposals and overall case of the suck. Constant poor form usually see's other players relegated to the reserves, how he constantly avoids it is beyond me. Eat it in the 2's for the rest of your contract, I'm sick of loosing my voice time after time over simple mistakes.

 

[silk]

I think monfries should be dropped, he good games are great but his bad games are just awful. It's becoming too much of a gamble with him.

Lucas would be a better option then monfries.

Jetta should come in after 4 goals and a best on performance with bendigo, but who for?

 

[Mr Mosquito]

Yeah ok smart, drop our best tackler and pressuring machine. Daveys in the top 5 most important players for us.

Since when is it ok to only be in a team due to tackling pressure.

Sure he is great, love his speed, but there if very few possessions he get when he will hit a player laces out. More often than not the decision he makes is the wrong one.

I love the little guy, but he is a small forward not kicking goals, and when he gets the ball he uses it poorly. Gotta do more than tackle

 

[Super Gusto]

Because Myers is getting better with each game and Zaha is getting worse.
Because Myers is playing a defensive role and doing well with it, and Zaha is playing midfield/forward.
Because Zaha is only seeing the ball a little bit more than Myers, but is using it worse.

Because you change a team based on your Ins as well as your Outs. Jetta deserves to come back and can play Zaha's role. Hurley deserves to come in and I think Houli is a weaker link in the back formation because of his clangers and defensive play than Myers.

Zaha was great against the Hawks - Hardly getting worse. I can see him playing a good game against the Tigers.

Jetta plays a different role to Zaha. More of a crumbing rover. Whilst Zaha is a lead up forward. Jetta deserves a recall thought after 4 goals at Bendigo.

 

[Donakebab]

I think monfries should be dropped, he good games are great but his bad games are just awful. It's becoming too much of a gamble with him.

Lucas would be a better option then monfries.

Jetta should come in after 4 goals and a best on performance with bendigo, but who for?

Another small forward? I think you already answered your own question...

 

[efcboy]

No change

Although Hurley has been good in the vfl it wouldnt be great for team structure imo.

Richmond dont really have a big key forward at the moment so having hurley pears and hooker would be a very tall backline for a small forward line, therefore i would stick with the more agile myers.

I thought bellchambers was pretty bad tonight and the only change i am considering at the momment is in hurley out bellchambers and hooker to play in the ruck however i am reluctant to move hooker because he has been playing so well.

totally agree with this - other than the 1st quarter where the youngsters were a bit overawed with the pressure the team was quite good from then on. if you are going to make changes you need to keep defensive matchups in mind.

the richmond forward line is likely to consist of (with my matchup):

Pettifer - Dempsey (demps can spoil him overhead and given kayne's coming off a knee reco can run off him)

Morton - McPhee (a good matchup for mcphee who can beat him for strength and run off him)

N.Brown - H.Slattery (i'm not underestimating browny so go with slattery to shut him down and pace isn't as much an issue anymore like in the past)

Simmonds - Hooker (happy to go with hooker here unless hurley comes in at the expense of bellchambers)

J.Riewoldt - Pears (pretty happy with this matchup as Pears is probably stronger and can match him pace wise)

Nahas - Houli (need a nippy roving type to keep this goal sneak at bay - houli did it well against milne so should get the gig on nahas).

then midfield:

Tuck - Watson (head to head contest)

Deledio - Winderlich (need someone with pace, reasonable overhead with defensive mindset - winda fits the bill nicely)

Foley - Dyson (foley and deledio are game breakers so i'd have dyson tagging as he can match his pace and shut him down)

Cotchin/Tambling - Stanton (hoping stanton can get off the leash this week)

Cousins - Hocking (looks a decent matchup pace wise)

So i don't think many changes (if any) are necessary at all. I disagree that a 2nd ruckman isn't needed against Simmonds/Graham especially when paddy could have a slight hamy issue - would be a bad result to be down to Hooker for an entire game. I'd give bellchambers another week - he should be pretty fresh as he didn't do much yesterday!

There's no need to rush guys like hurley, daniher, prismall etc. I'll be content to give them another week of conditioning in the vfl and hoping a good performance warrants selection for the cats match.

I'll be surprised if davey is suspended - once in the air he twisted trying to avoid contact. At worst it should just be a reprimand. However you never know...if he does get a week than i'd agree that Jetta is the obvious replacement.

If ryder's cramp is more than that then Hurley or Lucas come in for support in ruck...which would be a terrible result.

 

[daffo]

In : Hurley, Jetta
Out : NLM, Myers

Hurley can play back, Jetta up forward.

 

[efcboy]

Out: Monfries
In: Jetta

Monfries has been the most frustratingly inconsistent player over his entire career. How many more chances does he get before he is punished for inaccuracy, poor disposals and overall case of the suck. Constant poor form usually see's other players relegated to the reserves, how he constantly avoids it is beyond me. Eat it in the 2's for the rest of your contract, I'm sick of loosing my voice time after time over simple mistakes.

Constant poor form? Did you miss the hawthorn match? Monfries was close to best on ground - 8 marks in the 1st quarter taking hodge to the cleaners.

 

[Strike Swiftly]

If ryder's cramp is more than that then Hurley or Lucas come in for support in ruck...which would be a terrible result.

I agree with most of your post. I would bring Hurley in as as he is in good form and is versatile. I would probably give Myers another week (solely out of hope of improvement) and drop NLM. But in fairness to NLM, he played a fair percentage of the game last night in defence. He has shown more playing the third tall in the forward line.

If Ryder battles to get up this week, I would consider playing Hooker as back up ruckman to BC.

 

[Smokin]

very confident Ryder will be fine. I watched him last night when he pulled up sore, and he looked like he tried to stretch at one point, which suggests cramp. You dont try to stretch a strained muscle.

With less than 2 mins to go, he was running along the boundary fairly freely, so if there was concern surely they would have iced it and thats it for the night.

It defnitely looked like a cramp to me.

changes, if any Hurley for Myers. Im not convinced Hurley cant play the exact same role better in all areas. I dont think we lose anything there, because Myer isnt giving us run, his skills left a bit to be desired and is slow as a turtle.