Changes vs St Kilda

[ghostdog]

Regarding the last 2 posts- You want me to take away that fumble that nearly cost us the game?
Oh hes due a breakout game we better have him in our best 22 then, I'm due to win tattslotto aswell. hahahaha Leeroy maybe on fringe at the moment, but miles off our BEST side!!!!
Zaharakis>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>leeroy!

I'm not saying forget the fumble at all. I would certainly suggest you consider the pressure of the situation and the weight of positive things v the weight of clangers and base your appraisal accordingly. On the basis of that match alone he deserves to play on. That fumble may have lost it as you say, but when all's said and done he did much to help us win also.

On Zaharakis I could offer you your own argument re: his performance v Hawthorn. What did he kick, like 1 goal 4 or something. His inaccuracy could have cost us the game. Lucky it didn't.

 

[HighettBomber]

Jetta is frustrating because he just doesn't seem to have any confidence, but he makes things happen and the forward pressure he and Davey create is a big plus.

I cant understand why people are so harsh on Houli, I thought he was really good last Friday. He stuffed up a couple of times, but he also got us out of trouble quite a few times and set up attacks.

 

[Boucks09]

The only bloke who will get dropped for lucas is Neagle IMO.
Reimers is out for atleast the next month
So you are telling me you would have Jetta in the side before Lovett Muarry, Myers, Houli, Lonegran, Dyson and Zaharakis

Disagree with you regarding Lucas and Neagle. Don't you remember how Knights wanted to play 4 KPF (inc Gumbleton) at the start of the year? The only reason we haven't is because Neagle/Lucas have been out of form. If Scotty plays well again next week he will come in alongside Neagle and Lloyd at the expense of a Lovett Murray type player.

Teams aren't necessarily picked on who the best players are, but those who perform specific roles for the team. None of the guys you have mentioned above can fill the role that Leroy can up forward except perhaps Zaharakis. He is not competing with those types of players for his position.

If you watch the games when Leroy doesn't play, Alwyn Davey is absolutely f***ed because he is doing all the forward line chasing himself. Leroy can help in this regard which in turn allows Alwyn to have more of an impact with his skills rather than being constantly fatigued and running over the ball.

 

[lamaros]

In the coming weeks I see the following staggard changes:

Lucas > Lovett Murray
Daniher/Hurley > Myers/Houli (depending on match ups)
Prismall > Dyson
McVeigh > Lonergan
Reimers > Zaharakis

Skipworth, Jetta pushing for selection

Lucas, Neagle and Lloyd will not play in the same team.
Hurley is unlikely to come in for a week or two, and you forget that Fletcher is also to come back.
Prismall would come in for Zaka most likely, not Dyson. Dyson plays a more defensive role at the moment and Prismall is not that kind of player.
McVeigh is likely to come in for whoever is in the worst from from Dyson, Lonergan, Houli, Hocking.
Reimers will need a few weeks in the seconds before he comes close to the first team.

McVeigh, Fletcher, and Prismall are likely to come in, as is Jetta, and push people out, but as far as Lucas, Reimers, Hurley, Daniher and the like go it will come down to fitness and form in the seconds before they get a look in.

I would think that the players likely to drop out of the team are Houli, Zaka, Hooker, Dyson/Hocking/Lonergan, Myers, and then maybe NLM and Slattery depending on form and matchups.

 

[lamaros]

Disagree with you regarding Lucas and Neagle. Don't you remember how Knights wanted to play 4 KPF (inc Gumbleton) at the start of the year? The only reason we haven't is because Neagle/Lucas have been out of form. If Scotty plays well again next week he will come in alongside Neagle and Lloyd at the expense of a Lovett Murray type player.

No, the reason we haven't is because our forward line was completely dysfunctional with that kind of a setup and looked silly against Port. Lloyd Neagle and Lucas would have to be setting the world on fire before they got a chance to run out together.

I love Jetta in the team, I think he has real skill and quality, but there is no denying that he does have some confidence issues. He fumbles more than he should and doesn't take the shot for goal when it presents itself, sometimes making a worse choice in passing. I think he can get over these issues while adding to the first team, where his pace and pressure is great, but a good run of form for Bendigo might also help him sort it out a bit too.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Regarding the last 2 posts- You want me to take away that fumble that nearly cost us the game?
Oh hes due a breakout game we better have him in our best 22 then, I'm due to win tattslotto aswell. hahahaha Leeroy maybe on fringe at the moment, but miles off our BEST side!!!!
Zaharakis>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>leeroy!

:facepalm:

 

[Boucks09]

Lucas, Neagle and Lloyd will not play in the same team.
Hurley is unlikely to come in for a week or two, and you forget that Fletcher is also to come back.
Prismall would come in for Zaka most likely, not Dyson. Dyson plays a more defensive role at the moment and Prismall is not that kind of player.
McVeigh is likely to come in for whoever is in the worst from from Dyson, Lonergan, Houli, Hocking.
Reimers will need a few weeks in the seconds before he comes close to the first team.

McVeigh, Fletcher, and Prismall are likely to come in, as is Jetta, and push people out, but as far as Lucas, Reimers, Hurley, Daniher and the like go it will come down to fitness and form in the seconds before they get a look in.

I would think that the players likely to drop out of the team are Houli, Zaka, Hooker, Dyson/Hocking/Lonergan, Myers, and then maybe NLM and Slattery depending on form and matchups.

Disagree with you on Lloyd, Lucas and Neagle but will discuss below.

I did forget that Fletcher was to come back . Nonetheless I think he would come in to play as an attacking defender now that we have 4 options to play as KPD. He would play the role that McPhee tried to play last week as the loose back (ala Sam Fsher). I see him taking the spot of Houli or Myers.

Hocking is a lock in our side until Welsh hits top form. Nobody else is even close to performing the role he does week in week out.

Slattery should never be dropped as we have nobody else that performs his role. The only chance of Slatts ever getting dropped is if we can develop Daniher into playing on small forwards. We don't want to pigeonhole Myers into becoming a purely negating defender.

No, the reason we haven't is because our forward line was completely dysfunctional with that kind of a setup and looked silly against Port. Lloyd Neagle and Lucas would have to be setting the world on fire before they got a chance to run out together.

I love Jetta in the team, I think he has real skill and quality, but there is no denying that he does have some confidence issues. He fumbles more than he should and doesn't take the shot for goal when it presents itself, sometimes making a worse choice in passing. I think he can get over these issues while adding to the first team, where his pace and pressure is great, but a good run of form for Bendigo might also help him sort it out a bit too.

The reason it failed so miserably in the pre season and against Port was due to the fact that between Lucas and Neagle we were getting absolutely nothing in terms of goals, second efforts and forward pressure. Neagle has already shown last week that he has lost weight and is able to put in 2nd efforts (as we saw in the Lonergan goal).

Lucas when firing will play up the ground and rotate with Lloyd in that high/deep forward role. Neagle can play the stay at home full forward. Knights is not going to suddenly scrap a tactic he spent all preseason preparing due to a handful of games with unfit and underperforming players.

I think ideally our forward line this year could look like this:

Jetta, Neagle, Davey
Monfries, Lloyd, Lucas

Next year it would be:

Jetta, Neagle, Davey
Monfries, Lloyd, Gumbleton

Very few teams would have the balance of having 3 key forwards (2 of which are mobile with big engines) and 3 high quality small forwards he exert terrific defensive pressure.

However given last week's win and Zaharakis' form as a forward I think Leroy will struggle to get a game this week. In the long term I see Zaharakis as a goal kicking midfileder/forward (e.g. Paul Chapman) rather than a permanent small forward like Leroy.

 

[lamaros]

Slattery should never be dropped as we have nobody else that performs his role. The only chance of Slatts ever getting dropped is if we can develop Daniher into playing on small forwards. We don't want to pigeonhole Myers into becoming a purely negating defender.

I can see Dyson playing the small defender role if needed.

The reason it failed so miserably in the pre season and against Port was due to the fact that between Lucas and Neagle we were getting absolutely nothing in terms of goals, second efforts and forward pressure. Neagle has already shown last week that he has lost weight and is able to put in 2nd efforts (as we saw in the Lonergan goal).

The reason is failed is because it does'nt work. It's not functional. Unless you sit one guy in the square and literally tell him not to move at all you just clog up the space, confused the forwards with where they are leading, and make it easier for the other side. The only way you can play it is if you have one back two forward, and neither Lucas or Neagle is fit or fast enough to play the forward role at the moment. And unless you have the movement between the forwards in these roles the defense becomes predictable.

I can see it happening more next year, with Gumby instead of Lucas, because Gumby and Lloyd have the ability to play forther up the ground. Lucas and Neagle can't though, they both get exposed if they stray too far from the forward, so it won't work.

Don't forget, you have McPhee and Monfries about also. Neagle and Lloyd working well with Monfries last week is one thing, returning McPhee forward when Fletch comes back, and then throwing in Lucas on top of that? Forget about it.

Lucas when firing will play up the ground and rotate with Lloyd in that high/deep forward role. Neagle can play the stay at home full forward. Knights is not going to suddenly scrap a tactic he spent all preseason preparing due to a handful of games with unfit and underperforming players.

Lucas is past that role. Can't do it anymore as he is not mobile enough. And I'm sure Knights is aware that when things don't work sometimes you have to change them. It's not a co-incidence that Neagle Lucas and Lloyd haven't played with each other again since the Port game.

However given last week's win and Zaharakis' form as a forward I think Leroy will struggle to get a game this week. In the long term I see Zaharakis as a goal kicking midfileder/forward (e.g. Paul Chapman) rather than a permanent small forward like Leroy.

Jetta and Zaka will play the same role eventually. The reason Jetta plays more forward is because he's more of an asset there at the moment, but he will work his way into playing midfield also. Him Davey and Zaha will all rotate from the forward line through the midfield as some point (Monfries likely also), just like I expect Dempsey and Myers to rotate from the backline through the mids.

 

[Boucks09]

I can see Dyson playing the small defender role if needed.

Are you serious? Dyson is a running midfielder who has become a run with player. He would get exposed playing deep back on a smart forward.

The reason is failed is because it does'nt work. It's not functional. Unless you sit one guy in the square and literally tell him not to move at all you just clog up the space, confused the forwards with where they are leading, and make it easier for the other side. The only way you can play it is if you have one back two forward, and neither Lucas or Neagle is fit or fast enough to play the forward role at the moment. And unless you have the movement between the forwards in these roles the defense becomes predictable.

Lucas has played the high forward role this year and gotten 15+ possies numerous times. He was dropped due to his inablity to convert inside 50 and lack of second efforts inside 50. He is still capabe of playing the high forward role and take makes on the wing on the lead. Neagle stays at home the majority of the time. Obviously the 3 can rotate around depending on match ups.

I can see it happening more next year, with Gumby instead of Lucas, because Gumby and Lloyd have the ability to play forther up the ground. Lucas and Neagle can't though, they both get exposed if they stray too far from the forward, so it won't work.

I would say Lucas has been exposed closer to goal this year. But I agree it will work better with Gumby in the side.

Don't forget, you have McPhee and Monfries about also. Neagle and Lloyd working well with Monfries last week is one thing, returning McPhee forward when Fletch comes back, and then throwing in Lucas on top of that? Forget about it.

McPhee up forward is to play the role that neither Lucas or Gumbelon could play last year. He has done it a couple of times this year when Neagle has been out of the side, but I think he is best on a back flank/wing.


Lucas is past that role. Can't do it anymore as he is not mobile enough. And I'm sure Knights is aware that when things don't work sometimes you have to change them. It's not a co-incidence that Neagle Lucas and Lloyd haven't played with each other again since the Port game.

As I said Lucas had been getting plenty of the ball on the lead and taking marks. He is still capable of doing this role.

Jetta and Zaka will play the same role eventually. The reason Jetta plays more forward is because he's more of an asset there at the moment, but he will work his way into playing midfield also. Him Davey and Zaha will all rotate from the forward line through the midfield as some point (Monfries likely also), just like I expect Dempsey and Myers to rotate from the backline through the mids.

I agree with you on Jetta and Zaharakis. Although Leroy has more 'tricks' close to goal wherase Zaha is more likely to be dangerous on the lead. Leroy needs to do much more to get a run in the midfield.

Totally agree on the Demsey and Myers comments.

See above.

 

[lamaros]

I'm serious about Dyson, I think he could play the small forward role depending who we're up against. He could tag Schnider, for example, but wouldn't be as good against Milne. Depends on the matchups. Welsh also has experience with this role.

As for Lucas, yes he can play only taking marks along the wing. However he is really one dimensional in that role. His lack of mobility and agility are going to be exposed there more than in the forward line, where his leading marking and kicking are his assets. Remember it is his marking and kicking and forward movement that has been off, and getting him dropped, not his work higher up the field. He is most useful as a goalkicking forward because he can take a mark and kick a long goal, when in form. McPhee and Lloyd and Monfries are more useful further up because while marking and kicking is still important, their ability to move about more means the structure becomes more flexible and less predictable.

What is best is if you have someone, like Lloyd in his best games, who has the strength and experience to play the stay at home forward, as well as the fitness and movement to work further up the ground, then if you have two of those guys they can swap and change a keep the other side guessing. I don't think Lucas has this anymore, which is why I prefer McPhee/Gumby playing those roles.

I do think Lucas can give us something, but only if Neagle can get fitter and gain some mobility, or isn't in the side.

 

[Boucks09]

I'm serious about Dyson, I think he could play the small forward role depending who we're up against. He could tag Schnider, for example, but wouldn't be as good against Milne. Depends on the matchups. Welsh also has experience with this role.

As for Lucas, yes he can play only taking marks along the wing. However he is really one dimensional in that role. His lack of mobility and agility are going to be exposed there more than in the forward line, where his leading marking and kicking are his assets. Remember it is his marking and kicking and forward movement that has been off, and getting him dropped, not his work higher up the field. He is most useful as a goalkicking forward because he can take a mark and kick a long goal, when in form. McPhee and Lloyd and Monfries are more useful further up because while marking and kicking is still important, their ability to move about more means the structure becomes more flexible and less predictable.

What is best is if you have someone, like Lloyd in his best games, who has the strength and experience to play the stay at home forward, as well as the fitness and movement to work further up the ground, then if you have two of those guys they can swap and change a keep the other side guessing. I don't think Lucas has this anymore, which is why I prefer McPhee/Gumby playing those roles.

I do think Lucas can give us something, but only if Neagle can get fitter and gain some mobility, or isn't in the side.

It's a fair argument you raise against Lucas. I think we both agree that Neagle can currently only play as the deep forward, the decision is whether you play McPhee or Lucas as the other lead up forward. If Neagle continues to offer something up forward Knights will be reluctant to drop him for Lucas.

I still think Lucas can fire for us but I guess only time will tell. Gumbleton is the long term prospect and is best suited to the role though.

I agree with you, ideally you want a range of KPF who are able to play in a variety of positions and be dangerous. At the moment we only have Lloyd who is able to do this and until that changes we will struggle to beat the top teams on a regular basis.

 

[HULK HOGAN]

:facepalm:

please explain

 

[Lance Uppercut]

please explain

you focused on one fumble Jetta made (with an allegedly injured finger, mind you); whilst completely ignoring the goal he kicked to get us back in it; the assist he gave off in the dying minutes; and the tackle he laid that sent the ball OOB on the full to give Dyson the kick on goal.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on players - although I disagree with yours on Jetta I acknowledge you can think what you like - but that's ridiculous saying he nearly cost us the game when in fact, he was instrumental in us winning it!

It's hard to think of a player who was more important in the last 4 minutes of that win

 

[BrunoV]

I think I am still unable to post a thread being a newcomer.

Does anyone else worry about Slattery and the fact that he never has an obvious match up against any side we play. I am never comfortable we the ball goes to a contest he is a part of.

I hate to say this because he is such a tough player and gives everything but I really don't think that his everything is enough.

My fear is that is too slow to play on players his size (the opposition usually being the smaller, more agile and quicker players) and that he is nowhere near tall enough to play as a key defender. He is an OK kick and I am not convinced that he always makes the best decisions.

I am not convinced that he will be in the side when we develop another stopper to play on the players Slattery is currently playing on.

 

[HULK HOGAN]

you focused on one fumble Jetta made (with an allegedly injured finger, mind you); whilst completely ignoring the goal he kicked to get us back in it; the assist he gave off in the dying minutes; and the tackle he laid that sent the ball OOB on the full to give Dyson the kick on goal.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on players - although I disagree with yours on Jetta I acknowledge you can think what you like - but that's ridiculous saying he nearly cost us the game when in fact, he was instrumental in us winning it!

It's hard to think of a player who was more important in the last 4 minutes of that win

Someone said "take away that fumble on Anzac day" and yes i chimed in on that, but the point I'm trying to make is that he aint in our Best 22 Imo. One of our fellow posters listed all these players to come back in and then listed players to be dropped but still had Jetta in which amazed me. Then he went back to havin the 4 talls whis astounded me again.
I would struggle to have Jetta in the side before Lonegran no matter what let alone the others that were mentioned, not just talkin the Anzac fumble which at the end of the day did nearly cost us the game.

 

[ghostdog]

:facepalm:

Classic!

 

[HULK HOGAN]

I'm not saying forget the fumble at all. I would certainly suggest you consider the pressure of the situation and the weight of positive things v the weight of clangers and base your appraisal accordingly. On the basis of that match alone he deserves to play on. That fumble may have lost it as you say, but when all's said and done he did much to help us win also.

On Zaharakis I could offer you your own argument re: his performance v Hawthorn. What did he kick, like 1 goal 4 or something. His inaccuracy could have cost us the game. Lucky it didn't.

Ok Doggy you weigh up Zaka's and Leeroys positives and negatives and see who comes out in front, come on champ???
Would you have Leeroy in your best 22???
actually im very interested to see what your's and lances best 22 would be?? Classic der

 

[Boucks09]

Someone said "take away that fumble on Anzac day" and yes i chimed in on that, but the point I'm trying to make is that he aint in our Best 22 Imo. One of our fellow posters listed all these players to come back in and then listed players to be dropped but still had Jetta in which amazed me. Then he went back to havin the 4 talls whis astounded me again.
I would struggle to have Jetta in the side before Lonegran no matter what let alone the others that were mentioned, not just talkin the Anzac fumble which at the end of the day did nearly cost us the game.

That was I. In regards to the players to come back into the side I listed who I thought would be straight swaps for the guys coming back in (e.g. Prismall > Zaharakis). I still don't feel that anybody currently plays the same role as Jetta in the side apart from Alwyn. As is discussed earlier in this thread Zaharakis can play forward but is a little different to Jetta.

I feel you are missing in the point in making the comparison to Jetta and Longeran as they are two completey different players. You need to pick a side based on balance, not who is the better overall player.

Leroy fills a role that few others can and adds a dimension to our side that others sides will struggle to match. When he is on top of his game he can break a game open in a matter of minutes as we saw on ANZAC Day and during games in the middle of last year. Those types of players must be given every opportunity to shine in the seniors IMHO.

To focus on Leroy's fumble on ANZAC Day shows you missed the majority of the last 5 minutes as he was integral to the first 2 goals. With a bit of luck he could've kicked all three and everyone would be claiming he was a hero:

1). Kicked the first goal
2). Should've had a free for holding the ball before his 2nd tackle on Daivs which was kicked on the full
3). He picks up the loose ball without fumbling

In regards to the tall forwards, my point is that we can still use this as an asset and have a forward line which is one of the most diverse and potent in the league. There is no point being predictable so by having 3 talls (if all in form) makes it very difficult for sides to match up on. For that to work we need small forwards providing defensive pressure. Enter Alwyn and Leroy.

 

[HULK HOGAN]

That was I. In regards to the players to come back into the side I listed who I thought would be straight swaps for the guys coming back in (e.g. Prismall > Zaharakis). I still don't feel that anybody currently plays the same role as Jetta in the side apart from Alwyn. As is discussed earlier in this thread Zaharakis can play forward but is a little different to Jetta.

I feel you are missing in the point in making the comparison to Jetta and Longeran as they are two completey different players. You need to pick a side based on balance, not who is the better overall player.

Leroy fills a role that few others can and adds a dimension to our side that others sides will struggle to match. When he is on top of his game he can break a game open in a matter of minutes as we saw on ANZAC Day and during games in the middle of last year. Those types of players must be given every opportunity to shine in the seniors IMHO.

To focus on Leroy's fumble on ANZAC Day shows you missed the majority of the last 5 minutes as he was integral to the first 2 goals. With a bit of luck he could've kicked all three and everyone would be claiming he was a hero:

1). Kicked the first goal
2). Should've had a free for holding the ball before his 2nd tackle on Daivs which was kicked on the full
3). He picks up the loose ball without fumbling

In regards to the tall forwards, my point is that we can still use this as an asset and have a forward line which is one of the most diverse and potent in the league. There is no point being predictable so by having 3 talls (if all in form) makes it very difficult for sides to match up on. For that to work we need small forwards providing defensive pressure. Enter Alwyn and Leroy.

Ok Leeroy isn't my favourite player BUT he has improved abit this year!!
He plays his best football when he is playing with intensity and he no doubt would have learnt alot by watchin Alwyn Davey, and through being dropped on numerous occasions for his lack of intensity(effort).
All I am sayin is he would not be in my best 22.
I know exactly what your saying about match ups but if it came down to picking the last player and you had 1 who is definatly would give you 100% and 1 who may not, as a coach I more times than not go for the 100% man. I also beleive that Jettas role can be covered more easily than an onballers, I could get some more shit for this but I think Houli could play the 2nd small forward role very well especially if he chases hard (if).
Your reason No. 3 troubles me a little wish he had of picked it up cleanley Anzac Day not to worry, we surely must agree that we are on the improve!

 

[Boucks09]

Ok Leeroy isn't my favourite player BUT he has improved abit this year!!
He plays his best football when he is playing with intensity and he no doubt would have learnt alot by watchin Alwyn Davey, and through being dropped on numerous occasions for his lack of intensity(effort).
All I am sayin is he would not be in my best 22.
I know exactly what your saying about match ups but if it came down to picking the last player and you had 1 who is definatly would give you 100% and 1 who may not, as a coach I more times than not go for the 100% man. I also beleive that Jettas role can be covered more easily than an onballers, I could get some more shit for this but I think Houli could play the 2nd small forward role very well especially if he chases hard (if).
Your reason No. 3 troubles me a little wish he had of picked it up cleanley Anzac Day not to worry, we surely must agree that we are on the improve!

I totally agree with you here. He needs to play at a high intensity for him to be of value to the side. If he coasts around he is a liabilty. I think the best way for him to learn is to play alongside Alwyn so that he can see first hand the work rate that is required to succeed at this level.

I understand what you are saying about Houli and was wondering if he would play that role last week when he came into the side for Jetta. However it seems Zaharakis is the one that is going to play that role and given he has runs on the board (7 in the VFL, 2.4 last round) I think it is a good move.

I guess we will see in time. However it would be good to see him named this week. Although I think we will go in unchanged.

 

[HULK HOGAN]

I totally agree with you here. He needs to play at a high intensity for him to be of value to the side. If he coasts around he is a liabilty. I think the best way for him to learn is to play alongside Alwyn so that he can see first hand the work rate that is required to succeed at this level.

I understand what you are saying about Houli and was wondering if he would play that role last week when he came into the side for Jetta. However it seems Zaharakis is the one that is going to play that role and given he has runs on the board (7 in the VFL, 2.4 last round) I think it is a good move.

I guess we will see in time. However it would be good to see him named this week. Although I think we will go in unchanged.

I was just told it IS unchanged

 

[The Donners]

:facepalm:

It's my desktop background at work!

 

[Ben the Gooner]

It's my desktop background at work!

Is going to every Hawthorn supporter I have on facebook.

 

[ghostdog]

Ok Doggy you weigh up Zaka's and Leeroys positives and negatives and see who comes out in front, come on champ???
Would you have Leeroy in your best 22???
actually im very interested to see what your's and lances best 22 would be?? Classic der

Now now Hulk. First, I'm not comparing Zak and Jetta. I was simply suggesting that you should be rational about weighing up Jetta's performance rather than judge whether he deserves to be in the side on the basis of one fumble. There were many terrific things he did in that particular game that warranted his inclusion in the side the following week.

I was applying the rationale you suggested, to Zaharakis, simply to show you why I didn't think it was appropriate. I didn't do this to compare the two players, though inadvertently, I can see how you arrived at this conclusion.

FWIW, at the moment Leroy wouldn't be in my best 22 because he's carrying an injury. I'm one of these people as well who thinks it depends on who we play. If we're talking about raw ability... tough call. He might be on the fringe. On a good day he's in. Davey and Jetta working in tandem around the heels of the bigger lads, to me, seems like it would invite opportunities. Add their tackling pressure and we've got a couple of blokes who could be very difficult to contain. Might sound corny, but sometimes I think Jetta plays better when he acts rather thinking about the act, if that makes any sense. He seems to put too much thought into it, rather than just letting his ability take him.

Did you favour Houli in the forward pocket? I don't remember. Who ever did, I don't know how I feel about that yet. He has a terrific long kick... I think I'd prefer him as a utility. He could be valuable at hb or hf, pinch hitting midfield... regardless, it was good to see that he seemed to lose some of that fear of contact. Was it Hodge he took front on?

Anyway, take a chill Hulk. I'm not attacking you.

 

[cawshezy]

Ok Leeroy isn't my favourite player BUT he has improved abit this year!!
He plays his best football when he is playing with intensity and he no doubt would have learnt alot by watchin Alwyn Davey, and through being dropped on numerous occasions for his lack of intensity(effort).
All I am sayin is he would not be in my best 22.
I know exactly what your saying about match ups but if it came down to picking the last player and you had 1 who is definatly would give you 100% and 1 who may not, as a coach I more times than not go for the 100% man. I also beleive that Jettas role can be covered more easily than an onballers, I could get some more shit for this but I think Houli could play the 2nd small forward role very well especially if he chases hard (if).
Your reason No. 3 troubles me a little wish he had of picked it up cleanley Anzac Day not to worry, we surely must agree that we are on the improve!

Jetta is shit fullstop