Preview Changes vs Swans

[GROTTO]

Thought it was a longshot for LJ, shaw and Porpoise all to be gone. Happy with the changes.

LJ should have been kept in.

 

[jangofett]

This guy.

What are the lotto numbers this week please?

 

[Glenno23]

Happy with some of the changes, not happy with some others.

- Love that Crouch Jr is in
- Happy with Hartigan coming in but it should've probably been Rutten dropped for him instead of Shaw
- Delighted to finally see Porpy get dropped (please don't come back)
- Disappointed that Charlie Cameron isn't replacing him. I'd much rather see Cameron than Petrenko
- Very happy to have Laird back, he should be replacing Reilly though instead of replacing a forward like Johnston
- Disgusted that Johnston got dropped. If they were going to drop a forward, it had to be Pods

Lul wot?

 

[jangofett]

I said it earlier in the week, I think we will go small this week

OUT:
Mckernan- might be due to injury, may not. But he won't play. Jenkins to come in. This is definitely not the last we will see of Smack, he had a good pre season, and I still think he can make it, he may have been injured last week which explains why we didn't see much of him

Shaw- gets opened up by defenders, and so does Reilly. Shaws decision making pretty bad aswell

Crouch- injury. One crouch for another this week. Almost like when Mark Waugh replaces Steve Waugh

Porpoise- collingwood game last year has been his only good game in a long time

LJ- effort last week was bad. Some posters on here believe he is footy smart to go along with his kicking...disagree completely. Not smart enough to get to the right spots, not smart enough to use the ball well up the field, and not smart enough to realise he has to work harder. Would be playing if we didn't have pods, but irrelevant, as they are both gone when tex returns. And is this guy even a good kick?

INS:
Matt crouch
Laird
Petrenko
Jenkins
Lyons or Hartigan (depends if they think Reilly can take a third forward)

Reallt hope these are the changes, especially Matt crouch. And let's hope he doesn't get the green vest

 

[Ravenous Crow]

Whilst I'm happy to see Crouch get a game, what the hell does Lyons have to do to get a proper run at AFL level?

Move to another club.

I really like his skillset and think he'll eventually have a good career in football. But god he must be a bit of a dunce to turn away from Melbourne's interest.

 

[mistylake]

I think you've hit the nail on the head with Pods. Another reason too why I knew that Pods wouldn't get dropped this week was because he was played up by the club as a "high profile" recruit, the club would have an expectation that he will be playing in the first Adelaide Oval game and that the crowd expects him to be playing.

The other issue for the club is that they have been getting smashed from pillar to post of late and I think the club isn't ready yet to open themselves up for criticism by dropping Pods. If the club dropped Pods after 2 games it may give the impression that the club made a mistake by recruiting him. I tend to think that the club would rather just play Podsiadly and continue to hope for the best rather then deal with the embarrassment of dropping him so early in the season after promoting his recruiting as heavily as they did in the pre-season.

I think the club needs to learn that less is more. Stealth would be better until we prove ourselves. Instead of.
Broadcasting our tactics, what were focusing on this week. Too much info for the opposition. Easy pray for the Rucci's of this world, when it doesn't come off.
Give 'em nothing.

 

[jangofett]

More goals than Pods.
More tackles than Pods.
More of a bloody future than Pods.

Great move to drop him.

What bullshit role will we invent for Pods to play when he sucks balls at the one we recruited him for again this year??

And if SMcK was friggin concussed, why didn't we sub him off; when did it happen?

Johnston is just about done at AFL level.

He apparently has a good leg, yet has shown an average kick at the top level.
His intensity and work-rate are also poor
He doesn't have a strong engine
He is not big enough to be a KPF
His footy smarts are poor

He is expected to push up to the wings to create space for other forwards, but is always attempting to sneak out the back and get the ball over the top. Something the coaches dislike

With Tex and Jenkins/SMcK around him?

Quite well.

Better than pods.

Johnston is lost outside of forward 50.

Tex and Lynch, our most important forwards alongside betts, are not playing...and johnston still can't get a game. Johnston is clearly not in the coaches plans for the future

Pods will stay in the team until Tex returns, LJ can't play that position

 

[jangofett]

Move to another club.

I really like his skillset and think he'll eventually have a good career in football. But god he must be a bit of a dunce to turn away from Melbourne's interest.

Lyons should really have played this week. Been knocking down the door for over 12 months. Unlucky to be dropped after geelong game. Will probably ask to be traded if this treatment continues

 

[Sanders]

perhaps, in a world where McKernan wasn't omitted due to a concussion.

Think that's more pr than anything.

Smack was dropped too

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Lyons offer's no tackling pressure...? The guy is a tackling machine. Yes, he is on the slower side but it seems in fact that he has gained a genuine yard of pace over the preseason. Ive seen some great run downs from him both in the NAB and in last weeks trial game. The kid can tackle, and as a matter of face can actually play football unlike Petrenko.

My thoughts on Selection:
- Surely you guys are as confused as I am as to why LJ was dropped? Wtf Sando?
- Sorry to be a party pooper, but I would rather Lyons over Crouch. Yes i want to see Bob play as much as the next guy, but we're playing Sydney. Needed Lyons here.
- Would have also liked to see one of CEY or Cameron over Petrenko. We are wasting our time with naming him.
- Happy to see JJ back. It's a confidence booster that he desperately needs.

Not confused at all why LJ has been dropped

If we are going to only play two talks up forward it has to be two genuine sized KPF, at afl level LJ is not a genuine KPF

Like many others I also believe that LJ is seriously over rated by some on this board,his second and third efforts simply don't exist which is so critical at this level and IMO he had some real issues with his hands that he gets away with at sanfl level but it is evident at afl level

Right decision given the structure change, I just hope that he is going back to the sanfl with good feedback so he can work his ass off to develop into a more consistent player as he is so hot and cold from contest to contest

 

[StonesThrow]

Whilst we don't have many other forward options and the whole 'just get games into iinexperienced players theory' sounds well and good, Johnson cannot be given a free ride.

Anyone watching him closely can see he is soft at the ball and for the most part, lazy. Leaving him in the side will not improve this.

In before 'but others are given a free ride'

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

The other major consideration would have been LJ's fitness levels

LJ was subbed last week because his tank was absolutely empty he had nothing left in his legs, if Sando is going to run with 2 KPF instead of 3 the KPF's need to be able to run out the game which LJ could not last week and they both may be calked on to provide ruck support which again LJ cannot

Given the structure change to me it was a pretty logical decision

 

[lunacy]

IN: Matt Crouch (debut), Kyle Hartigan, Josh Jenkins, Rory Laird, Jared Petrenko
OUT: Brad Crouch (leg), Shaun McKernan (concussion), Lewis Johnston (omit), Jason Porplyzia (omit), Sam Shaw (omit)

god dammit Sando, WHY DIDN'T YOU DELIST HIM IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS BULLSHIT!

if you think Petrenko will be able to chase midfielders up and down the wings all day you've got another thing coming!

EDIT: fwiw, I'm actually pretty pleased with the other changes considering Crouch and McKernan were forced.

Wow. Surely the omitted players have to take responsibility. They were all disgraceful (Shaw probably not as bad). They cannot play disgraceful footy and complain about getting dropped. How else do we raise the standards?

I applaud it. I hope to God Sando is saying "if you don't compete 100% for this jumper, don't expect to wear this jumper again".

I can't believe people tolerate a lack of competitiveness. LJ you don't want it, it's obvious. I don't care if you can kick, you still need to play a team game.

Mckernen was omitted, don't believe it was for any other reason.

Pods is lucky. Couldn't drop all of them, we've run out of forwards. But he better compete hard in the air Nd on the ground. Supposed to be right up there in afl for tackles inside forward 50.

 

[Crowbots are dead]

LJ should have been kept in.

he clearly isn't working hard enough. We can't call sando soft and complain when he's tough

 

[amer]

Whilst I'm happy to see Crouch get a game, what the hell does Lyons have to do to get a proper run at AFL level?

Give more than zero defensively. Leaves his opponent off the chain all the time. Tough love for the young man at the minute.

 

[FR0GGY]

Give more than zero defensively. Leaves his opponent off the chain all the time. Tough love for the young man at the minute.

Would fit in perfectly with half our midfield then

 

[Skippy231]

LJ should have been kept in.

At least he will be kept in for the remainder of the season, and I mean in the reserves where he belongs.

 

[AFC979810]

Missed it by that much, Agent 99.

Overall I really like the changes. What do all the ins have in common? They are hard nuts.

I suspect that Smack would have been dropped if he wasn't injured (I would have preferred Smack to JPod but we couldn't drop all three tall forwards.....yet). Hopefully bringing in Hartigan puts Truck on notice.

Not surprisingly they ignored Jarryd Lyons yet again. Sando likes the "concept" of Petrenko as opposed to someone like Jarryd Lyons who is boring and just gets heaps of clearances. Unlike many others, I remember how well Sam Shaw played in that brief phase of his career when he went for 2 months without an injury.

Officially Gone; Martin, Porplyzia, LJ, Graham

Watch this Space; JPod, Rutten, Reilly, Jaensch (NaBA), Petrenko, Mackay

Waiting in the wings; CEY, RAT, Charlie

Not sure how I missed anything since the post you quoted was what I would like to see happen. You really need to stop this whole captain hindsight bullshit mate. You are becoming such a pest.

TBH - I don't mind the changes either, but I am not rapt about them. Just don't know how we are going to kick enough goals.

Since we have dropped Porps - I hope he doesn't come back. Would have preferred to see him get 3 full AFL games to prove he could still cut it, rather than the 1 game and a quarter. I just have this nasty feeling he is going to do well at SANFL and get called up.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Don't you know BACCS role around here? He is our selection cop. Anyone that has an opinion contrary to our selectors he is all over them.

Ironic given your position on anyone that disagrees with popular big footy group think.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Idiotic.

god dammit Sando, WHY DIDN'T YOU DELIST HIM IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS BULLSHIT!

He probably would have if he didn't have to replace him with a draft pick in the 70's.

 

[King Elvis]

1)
I know where you are coming from and agree to an extent with what you're saying but both mine and numerous other's point still stand, he has by no means been the worst of the bunch. Podsiadly faded in and out of the game, but is the most experienced and proven of the lot so probably deserves his chance. If i had not have looked at the team sheet I wouldn't have even noticed that McKernan was playing.

Mate, I'm loving your posting in this thread, but the bold is exactly the problem!

Senior, experienced players have no excuse for consistently crap performances.

We should be given the youngsters that leniency - understanding they will have their ups and downs, but are learning and developing.

Not senior players who should know better.

Pods has played two of the worst games of football you've ever seen, it's laughable that he's still in the side.

It's either a golden ticket or an admin/coaching panel who don't want to look stupid for recruiting an old man who is past it on a two year deal.

 

[Elite Crow]

Ironic given your position on anyone that disagrees with popular big footy group think.

I believe you are confused as to the sequence of events. It normally follows this pattern:

Those of us that don't swallow bullshit share our opinion.
Those that do, follow and defend the clubs decision on everything
Those of us that's don't swallow bullshit counter
And on and on it goes

Now serious question, have you not noticed that come selection night BACCS responds to every single post questioning selection every single week?

 

[Sanders]

At least he will be kept in for the remainder of the season, and I mean in the reserves where he belongs.

I don't get views like this.

When a player you don't like is in, its a temporary thing; but the moment they're out, then its a permanent validation of the immutable truth that you know to be true.

Doesn't really add up does it?

 

[Wood_Duck]

Now serious question, have you not noticed that come selection night BACCS responds to every single post questioning selection every single week?

No

 

[Elite Crow]

No

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