Preview Changes vs The Western

[Dancing Potato]

Should we get back on the Spargo merry-go-round again?

Nah.

Give Mentha a crack I say.

 

[Dory_77]

If Viney's wrist is still broken get him out. Has Laser still been going well in the Casey mids? Give him the last few games as a farewell.
Kinda rough to throw in Mentha etc in what will probably be a bloodbath but would be exciting to have him in.

 

[dylan93]

I can't imagine they'll change much.

Will be interesting with all the blokes who are coming out of contract end of season.

 

[stEdy]

Butter Menthol Junior please

 

[Demon Attack]

I'm just excited for SNAP DASH. I voted for Clayton

 

[Lord Nev]

It's going to be Lindsay in for Sharp. We all know it.

We just played a VFL quality team during a VFL bye and STILL refused to actually try anything, so there's no way Goody magically discovers innovation this week.

 

[danster168]

It's going to be Lindsay in for Sharp. We all know it.

We just played a VFL quality team during a VFL bye and STILL refused to actually try anything, so there's no way Goody magically discovers innovation this week.

they played Windsor more time in the mids, gave Culley a go, played Kozzie even more time in the middle, played Trac more time fwd. so they tried a couple of things.

 

[schmuttt]

It's going to be Lindsay in for Sharp. We all know it.

We just played a VFL quality team during a VFL bye and STILL refused to actually try anything, so there's no way Goody magically discovers innovation this week.

If the board had any guts they'd question our selection this week (They won't). I'm convinced they played Viney so he could overtake his dad in a win.

 

[Proper Gander]

If the board had any guts they'd question our selection this week (They won't). I'm convinced they played Viney so he could overtake his dad in a win.

To be fair he played well. Though his disposal seems to be getting worse? I shut my eyes when he kicks these days

 

[danster168]

so what's the deal with Kynan Brown? He's the sort of guy that applies himself defensively but I haven't tracked him in the vfl.

 

[danster168]

If the board had any guts they'd question our selection this week (They won't). I'm convinced they played Viney so he could overtake his dad in a win.

am I missing something re: Viney? he had 25 touches, 8 tackles, and 13 clearances and a goal.

 

[Daemon]

am I missing something re: Viney? he had 25 touches, 8 tackles, and 13 clearances and a goal.

You can say it was a mistake to play him with a broken wrist and also say he played well.

 

[ray_purchase]

Petty having a decent game against roadkill will see him stay in sadly.

So no game for Jefferson or Kentfield. They had better give Mentha a debut.

 

[Toump Ass]

Hearing Clayton Oliver

10

Clayton Oliver

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

put in a half-decent shift yesterday? First time in a while. Looking forward to seeing the "Demon Army" perform a standing ovation for him when we're ten goals down.

 

[ray_purchase]

Hearing Clayton Oliver put in a half-decent shift yesterday? First time in a while. Looking forward to seeing the "Demon Army" perform a standing ovation for him when we're ten goals down.

Yeah he played well... against what is essentially a WAFL side with a horrendous midfield.

 

[danster168]

Petty having a decent game against roadkill will see him stay in sadly.

So no game for Jefferson or Kentfield. They had better give Mentha a debut.

but Jefferson is awful?....

 

[Dory_77]

but Jefferson is awful?....

So is the team as a while atm. Don't see much harm in giving him a run of games to finish the year and (maybe) better adjust to the level

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Yeah he played well... against what is essentially a WAFL side with a horrendous midfield.

Agree, I was more encouraged by his running then by how he played - looked to be transitioning much better.

 

[Proper Gander]

Hearing Clayton Oliver put in a half-decent shift yesterday? First time in a while. Looking forward to seeing the "Demon Army" perform a standing ovation for him when we're ten goals down.

He needs to be back in Casey. Better for our midfield to try something different and he’s not the player he was at all, though can kick the ball vertically off a step like nobody I have seen.

Put him in the 2s and say if you want it, work for it.

Doesn’t really matter, this is spoiling to be a game for the ages!

 

[Lord Nev]

they played Windsor more time in the mids, gave Culley a go, played Kozzie even more time in the middle, played Trac more time fwd. so they tried a couple of things.

Was talking about selection, not tweaks to things they'd already tried.

Culley and Sharp in for Lindsay and Spargo was just rinse and repeat.

PS - Kozzy averages 74.1% CBA for the year, yesterday he went at 73%.

 

[Bluelegs]

To be fair he played well. Though his disposal seems to be getting worse? I shut my eyes when he kicks these days

So does he.

 

[danster168]

Was talking about selection, not tweaks to things they'd already tried.

Culley and Sharp in for Lindsay and Spargo was just rinse and repeat.

PS - Kozzy averages 74.1% CBA for the year, yesterday he went at 73%.

fair, what did you want done?

 

[Lord Nev]

fair, what did you want done?

Personally, once the season was done...

Jeffo and JVR forward, with Melksham basically their onfield forwards coach so they can learn from his leading patterns and craft. Ride the ups and downs with them, either they find form or we get a big sample size to see what's not working for them at senior level. Main instruction is you must lead, all day.

Petty, Turner, Howes as the 3 KPDs. Bowey, McVee, Salem the others (Sestan to replace Salem once he's ready), with Lindsay the 7th also sharing some wing duties. Try Adams if we need a 3rd 'genuine' tall.

Trac permanent forward.

Midfield rotation of Oliver & Viney (together as little as possible), Langford & Windsor (both rotating to wing), Kozzy, Rivers.

No more Spargo/Sharp/Tholstrup roundabout. Play Mentha instead.

And anyone carrying anything at all - You're off to get surgery or whatever you need now, not end of season. The last 5-6 games should have been treated as an opportunity for innovation, rather than a challenge to the status quo.

 

[danster168]

Personally, once the season was done...

Jeffo and JVR forward, with Melksham basically their onfield forwards coach so they can learn from his leading patterns and craft. Ride the ups and downs with them, either they find form or we get a big sample size to see what's not working for them at senior level. Main instruction is you must lead, all day.

Petty, Turner, Howes as the 3 KPDs. Bowey, McVee, Salem the others (Sestan to replace Salem once he's ready), with Lindsay the 7th also sharing some wing duties. Try Adams if we need a 3rd 'genuine' tall.

Trac permanent forward.

Midfield rotation of Oliver & Viney (together as little as possible), Langford & Windsor (both rotating to wing), Kozzy, Rivers.

No more Spargo/Sharp/Tholstrup roundabout. Play Mentha instead.

And anyone carrying anything at all - You're off to get surgery or whatever you need now, not end of season. The last 5-6 games should have been treated as an opportunity for innovation, rather than a challenge to the status quo.

but Jeffo is trash so what does that achieve. I've personally made my mind up on Jefferson. I don't need to see him anymore after he started dropping uncontested chest marks. I was glad he was dropped.

Trac can't play forward because he's the worst kick for goal in the afl over the last 5 years.

I'm okay with giving Mentha a go though.

 

[Lord Nev]

but Jeffo is trash so what does that achieve. I've personally made my mind up on Jefferson. I don't need to see him anymore after he started dropping uncontested chest marks. I was glad he was dropped.

Trac can't play forward because he's the worst kick for goal in the afl over the last 5 years.

I'm okay with giving Mentha a go though.

I've gone back and forth on Jefferson, but I've settled now on a long term approach. We can't keep chop and changing everything about our forward line, never really developing young KPFs and then wondering why our 'forward connection' never seems to improve. Melksham is so miles ahead our best leading forward, so playing Jeffo and JVR next to him as much as possible while he's still around is crucial to their development. Jeffo has played 7 games, reckon you're just being impatient tbh. Basically, you either write off a pick 15 key forward about 3-4 years before he hits his peak, or you actually be a proper grown up club and try and develop him properly first. Looking at JVR this year it's pretty clear how Goody's chop and change development strategy has hurt our key forwards.

Yes, Trac is a poor kick in general, you can't hide that, so you either play him in the midfield with the other two regulars in the 'top 10 worst kicks inside 50' list, or you try and find something that works until we trade out somebody. Trac is dangerous 1 on 1 in the forward line, so I'd rather take that than have him kicking inside 50 (has been rated the worst kick inside 50 in the league as well).