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A nice sentiment but the same could he said for Ned. The problem is not in the effort for players like them, it is in ability. Keays is a liability by foot.
Fair point about effort/ Ned/ Keays' non-right foot 🤔:thumbsu:.

I should have said that Ben would give it 100% effort and would have some impact that helps the team. Ned tries hard, but doesn't have Keays' tank, or impact.
It's indisputable that Keays was one of our best-3 last week, if not our best.
From memory, he did a good job on Saad, Daicos, Rowell while being a valuable connector and sometime-goalkicker (but gee I wish he'd snap more goals <<slaps forehead>> :grimacing:).

Imagine if Keays had Pedlar's nous/composure/creativity with a useful R-foot kick as well!
 
I want this to be a downhill ski.

I want it to be an annihilation.

I want the Crows to gain a shitload of percentage.

I want it to be a one-sided obliteration, evisceration, massacre.
Yes, this!! Start well, break their hearts, keep going, increase the lead every quarter.
We need to get McAdam in and getting up to speed. This is the perfect opportunity. He's easily best 22 and has equally the most x-factor of any player on our list. He'd be a far bigger headache to the opposition than Murphy, even though I love aspects of Murphs' game.
McAdam would probably not be AFL-match fit, but this would be a good game to prep him for a red-hot go after the Bye, for the rest of the season.
 

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Really don’t get the plan for Berry . He was an important part of our future last year and now languishing in the 2s. I get his form is not great but surely we need to develop him in the firsts to get games into him ! Currently he’s stagnating
 
Really don’t get the plan for Berry . He was an important part of our future last year and now languishing in the 2s. I get his form is not great but surely we need to develop him in the firsts to get games into him ! Currently he’s stagnating
I don't think he's languishing, I think he's fighting to find his best footy, which is a work in progress this year for Sam.

I'm really not worried about him TBH. He doesn't seem like the precious type, just a bit out of touch in a team that's outperformed expectations. Its a good problem IMO!
 
Sloane and Smith will be carrying him off the ground. Developing a contending list is not as important as feel good rubbish.

We do have a bye the following week as well. Not really a week to manage blokes and have them not play for multiple weeks


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Not sure I really understand the logic behind the idea that players can't develop in the twos. If someone was going to be a strong contributor at AFL level they would be a strong contributor in the SANFL. If they can't get their hands on the ball at the lower level, or aren't having an impact when they get it, they've got plenty of development they can do in the SANFL. Obviously if a player is dominating the SANFL and can't get a shot in the seniors that's another story, but Berry isn't really having that sort of impact from what I've seen.
 
I don't think he's languishing, I think he's fighting to find his best footy, which is a work in progress this year for Sam.

I'm really not worried about him TBH. He doesn't seem like the precious type, just a bit out of touch in a team that's outperformed expectations. Its a good problem IMO!
Isn't that what we said about Shoenberg and now he is playing sanfl for two years in a row ?
I hope Berry gets out of his funk but I saw him at Glenelg last week and he was terrible and some of his kicking was Keays like
I think the year has almost been a complete write off for him, it will be interesting to see what he does next year
 
Isn't that what we said about Shoenberg and now he is playing sanfl for two years in a row ?
I hope Berry gets out of his funk but I saw him at Glenelg last week and he was terrible and some of his kicking was Keays like
I think the year has almost been a complete write off for him, it will be interesting to see what he does next year
We also said it about Fogarty and Jones... I even said it about Milera about a month ago. Everyone's different.

For the record I haven't written off Schoenberg yet either. There's a football player in there somewhere.
 
Isn't that what we said about Shoenberg and now he is playing sanfl for two years in a row ?
I hope Berry gets out of his funk but I saw him at Glenelg last week and he was terrible and some of his kicking was Keays like
I think the year has almost been a complete write off for him, it will be interesting to see what he does next year
Hasn't Berry always had average to below average kicking disposal? He's also never been great up forward either, which was his role when he was in the side: MID/FWD. Crows need to stop recruiting these ball magnets and start recruiting midfielders you can kick.
 

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Isn't that what we said about Shoenberg and now he is playing sanfl for two years in a row ?
I hope Berry gets out of his funk but I saw him at Glenelg last week and he was terrible and some of his kicking was Keays like
I think the year has almost been a complete write off for him, it will be interesting to see what he does next year
Even last year I don’t think the expectation was that Berry was going to be the star of our midfield. The year hasn’t gone as he’d have liked so far but I think he showed enough last year that he can easily be a third or fourth cog in our future midfield.
 
Hasn't Berry always had average to below average kicking disposal? He's also never been great up forward either, which was his role when he was in the side: MID/FWD. Crows need to stop recruiting these ball magnets and start recruiting midfielders you can kick.
Yep, the knock on him when drafted was his poor kicking
He has plenty of other good traits so hopefully he finds them again
 
Even last year I don’t think the expectation was that Berry was going to be the star of our midfield. The year hasn’t gone as he’d have liked so far but I think he showed enough last year that he can easily be a third or fourth cog in our future midfield.
Lets hope so, he does have some good weapons
 
Hasn't Berry always had average to below average kicking disposal? He's also never been great up forward either, which was his role when he was in the side: MID/FWD. Crows need to stop recruiting these ball magnets and start recruiting midfielders you can kick.
This!
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Yep, the knock on him when drafted was his poor kicking
He has plenty of other good traits so hopefully he finds them again
Isn't the problem that the game is called Football, not GETball?

I can't see any point recruiting ball-magnets if they can't kick the ball to the real advantage of their team/teammates.
 

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