coasting said:
Well Grendel you can disagree all you want but they are the facts.
What facts? Social conditioning and education being inter-mixed? Never said they weren't.
Why do you think there is a playground? It certainly isn’t for ‘education’. It’s a parental substitute and nothing more.
From your pov perhaps. If you think education isn't happening in the playground I disagree.
Its to protect children from wandering off and walking in front of a car or something.
Thought it was also to encourage physical activity, learn that 'social interaction', to eat, toilet breaks etc.
Its your CHOICE to put children in the playground after class, you don’t have to put children in the playground.
You've misintrepreted the post. The 'playground' sessions being 'between classtime' not 'after' classtime (i.e end of school day).
You don’t seem to get this. If you feel so much that your child is being damaged in this environment you would pick them up after class and drop them back at class time.
There's a choice to be made in any education system. What I'm looking for is a better choice. Or is that wrong of me?
Schools don't owe it you to send the 'thought police' into the playgrounds. Sure, Schools are liable for what happens in the playground… but the playground isn’t for education… its a parental substitute and nothing more.
Oh please be realistic. Education happens at all levels of society at all ages of society. What I'm proposing is a re-structure of one level to get that education more focussed in area's of childhood development. No 'thought police' just a re-working of the current model from two to three tiered. Don't read into it more than is there.
If you don’t believe me, ask the school yourself: is the playground a part of education? You will be surprised by the answer. Maybe you want to make it a part of education, maybe you think children shouldn’t leave the classroom at all.
Okay, any school teachers in here that care to comment on this please do so. From my own (and as stated that's all it is) pov I think I've covered this playground bit by now.
My more cynical guess is that you are 60+ and that you voted for John Howard because he makes your kiddies get in trouble if they don't raise the Australian flag once a week.
Nearing 40, no children of my own voted for Howard as a protest vote (believe it or not) as my electorate is one of the safest Labour seats in the country.
Not a very close guess.
Yep, try to. [/QUOTE]and it’s a common belief among people of your generation,[/QUOTE] Which, the 60 plus demographic that I'm not in that you thought I was or the 35-44 demographic that I'm always entered into in surveys (when I am asked to do them)?
that todays children should grow up and live like you did, to live the way of life you fought and died to preserve.
Please God no. I'd like for kids of today to have far wider opportunities than I ever did.. and they SHOULD have those opportunities. However there's so much MORE choice and MORE to learn now than at any time (and it's only going to increase as knowledge increases). What I want is for that information juggernaut that is coming to be able to be absorbed by developing children at a rate that need not overload them at to early an age.
Education should be a delight and a desire so why then do so many kids seem to be turning away from it? There's something wrong there imo and we should see what and where and how we can change that attitude around.
Well what your generation really fought for was freedom from oppressors, the freedom to chose what to do, the freedom to chose to raise the Australian flag when they damn well feel like it.
My generation fought for nothing pretty much. Early eighties and since we're free and easy IIRC. Been fine for my generation.
But my generation doesn't/didn't have to deal with the pressures that todays youth will undergo. It's a bigger, faster and much much more to learn than what my generation went through.
With that in mind it's why I don't really see where there is any harm in trying to best educate on a gradual increase our children without putting to much pressure on them to soon.