Delisted Charlie Constable [drafted by Gold Coast at pick 63]

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Sier has more exposed form but which one has higher (any) value?

Sier has been in the system 6 years, whereas Constable has only been in for 4. Would probably say it's Constable, given he's always racking up monster numbers in the VFL - but neither are worth anything more than a token pick at the end of draft IMO
 
Jan 19, 2008
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Sounds like no one is really interested. His manager just trying to get his name out there.

Just not suited to the modern game. Would have been in his element 20 years ago where he would just need to win the ball. This is the second year he has been floated and there were no takers for a token pick last year. I suspect all the clubs agree with Geelong's assessment of him.

Great player at VFL level.
 
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Richmond really put a dagger to slow on ballers with the amount of pace they put on the game. They've slowly been pushed out of the game. But I do wonder with his height if Constable could start at half forward then rotate in to an on ball role post centre clearance

If he's free and happy for a cheap contract I'd say he's worth a look for just about any team in the comp because he's got upside and is an unusual type of player.
 
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Richmond really put a dagger to slow on ballers with the amount of pace they put on the game. They've slowly been pushed out of the game. But I do wonder with his height if Constable could start at half forward then rotate in to an on ball role post centre clearance

If he's free and happy for a cheap contract I'd say he's worth a look for just about any team in the comp because he's got upside and is an unusual type of player.

He has never really shown any aptitude for that, centre bounce and clearance work is his biggest (and only strength).
 

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Richmond really put a dagger to slow on ballers with the amount of pace they put on the game. They've slowly been pushed out of the game. But I do wonder with his height if Constable could start at half forward then rotate in to an on ball role post centre clearance

If he's free and happy for a cheap contract I'd say he's worth a look for just about any team in the comp because he's got upside and is an unusual type of player.
He would need to have a tank to do that and unfortunately that's his biggest weakness. I think you can get away with being slow if you can run all day but Constable fails in both categories. I've wondered before if he could drop behind the ball instead and be an intercepting player when he's not involved in the middle but realistically any small forward is going to have a field day running off him. The only way I can see him working at AFL level is if a team has a hole in their side for a clearance specialist but can also carry someone playing 50% game time. Realistically that leaves a list of zero clubs.
 
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He would need to have a tank to do that and unfortunately that's his biggest weakness. I think you can get away with being slow if you can run all day but Constable fails in both categories. I've wondered before if he could drop behind the ball instead and be an intercepting player when he's not involved in the middle but realistically any small forward is going to have a field day running off him. The only way I can see him working at AFL level is if a team has a hole in their side for a clearance specialist but can also carry someone playing 50% game time. Realistically that leaves a list of zero clubs.
Has a team ever tried something out of the box like that before?

I look at Richmond with Lambert, Edwards, Cotchin all ageing and their young mids probably being either a bit away or possibly not up to mixing it in the midfield and think what if you used Constable for the minutes that Prestia, Martin and Graham aren't on ball and you need some beef.

With the sub rule now you don't have to worry about rotations as much. Teams can easily get away with 1 guy playing around 60% game time. Melbourne and Brisbane did it for large parts of this year.

I know that's a gamble of a list spot that probably doesn't work out but clubs waste list spots all the time for all sorts of reasons.
 

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Has a team ever tried something out of the box like that before?

I look at Richmond with Lambert, Edwards, Cotchin all ageing and their young mids probably being either a bit away or possibly not up to mixing it in the midfield and think what if you used Constable for the minutes that Prestia, Martin and Graham aren't on ball and you need some beef.

With the sub rule now you don't have to worry about rotations as much. Teams can easily get away with 1 guy playing around 60% game time. Melbourne and Brisbane did it for large parts of this year.

I know that's a gamble of a list spot that probably doesn't work out but clubs waste list spots all the time for all sorts of reasons.
West Coast basically do it with Nic Nat but in my (probably unpopular) opinion they're worse off for it.

I wonder what Dane Swan's TOG was in his prime, Collingwood used to rotate him very aggressively but you couldn't do it with the interchange caps today. And of course those players are way more influential than Constable. It might be a better option for a good team than playing their current second reserve midfielder or whatever though, but with limited list spots teams will probably prefer to get a kid in the door.
 

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He can't be on a large salary, would like Collingwood to have a punt, he will have ample opportunity too.

Maybe a future 2nd (probably 19-22 range) for Constable, Kreuger and a few late/unused picks?
 
No doubt Geelong feel he isn't training hard enough, but it's obscene that he's been given 12 games over four years whilst they top up around him and a few others. Surely you have to give kids a run in the side so they know what it takes? He may never make it, but it feels to me like Geelong's coaching group have incredibly high standards, built on past glories that are now a decade old, and need to adapt to help the less mature and/or resilient kids get a go.
 
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He can't be on a large salary, would like Collingwood to have a punt, he will have ample opportunity too.

Maybe a future 2nd (probably 19-22 range) for Constable, Kreuger and a few late/unused picks?
Number 1 rule of trading is you don't give up quality assets for a combination of ordinary ones. Unless it's an academy type situation. There's other ways to get Kreuger and Constable has no value.
 
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West Coast basically do it with Nic Nat but in my (probably unpopular) opinion they're worse off for it.

I wonder what Dane Swan's TOG was in his prime, Collingwood used to rotate him very aggressively but you couldn't do it with the interchange caps today. And of course those players are way more influential than Constable. It might be a better option for a good team than playing their current second reserve midfielder or whatever though, but with limited list spots teams will probably prefer to get a kid in the door.
Good points. I'm probably just on the negative side of Nic Nat's low usage so I can't say that and then be all too keen on Constable. Slow, inflexible big bodied mids who don't pressure haven't had a good few years so I'm not on that side either. I remember when Constable dropped in the draft and people were surprised, I wasn't. But for the same reasons the Cats ended up taking him - in that he does have a natural ball winning ability - is probably the reason I'd take a punt if I had the list spots. Certainly before the list cut downs I would've been keen. And if a team happens to have extra spots with long term injuries or things like that and the ability to add extra rookies then I'd look at him.
 
Sep 11, 2006
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Just finished responding to the Jordan Clark deal suggestions being thrown out there.

Here's another gem.

HE IS WORTH NOTHING - everyone, all of YOU listening out there. I'll say it quietly now: THE CATS NEVER PLAYED HIM, FORGET ALL THE CHRIS SCOTT RUBBISH ABOUT EARNING THEIR STRIPES IN THE VFL - MIERS AND PARFITT DIDN'T AND THEY ARENT MUCH CHOP EITHER.

Constable is no better than a good, maybe even great VFL player.

Listen up Nuffy, we know he’s worth nothing.

We’ve said multiple times he’s not. It’s just a general conversation about where he would end up.
My guess is he won’t end up anywhere other the Geelong and he’ll do that and continue to play VFL.

Go rant on your on board about your list problems, we’re aware of them but you don’t see us jumping around like children
 
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Should have cashed him in when they had the chance.

I remember Geelong fans scoffing when we suggested he could have been part of a Jack Steven deal. Apparently he was the future of your club.

Now he's worth nothing.
 
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