Family & Relationships Children

[Andre]

Well, I can't quite speak just yet, but I'm pretty sure that when my little girl grows up, I'm still gunna see her as my little girl.

I think that's a large part of it - lots of dads would always see their girl as their little girl - or wish she could remain their little girl and not grow up. Where as they want to see their sons grow up into men they could be proud of. (That's not to say dad's aren't proud of daughters).

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Can't help but disagree...but maybe because I was independant at 15 (not totally by choice, though...)
You should be prepared to be independant by 20...and every single parent/child relationship after this age that I have seen has been nowhere near healthy...

I'd argue that parents who have children that are independent at the age of 15 are far worse than parents who have children over 20 living at home.

I honestly don't understand your logic. I finished school at 18. I had to have 4 years at uni before I could get a proper full time job. So that means I am at home until I am at least 22 (provided I want to live comfortably without struggling for to make ends meet). This makes my parents bad parents?

 

[Papa G]

I think that's a large part of it - lots of dads would always see their girl as their little girl - or wish she could remain their little girl and not grow up. Where as they want to see their sons grow up into men they could be proud of. (That's not to say dad's aren't proud of daughters).

Fathers also remember what horny little bastards they used to be and possibly also remember badly treating or perhaps had mates that badly treated girls and do not want that inflicted on their daughters.

 

[yeah_nah]

22 Is a more realistic age to expect your children to be out of your house, seeing as Uni courses and Apprenticeships take about 4 years. Although if they decide to charge board after they finish high school that is acceptable.

My uncle was living at home until he was 35 and wondered why he couldn't find a wife (has wife now)

 

[bunsen burner]

My uncle was living at home until he was 35 and wondered why he couldn't find a wife (has wife now)

is she a fly in?

 

[cancat]

If you're a bloke boys are best cos they tend to like the same shit that you do - footy, fishing, movies etc. However once you get old you are f***ed as there's no way they will look after you.

 

[clivewaterhousen]

If you're a bloke boys are best cos they tend to like the same shit that you do - footy, fishing, movies etc. However once you get old you are f***ed as there's no way they will look after you.

speak for yourself.

my parents have helped me out over the years if i need a loan or whatever

i will be looking after them if they require it.

 

[pepsi]

I'd argue that parents who have children that are independent at the age of 15 are far worse than parents who have children over 20 living at home.

I honestly don't understand your logic. I finished school at 18. I had to have 4 years at uni before I could get a proper full time job. So that means I am at home until I am at least 22 (provided I want to live comfortably without struggling for to make ends meet). This makes my parents bad parents?

I agree with this. Easier to live at home while studying full time.

 

[fairdinkum]

Niether. I'm 23, settled in a job with a stable girlfriend of 5 years and the very last thing I will ever consider is having children. Don't want them full stop. Cost alot of money, time and effort that I really don't want to give.

Good luck with that.

 

[Power King]

Mixed.

AGE 0-12: Girls are precious and love their daddy's. Boys are like little rats getting into everything, tracking dirt everywhere and losing all your cool stuff e.g. tools. If a girl falls down and hurts her knee, you can pamper her and doctor her up. You are her hero. If a boy hurts his knee, all you can do is tell him to stop crying like a girl. You're a cruel prick. EDGE: Girls

AGE 13-19: Boys are cool. They start playing serious sport that you can enjoy. If they have sex you can (at least secretly) be happy for them. Girls at these ages come fully into their neurotic gene which they inherited from their mother. Fortunately most of their drama will be directed at their mother but you still have to hear about it from her neurotic mother. All of the girl's extracurricular activities are girly. If they have sex, you are not happy in the least. EDGE: Boys

Majority of males would agree.

If you are studying Uni full time I don't see the problem with at home at 20. I was at home at 20 studying full time and a couple of years after to get some money saved, then built a house. I don't think my parents did a bad job and I see them once or twice a fortnight - often, but not unhealthily in their pockets or vice versa.

Now over 25 and still living at home I think is pushing it. You should be finished Uni or an apprenticeship, had 2 - 4 years to save and be either buying or renting. You've got issues of some sort at that point - either your a slacker, a leech or a child in everything but body.

My boys it will be, if they are studying (be it Uni or a trade) or working full time then they'll have the option to stay at home until then to establish themselves. If they want to not work, or just work enough to party, then they can get out before then.

I don't intend to move out until I find a house that I intend to buy and own. People my age are just beginning to do this, but it's more common with people that are a couple of years older than me. Either way, in every case, they are people that have been in long-term relationships for years where they are at least engaged or on the brink of it.

I can't really fathom buying a house (ie a good one, as opposed to a place in boganville that I wouldn't even want to live in for more than a year anyway) on my own as opposed to being with a girl I intend on being with for life, though I haven't payed much attention to buying a house just yet. Like someone mentioned before, I don't see much point in moving out prematurely, especially when you or your parents genuinely aren't phased by it (I think race plays a significant part in this issue as well when it comes to the parents as well as perceptions of those around you). I'm happy to continue helping out at home for now and saving money in order to establish myself more comfortably for when I do move out.

 

[kwame]

if ever i have kids (dont plan to though) i want boys......dont want to have to worry about my daughter when she gets to the age of going out getting pissed......also if i had a daughter that had a bf who treated her like crap i`d have to kick his head in.

couple of years ago a guy i played footy with had a daughter, his first child.....his brother went to the hospital and said to to him "just think in 16 years she`ll be giving headjobs"........the new father said no way!! im going to feed her so much to make her fat as so no guy wants to go near her

 

[JADED]

I have a 4 & 1/2 YO daughter & 18month old son and my son is the reason I wont be having any more kids as he's been much harder to raise. Daughter is like me, a night owl, hates morings and likes to sleep in. My son is yelling the house down at 5am, 6am if I'm lucky and as I do shift work & play video games, this cramps my style . (jokes)
My daughter is a princess and the light of my life. I'm sure it'll be a challenge as she ages.. Don't want to know...

My son is a typical boy. Nearly weighs the same as his sister and is just a boof head, rough & noisy. The other week he leant on a 1/18th scale model Porsche I've had for over 10 years and caved in the windscreen & bent the metal frame around it. Yeh I should have left it in the box but its nice to share stuff, like a father would with his son.

He does kick the footy with me and he's a solid bugger so I've got a prodigy ready for footy training.
As others have said, the age thing is the be all and end all of this topic.

 

[Walesy]

I don't intend to move out until I find a house that I intend to buy and own. People my age are just beginning to do this, but it's more common with people that are a couple of years older than me. Either way, in every case, they are people that have been in long-term relationships for years where they are at least engaged or on the brink of it.

This is what strikes me as strange (experience has me moving out of home at 17, so I don't have a clue) - but, how the deuce does one get into a relationship when you still live with you're mum?

At school, sure- uni... yeah, maybe I can see it... maybe- but once you've got a job, doesn't it just become a deal breaker for most?

 

[Power King]

This is what strikes me as strange (experience has me moving out of home at 17, so I don't have a clue) - but, how the deuce does one get into a relationship when you still live with you're mum?

At school, sure- uni... yeah, maybe I can see it... maybe- but once you've got a job, doesn't it just become a deal breaker for most?

Stereotypically depends on race in my opinion.

 

[Coledinho]

Ive noticed a new phenomenon thats sweeping the nation. Its called Post Baby Weight Gain Syndrome which is highly prevelant in young men who have just had a kid with some bimbo

Every bastard I know whose plopped one out has gained 10kg+ in the first year of the childs life. I think its because you tend to drink more/eat more and sleep less. Either that or you decide you have one in your bunker and its time to let yourself go

Also every child under the age of 1 is ugly. Its not precious, it still looks like a bloody foetus. Ive never heard someone say "thats a cute looking foetus" and theres a good reason for that

 

[Dan Moody]

3 kids, 12, 10 & 8. Two oldest are boys, youngest a girl. The boys are great to kick the footy with, I coached my oldest footy team for 3 years and have coached Auskick now for 7 years with both and my daughter. All of them are very much into sport so I'm always getting dragged out the backyard onto the trampoline by them. The oldest is becoming a mate, huge Pies supporter who loves going and I can have reasonably good chats to, the oncoming teenage years are going to be challenging. I'm 6'1" and he have me by end of next year! The 10 year old is the smartest kid around, good at sport and doing grade 6 work at school ( he's in grade 4), he'll be anything he wants to be. My daughter is my little princess and she wants to do anything I want to do ATM. I feel safe in the knowledge that she'll have 2 strapping brothers that will look after her.
I can't split who is easier to handle, boys or girls. I think if you manage to do things together and stay reasonably close, you'll have a good chance of them turning out ok.

 

[Walesy]

Also every child under the age of 1 is ugly. Its not precious, it still looks like a bloody foetus. Ive never heard someone say "thats a cute looking foetus" and theres a good reason for that

agreed- with the exception of my own.

 

[AsianWithAFro]

BOY!

I want him to pass on the family name. Plus I have no idea how I would handle it if my daughter was ****ty.

 

[azreal]

I have 2 kids, my son is 3, daughter turns 1 tomorrow. I guess I always thought I would find boys easier as I know what boys get into, how they think etc. But I think as part of a couple, you will manage, wifey can interpret the female issues and help me understand just wtf the daughter is on about especially when she is in her teens.

As for the weight gain thingy mentioned above somewhere, i think that begins with the crazy cravings during pregnancy, I know I took the opportunity to partake in a few hundred extra magnums during pregnancy #1. I do know a lot of people who do have significant parental weight gain, glad it wasn't a big issue for us but I can see how it does happen- less sport, more hometime, more snacks, more takeaway.

Parenting is awesome though, I love it, but my kids are great, and have ALWAYS been very cute too!

 

[drummond2fevola]

So the general consensus of this thread is to get your daughter a sex change at age 12?

 

[Bomber Bears]

Re leaving home, I'm 21 and live at home. Im starting to consider the pro's/cons living at home at present. At the moment, jobless as I am, the pro's do outweigh the cons. Whilst studying at uni it really is much easier at home. But then there are the little things which do make me think that if money wasnt the issue I'd be out of here in a second.

Few mates have moved into granny flats/garages out the back which would be ideal, still get meals at home but otherwise keep to themselves. Halfway house I guess

 

[CrippsonBlue]

The whole 'I'm doing a uni degree' is a pretty weak excuse for staying at home.

By that I mean being at home isn't a requirement to doing well at uni. I moved out at 17, studied at UWA, worked, and been independent since.

Can easily be done, without the need to give up a social life, or have your grades suffer.

It's simply just a personal preference. Mine was to get out, however life is stressful enough as it is, without pressuring teenagers to be independent, when they aren't even mature adults. If you are happy to stay at home, lap it up, save - work, bills, responsibility etc will still be there later on.

I think both are good options for different reasons. I won't be pushing my kids out the door, but if they need to get out on their own, I also won't hold them back.

Regarding the thread topic, I've got a boy, and at first didn't know what all the fuss was about (regarding their behavior). I foolishly began to believe that any bad behavior was simply due to how the parents raised them. He is now 2, and can be an absolute terror. To mimic others though, knowing we will go and watch Carlton games together is a pretty awesome prospect.

Have a girl on the way, so it'll be interesting to compare, and also see if I am a little more protective of her from the start.

 

[Bomber Bears]

Of course it can be easily done, but when your uni is ten minutes from where you live, it is extremely conveniant living at home, if just from a financial point of view.

 

[CrippsonBlue]

Same reasoning applies when you start working full-time, so what's the difference?

Like I said, nothing wrong with staying at home, but I don't believe studying has much to do with the choice.

 

[Eagle Empire]

Having a son who decides to follow your club would be an awesome prospect as you said, ppg05. But imagine if your son was rebellious at an early age and chose to follow a rival club.

It would be shattering!