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[RussellEbertHandball]

I found the Two Men in China episode on Shanghai. For those who went to the game this year, you will see some familiar sights and I'm not talking just about the famous buildings. For those who are going in May for the first time its a good introduction. You see Clinton Dines briefly at 40 seconds. Think he was in Part I when they were in Beijing, but that episode isnt up on youtube.

 

[xflamedancer]

I have read a bit about this bloke Clinton Dines a few years ago and the article below from mid 2014 and even saw him interviewed by John Doyle and Tim Flannery in their 2014 show Two Men in China. He worked for BHP for 21 years - was President of BHP for those 21 years after 8 years earlier going to China to teach English.

Clinton Dines: how to win in China
Jul 11 2014 at 5:14 AM
Clinton Dines, head of BHP China for 21 years, regrets not making more noise. It was 1999 and the resources boom was just taking off, but as head of BHP Billiton in China, he couldn’t convince head office it was real. “It took us three to four years to respond and even then it was too little too late," says Dines, who left BHP in 2009. “Decades later we have only just been able to balance [iron ore] supply with demand. You have to wonder at the opportunity cost." Dines says he was “pretty bloody noisy but should have been a lot louder" when describing China’s need for commodities.

Speaking to Boss from Shanghai’s famous Bund Hotel, Dines is reflecting on his 35 years in China, which will finish in December, when he and his family move back to Brisbane.

Among his major concerns, as he heads home, is the state of Australia’s engagement with our biggest trading partner. “We shouldn’t kid ourselves that just because we’ve done well from China over the last 10 years that we will do well for the next 10 years," Dines says.
http://www.afr.com/it-pro/clinton-dines-how-to-win-in-china-20140709-j5vye

Dines reckons Australians don't really value knowledge of China - at a business level. They are more interested in doing business with China but not in China. This is a challenge for our club and how we overcome both the cultural barriers and tyranny of distance, given we will be tapping into the next phase of China's development the services phase and transition to a consumer economy not just the world's factory.


Talks about being on the ground in China.


His life post BHP and what he will do in Brisbane.

He sounds like the type of person we need on the PAFC board

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Not directly related to Port Adelaide but given the SA Government shadowing our efforts in China, Chinese actor Huang Xiaoming has been appointed a global tourism ambassador for South Australia.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...a/news-story/065cfb87075618cced35b68b53fec09a

Chinese mega star Huang Xiaoming appointed a Global Brand Ambassador for South Australia

Chinese mega star Huang Xiaoming has been made Global Brand Ambassador for South Australia.

SOUTH Australia is bracing for an influx of Chinese tourists following in the footsteps of megastar Huang Xiaoming, an ambassador for the state.

The 40-year-old actor, singer and philanthropist has about 54 million social media followers on Weibo, in the celebrity-infatuated Chinese market.

A video produced from a visit the star made to SA last month is being beamed to millions of viewers overseas.

The footage of Mr Huang will be seen by millions of international and interstate viewers online and through Chinese social media platforms.

Up to 18,000 Chinese travel agents will also use the footage to encourage customers to choose SA and follow the star’s itinerary, which included Kangaroo Island, Adelaide Oval and top vineyards.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Not directly related to Port Adelaide but given the SA Government shadowing our efforts in China, Chinese actor Huang Xiaoming has been appointed a global tourism ambassador for South Australia.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...a/news-story/065cfb87075618cced35b68b53fec09a

Chinese mega star Huang Xiaoming appointed a Global Brand Ambassador for South Australia

Chinese mega star Huang Xiaoming has been made Global Brand Ambassador for South Australia.

Send him a scarf.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Get him to come watch the game in May in Shanghai at the Adelaide Arena with his wife who has a big following in her own right and they can tweet, instagram and wechat dozens of pictures for a couple of hours and everyone gets value from this.

And beef up the taste of Australia pavilion outside the stadium. Get lots of decent produce from SA that he got to experience here for both small free tastings and that people can buy or order there at the pavilion. It really needs to be cranked up compared to the way they did it in May.

 

[Pappagallo]

Get him to come watch the game in May in Shanghai at the Adelaide Arena with his wife who has a big following in her own right and they can tweet, instagram and wechat dozens of pictures for a couple of hours and everyone gets value from this.

And beef up the taste of Australia pavilion outside the stadium. Get lots of decent produce from SA that he got to experience here for both small free tastings and that people can buy or order there at the pavilion. It really needs to be cranked up compared to the way they did it in May.

It needs some shade too. Another Field Club-style pavilion serving drinks outside would do the trick.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Huang is from Qingdao in Shandong where the SA government has been working the sister city sister state/province relationship reasonably hard for a decade. It first started in 1986. There are plenty of opportunities in that province of 100m people.

And his actress wife Angela or her Chinese stage name Angelababy is from Shanghai but went to high school in Hong Kong. She has a large following in her own right.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Four n' Twenty sponsoring Power Footy programs in schools in China. Remember we are rolling Power Footy out not only in Shanghai but also Xian.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...i/news-story/af294fb30e52390b644bc2ed3abe2e6c
FOOTBALL, meat pies, kangaroos and Holden cars, the 1970s Holden’s television commercial declared as the fabric of Australian life.The Port Adelaide Football Club has taken one Australian icon to China with AFL football in Shanghai and is now working on the second with pies. Four ‘N Twenty is moving its sponsorship dollar from national exposure on Port Adelaide’s game-day shorts to international opportunity in China.
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But the major emphasis from Four ‘N Twenty is a two-year sponsorship deal to bankroll Port Adelaide’s “Power Footy” program in Chinese schools. Currently in 15 schools in Shanghai, the Australian football development program is to be in 50 schools – and involve 100,0000 Chinese students – by the end of next year. Port Adelaide’s China Engagement general manager Andrew Hunter told The Advertiser the shift in sponsorship profile from Four ‘N Twenty highlights the benefits of the AFL club entering an international market. “Fulfilling a business ambition – along with a sporting dream – is not impossible in China,” Hunter said. “We have given an Australian company another reason to be involved in our club. “We have presented opportunity to Four ‘N Twenty to introduce two major parts of Australian culture – football and meat pies – to more than 100,000 young Chinese people......
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...i/news-story/af294fb30e52390b644bc2ed3abe2e6c

Chinese students Ying Zhou, Jo Huang, Ninghuai Wu, Jinsong Li and Yisu Wang on Gouger St with Four ‘N Twenty Pies.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Not directly related to Port Adelaide but given the SA Government shadowing our efforts in China, Chinese actor Huang Xiaoming has been appointed a global tourism ambassador for South Australia.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...a/news-story/065cfb87075618cced35b68b53fec09a

Chinese mega star Huang Xiaoming appointed a Global Brand Ambassador for South Australia

Chinese mega star Huang Xiaoming has been made Global Brand Ambassador for South Australia.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This morning I heard ABC Radio Adelaide’s Deb Tribe interview Dr Ying Jiang from the University of Adelaide for about 4 minutes to explain just how influential Huang Xiaoming could be as the new Tourism Ambassador for South Australia. He is a Chinese singer, actor and philanthropist. Port Adelaide FC get a mention around 3 minutes in.

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/adelaide/programs/mornings/ying-jiang/9228108

 

[OneGreatClub]

This morning I heard ABC Radio Adelaide’s Deb Tribe interview Dr Ying Jiang from the University of Adelaide for about 4 minutes to explain just how influential Huang Xiaoming could be as the new Tourism Ambassador for South Australia. He is a Chinese singer, actor and philanthropist. Port Adelaide FC get a mention around 3 minutes in.

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/adelaide/programs/mornings/ying-jiang/9228108

Philanthropist. Suits our club's community first and giving ethos.

 

[Grave Danger]

 

[OneGreatClub]

Oh yeahhhhhhh

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Given the relationship between Port Adelaide and the Government of South Australia in promoting SA in China, no real surprise that Port are right in the spotlight of this announcement.

 

[OneGreatClub]

There will be the usual (taxpayer's money) complaints from fiveAA callers but Port have definitely done a lot of heavy lifting in this China venture.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This bit on the club's sponsorship with Four'N Twenty going to Shanghai and Power Footy is worth putting in here. The club has be inviting Chinese students to our games since 2014 started off with UnisSA but has expanded.

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2017-12-05/fourn-twenty-supports-china-schools-program
Four’N Twenty will also partner PAFC in its universities engagement program in Adelaide, where the club hosts 50 Chinese university students at every Adelaide Oval home game as part of its commitment to welcoming them to South Australia.
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2017-12-05/fourn-twenty-supports-china-schools-program

some other snippets
The iconic Australian brand will be the Presenting Partner for Port Adelaide’s ground-breaking grass-roots program, Power Footy, which uses football to introduce Australian culture to Chinese schools.
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The initial two-year partnership will see Four’N Twenty pies available at Adelaide Arena at Jiangwan Stadium during Port Adelaide’s landmark Round 9 clash with Gold Coast.
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“Four’N Twenty’s support for Power Footy is an excellent endorsement of the program. They believe Power Footy is a wonderful tool of engagement with Chinese students, who are destined to visit Australia in the future as students, tourists, or to pursue business interests.”

 

[OneGreatClub]

I see Andrew Hunter has put some tweets and links up about how Women's AFLX could expand the game in China.
Also good to see Cathay Pacific tweet about PAFC and Huang Xiaoming.
Also Wines by Geoff Hardy.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Also good to see Cathay Pacific tweet about PAFC and Huang Xiaoming.

Can you put the tweet up for Lockhart Road to see as I had a quick look and couldn't find it.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I see Andrew Hunter has put some tweets and links up about how Women's AFLX could expand the game in China....

That's because he's been interviwed in an article about it and a way for footy to get into the Olympics as an exhibition sport at the next Olympics Australia host.

http://www.bullpen.com.au/andrew-hu...n-exhibition-sport-at-the-next-home-olympics/

Since the rugby 7's got into the Olympics other team sports have probably seen them as a template to get in. T/20 is a vehicle to get into a lot of countries and I reckon a long term goal is the Olympics when tey can say its played in over 100 countries.

Ex Richmond player Daniel Jackson working with AFL Canada and USAFL wrote at the start of this year that the women's game can be a way to fast track the game internationally. He said the best Canadian and American women aren't that far behind the bottom end players in the AFLW. He said you can bridge that gap a hell of a lot quicker than bridging an international game for the men's game. I spoke to KT about Jackson's ideas and said we should look at trying to develop girls as much as the boys in the schools program to see if we can help meet Jackson's goal in a decade's time. A women's Chinese team at the 2020 or 2023 International cup would be a decent stepping stone.

Andrew has molded these 2 ideas together but its a long term play, he's talking about getting it as an exhibiton sport first when Oz next get an Olympics which the earliest would be 2032. Its a good read

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Andrew Hunter discusses how China have put resources into women's cricket because its easier to catch up in the women's game than the men's.

http://www.bullpen.com.au/andrew-hu...n-exhibition-sport-at-the-next-home-olympics/

BP: Now that we’re considering the exportation of the AFL, could AFLX be the more exportable game considering the infrastructure required to play that version?

AH: “My opinion yes. The aspiration of having a demonstration sport at a home Olympics is heightened because an Olympic sport has to be played by both men and women.

“Countries will actually see the opportunities in the women’s form of the sport and often see this as more of an opportunity than the men’s form of a particular sport. For example, China has invested in the development of women’s cricket, rather than men’s cricket. The concept is there, we have a modified version of the sport that takes less people and is less demanding in terms of the requirements for the grounds. And now we have an emerging women’s league and an accelerated strategy to increase the participation of women playing Australian Rules.”

BP: Despite Port Adelaide not having an AFLW team are there plans to play women’s matches in China? I ask this question as it is an additional avenue to exchanging ideas about women in sport or women in sports business in both countries.

AH: “We definitely have plans to be more involved in women’s football. We’ve mapped a path towards achieving that and we’re definitely not ignorant to the need to be involved in this really exciting evolution in women’s football.

“If you look at cricket in China, and believe it or not there is 80,000 cricketers in China at the moment, largely China has made the decision because it is an international sport that could have some relevance to the country. But it can be very hard to catch up even in our region with India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Australia and New Zealand in men’s cricket but because women’s cricket has evolved slightly later than men’s cricket they can accelerate efforts to become competitive quickly in women’s cricket and that’s what they’ve done.

“They’re putting a lot of resources into women’s cricket, similarly there could be opportunities to involve more women in Australian Rules football. We see chances in the future to play curtain raisers to our game in China. We’re coming at it with an idea in the future it could be a very complete package; helping the internationalisation of the sport and Port Adelaide will be at the forefront of that but as we move more strongly into women’s football there’s that opportunity as well to bring not just Australian Rules football to China but women’s football to China which is potentially an exciting proposition.”

BP: I think women playing AFLX is an interesting international opportunity. Rugby sevens is a very good example of internationalising a modified version of rugby union that works equally for men and women.

AH: “I think the women’s AFLX product could be the one that takes the world by storm.”

http://www.bullpen.com.au/andrew-hu...n-exhibition-sport-at-the-next-home-olympics/

 

[portly]

Andrew Hunter discusses how China have put resources into women's cricket because its easier to catch up in the women's game than the men's.

http://www.bullpen.com.au/andrew-hu...n-exhibition-sport-at-the-next-home-olympics/

http://www.bullpen.com.au/andrew-hu...n-exhibition-sport-at-the-next-home-olympics/

A good read, positive for our club.

Interesting how Gillon is seen as a 'visionary'.

Of interest to me is that Ports are developing our own women's team - is that team Aboriginal / AFLW or AFLX or what? I'm a bit confused as to where our Ports girls team(s) fit into the Australian AFLW comp, particularly since we won't have a team in that for some years, or are we perhaps angling towards the Chinese scene with girls footy? Or just staying local and acting, for a while, as a feeder into the AFL female comp.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

A good read, positive for our club.

Interesting how Gillon is seen as a 'visionary'.

Of interest to me is that Ports are developing our own women's team - is that team Aboriginal / AFLW or AFLX or what? I'm a bit confused as to where our Ports girls team(s) fit into the Australian AFLW comp, particularly since we won't have a team in that for some years, or are we perhaps angling towards the Chinese scene with girls footy? Or just staying local and acting, for a while, as a feeder into the AFL female comp.

Amazing what happens when you pay people in powerful positions complements and get them on your side. Gil has pushed the AFLW agenda hard so I guess calling him visionary on that front is fair enough.

As for women"s footy and Port it's a case of all of the above. We probably won't get a team in AFLW until 2022 so we have time to plan. We said we want to put a team in the SANFL. We can develop 14, 15, 16 year old girls now with the view to them being ready for our first team in the AFLW. The aboriginal academy for women is like the boys, more than footy is involved in its existence. Its a vehicle for self improvement. China who knows we might find a couple of great athletes there who can convert to the game and be ready in the mid 2020's. And AFLX will be a vehicle both here and in China to develop the girls in both countries. Its all in the lonG term mix.

 

[Garibaldi Red]

Can you put the tweet up for Lockhart Road to see as I had a quick look and couldn't find it.

 

[Lockhart Road]

Many thanks, mate. It’s just a tweet but it’s priceless.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I have to remember to check the AU account in future, not just the main company's account.