Politics Chinese Expansionism and Imperialism

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While everyone is panicking over Coronavirus, China is still quietly expanding it's influence over the Pacific:



Of course, it didn't stop Daniel Andrews buying right into it, right in the midst of the pandemic.
 
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That says it all doesn't it? We can't criticise the CCP over here, in our own sovereign nation, without fear of repercussions from the CCP and their local lackeys.
So its not Expansionism and Imperialism that you actually mind, its just the Chinese version that upsets you, have I got that right?
 

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That says it all doesn't it? We can't criticise the CCP over here, in our own sovereign nation, without fear of repercussions from the CCP and their local lackeys.

No it doesn't. China and the CCP are in the news almost every single day. The government has regularly stood up to them, especially recently such as accusations of cyber attacks, freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea, Scomo calling for the international inquiry into Coronavirus (which was ******* stupid to do at the time). Plus there are numerous threads on here giving China a fair whack.

What it does say is one of the usual suspects has copped a ban but still needs to post Sky at Night garbage. If there is one thing this country isn't missing right now, it's Tony Abbott in power. Would be an even bigger cluster* than it currently is.
 
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Nothing wrong discussing what China is up to. You could simply start another thread to discuss America's expansionism and imperialism if you like.
But maybe China is doing what it is, to defend itself from what the USA has been doing, for over 100 years
The two are intrinsically linked
 

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But maybe China is doing what it is, to defend itself from what the USA has been doing, for over 100 years
The two are intrinsically linked
Have you looked at china's history. They where practising expansionism and imperialism centauries before christ existed. One could almost say it is in their DNA.
 
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Have you looked at china's history. They where practising expansionism and imperialism centauries before christ existed. One could almost say it is in their DNA.
How many countries does China currently have troops stationed in?
How many countries does the USA currently have troops stationed in?

This all about your team having its dominance challenged by a new team in the comp and you don't like it

Tough, its time to get used to it......or abandon all forms of Imperialism
 

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How many countries does China currently have troops stationed in?
How many countries does the USA currently have troops stationed in?

This all about your team having its dominance challenged by a new team in the comp and you don't like it

Tough, its time to get used to it......or abandon all forms of Imperialism
Presumably we are talking about countries where they are not invited? I'm not sure of the figures. It would heavily favour America at the moment but given china's interest in Taiwan and Africa it probably wont be long before they catch up.
 

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Any chance the CCP is behind these types of actions.


Proceed with caution: this website severely violates basic standards of credibility and transparency
 

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You mean as opposed to US Expansionism and Imperialism (and has been so for about 100 years)


The US have never been imperialistic. If anything they opposed European colonialism and helped break it up.

Where they do fall down in foreign policy is that they have favoured nations who are capitalistic over socialist at the expense of democratic versus tyranical. They have backed a lot of dodgy regimes over the years - so long as they were anti-communist their sins were overlooked.

The CCP on the other hand are just plain campaigners. An order of magnitude above anything the USA have done at their worst.
 
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How many countries does China currently have troops stationed in?
How many countries does the USA currently have troops stationed in?

This all about your team having its dominance challenged by a new team in the comp and you don't like it

Tough, its time to get used to it......or abandon all forms of Imperialism
Those troops are invited ffs.
 
Us doesnt take Land for itself. Despite being the only power left standing 70 years ago it set up the UN which made taking land illegal. It encourages countries to form democracies.

China encourages big brother style dictatorships.

Guam, Puerto Rico, Guantánamo, Florida, Texas, and the entire west say hello
 
Certainly before 1900. The nation is nothing alike it was back then. America was just a small fry back when it had its war with mexico.

Should we blame the CCP for things that happened back in China before 1900?

Funny how your rule ignores most of the worst of Europe's colonial conquest
 
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Funny how your rule ignores most of the worst of Europe's colonial conquest
We arent talking about europe. I dont have a rule. Last 30 years is more important then 30- 80 years ago which was more important then 80-150 years ago and so on. You disagree with this?

Chinas CCP is currently implementing a religious holocaust, is implementing a big brother society where they track your social contribution and people disapear in the night if they say something negative about the party and has banned all opposition political movements. This is very f*** scary. And you want to talk about the USA and now Europe. The only regions that will stop china marching its ideology across the planet.

What the british did to china and hong kong in the past was horrific. But despite that Hong Kong citizens today side with the british way of life and are desperate to not become part of the CCP. That should tell you something.
 
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