Chocowatch..........

[Geoffa32]

Making it public is good. It may expose a few more Camry Crows aliases.

I forgot about your alias paranoia. I guess your logic is that anyone who voted Tip is a Crowie in another club guise.

 

[cmndstab]

How do you think a poll would go in three years time when you put Camry Crows Taylor Walker against the Gold Coast’s Kurt Tippett?

I dunno, how do you reckon a poll will go in three years time when we compare Port coach Dean Laidley to Collingwood coach Mark Williams?

See, I can take unsubstantiated rumours that haven't actually been said by the parties involved and make sweeping smartarse statements about them too.


Personally I reckon in three years time it will be near impossible to separate Tippett and Walker in terms of talent, they'll both be absolute guns

 

[D_One]

I forgot about your alias paranoia. I guess your logic is that anyone who voted Tip is a Crowie in another club guise.

Its easy enough to work out.

There is no doubt that Edusce and qjkl were Sekaj aliases, but dont ever expect him to fess up.

 

[PowerKat]

Yeah, I agree completely. The more Power supporters who **** off, the better because I love seeing them die a slow and painful death with more and more Power supporters ****ing off and not attending games, particularly because they're disgusted with the board for reappointing Choco. Good call PowerKat.

no no - you misunderstood me

Credit to gopower, he took the Teal coloured glasses off.

Oh and D_One there is a reason I made it public.

See if you knew anything about stats you would know there is bias in some surveys. By making it public we can take out Crows and Power supporters.

Hoff 2 Votes 18.18%
Tip 9 Votes 81.18%

So taking out the bias the % of people who would take Tip over Hoff does not deviate much from the raw data. I could add gopower as he ignored his bias. Which makes it Tip 83.33% to Hoff 16.66%.........

hardly a valid subject for this thread, and your sample size is a little small at this stage. There are a number of influences that can affect your vote, not that it's probably too far away from a repesentation of what people think.

If you look purely at this year the argument would likely fall in Tippett's favour. Considering Hoff has been injured and is yet to hit form since his return, and Tippett is playing reasonably well, the result is rather predictable. It's very subjective so you can't put too much weight on the outcome.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Tippett was always going to win that poll because the 7 goals - the only really good game he's had - is still fresh in people's minds, and the Hoff has been injured all year and has a stigma about his size. People who don't watch Westhoff play believe him not being 110kg means that he can't play key forward or use his body, which, if you've watched him on a semi regular basis you'd know is completely false.

Tippett has talent, but the Hoff has been a consistent contributor since his debut and has a football brain, not a basketball brain.

 

[Geoffa32]

Tippett was always going to win that poll because the 7 goals - the only really good game he's had - is still fresh in people's minds, and the Hoff has been injured all year and has a stigma about his size. People who don't watch Westhoff play believe him not being 110kg means that he can't play key forward or use his body, which, if you've watched him on a semi regular basis you'd know is completely false.

Tippett has talent, but the Hoff has been a consistent contributor since his debut and has a football brain, not a basketball brain.

So you would pick Hoff right now if both were availiable if both availiable for free.

 

[cmndstab]

Tippett was always going to win that poll because the 7 goals - the only really good game he's had - is still fresh in people's minds, and the Hoff has been injured all year and has a stigma about his size. People who don't watch Westhoff play believe him not being 110kg means that he can't play key forward or use his body, which, if you've watched him on a semi regular basis you'd know is completely false.

Tippett has talent, but the Hoff has been a consistent contributor since his debut and has a football brain, not a basketball brain.

I take it you missed the memo where basketballers are reknowned for their ability to read the ball in flight and have brilliant hand-eye coordination for getting their hands to the ball at the highest point then.

 

[Crow-mo]

Excellent News.

Who doesn't agree?

your friends in Karparkistan fully support this decision too.

all round good news.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

No I said that Hardwick has learnt from Clarko. Which is a style similar to ours, one that is chastised by Tealsters, yet you are so keen to adapt to with Hardwick.

Go back watch some tapes (DVDs) of your team in 2003/04 and then the Grand Finals of Centrals and now Hawthorn. The Cluster is nothing new, the media just have a name for it now.

We didn't use the cluster during Clarko's time at the club. Flooding and the refinements on it including Clarkson's cluster came into vogue via Sydney and achieved prominence post 2004.

 

[Crow-mo]

It's possible to have both a mining industry and the feel good factor of wine and food tourism.

The fact that we've got Olympic Dam somewhere out of sight and hopefully some other big mining projects getting off the ground in the next economic upswing will not hurt our image. Instead the royalties will allow spending on infrastructure including an interesting sports stadium, interesting buildings etc etc .

We're good now but money from the mining industry will make us better and more attractive to tourists. We'll still have the Clare and Barossa valleys and the southern vales, we'll still have Wilpena Pound and all the rest regardless of having the world's biggest open cut mine and other projects besides.

Sadly the wine industry is set for a shake out due to increased overseas competition and over production here. This is contrary to your original assertion some time back that the industry was booming which was contradicted by ABARE analysis at the time.

blah blah blah... you're not addressing the issue.
what's more important to Australia:

- Sydney Harbour or Roxby Downs.
- Ayres Rock or the Port Pirie Lead Smelter

 

[footy4ever]

Who doesn't agree?

your friends in Karparkistan fully support this decision too.

all round good news.

Fantastic news.

 

[Crow-mo]

the coaching discussion was not 9hrs - there was other business discussed

would you like to buy a watch? the hands spin round and round.

 

[Crow-mo]

I’ll stick with Westhoff, he understands the game and won’t be a poaching target by the Gold Coast.

Agreed.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

blah blah blah... you're not addressing the issue.
what's more important to Australia:

- Sydney Harbour or Roxby Downs.
- Ayres Rock or the Port Pirie Lead Smelter

Ok I note you failed to address the fact that you claimed the wine industry was booming whereas it's actually struggling. Why is that?

Given that the mining industry brought floods of money into the country and filled government coffers to a staggering extent over a long period I'd have thought the answer to the question Sydney Harbour or Roxby Downs was screamingly obvious.

Ignoring the fact that you've tried to narrow the mining industry down to Roxby Downs let me ask you which states have boomed economically over the past decade. The mining states of WA and Queensland or the Harbour state of NSW?

 

[Geoffa32]

We didn't use the cluster during Clarko's time at the club. Flooding and the refinements on it including Clarkson's cluster came into vogue via Sydney and achieved prominence post 2004.

I recall a game, the 2003 Heritage round one, against Carlton.

A lot of the second half was used kicking the ball around in defensive 50. You guys were smashing Carlton, which I enjoyed, then proceded to use the rest of the game as a traning drill. Practicing shut down and flooding techniques. You also moved the ball up the ground in a "cluster type" formation.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

I recall a game, the 2003 Heritage round one, against Carlton.

A lot of the second half was used kicking the ball around in defensive 50. You guys were smashing Carlton, which I enjoyed, then proceded to use the rest of the game as a traning drill. Practicing shut down and flooding techniques. You also moved the ball up the ground in a "cluster type" formation.

I was at that game. We did not emply anything resembling a cluster.

Watch the 04 grand final if you can stand it. We did not have a spare man in defence.

The 2004 season was probably the last year that football was played in manner similar to the traditional game. Paul Roos and the Swans changed all that, other clubs were forced to follow suit and Clarkson implemented his version at Hawthorn.

 

[Crow-mo]

Ok I note you failed to address the fact that you claimed the wine industry was booming whereas it's actually struggling. Why is that?

by what measure? it's still promoting tourism, leisure, national identity and lifestyle the world over;

Given that the mining industry brought floods of money into the country and filled government coffers to a staggering extent over a long period I'd have thought the answer to the question Sydney Harbour or Roxby Downs was screamingly obvious.

ah the naivety of someone who thinks the answer is obvious and chooses the wrong one. a very limited world view you have there.

I assume you'd rather live in Roxby than Rose Bay?

Ignoring the fact that you've tried to narrow the mining industry down to Roxby Downs let me ask you which states have boomed economically over the past decade. The mining states of WA and Queensland or the Harbour state of NSW?

I've used a comparative example, how did you get so easily confused into thinking an illustrative example was narrowing an industry down to that example? c'mon toots, your mind is playing tricks on you again.

anyway, I might also mention that the benefits of Sydney Harbour are not enjoyed by foreign ownership, nor are they likely to diminish over time.

 

[Mr Magoo]

I dunno, how do you reckon a poll will go in three years time when we compare Port coach Dean Laidley to Collingwood coach Mark Williams?

See, I can take unsubstantiated rumours that haven't actually been said by the parties involved and make sweeping smartarse statements about them too.


Personally I reckon in three years time it will be near impossible to separate Tippett and Walker in terms of talent, they'll both be absolute guns

This lad will be a much better player than Tipett

 

[cmndstab]

This lad will be a much better player than Tipett

Oh .

 

[Toots Hibbert]

by what measure? it's still promoting tourism, leisure, national identity and lifestyle the world over;



ah the naivety of someone who thinks the answer is obvious and chooses the wrong one. a very limited world view you have there.

I assume you'd rather live in Roxby than Rose Bay?



I've used a comparative example, how did you get so easily confused into thinking an illustrative example was narrowing an industry down to that example? c'mon toots, your mind is playing tricks on you again.

anyway, I might also mention that the benefits of Sydney Harbour are not enjoyed by foreign ownership, nor are they likely to diminish over time.

Fantastic. The 3 billion dollar wine industry brings us respect. Let me ask you what you think this country would look like without the floods of money coming into Australia from the massively bigger mining industry. Oh and a crack at foreign ownership! lol you portray yourself as a corporate high flyer yet you come out with this nonsense! Yep lets not have any of that and be a quiet backwater that can't afford modern conveniences.


What's missing is a response to the question:- which states have boomed in the past decade. Mining states or Harbour states?

PS You apparently didn't notice my comment some pages back that tourism and mining are not mutually exclusive. Do you think that Roxby Downs is somehow harmful? That's what comes across in your Womens Weekly portrayal of the issue.

 

[Crow-mo]

Fantastic. The 3 billion dollar wine industry brings us respect. Let me ask you what you think this country would look like without the floods of money coming into Australia from the massively bigger mining industry. Oh and a crack at foreign ownership! lol you portray yourself as a corporate high flyer yet you come out with this nonsense! Yep lets not have any of that and be a quiet backwater that can't afford modern conveniences.

good to see you fire up toots. when will you be moving to aberdeen?

What's missing is a response to the question:- which states have boomed in the past decade. Mining states or Harbour states?

PS You apparently didn't notice my comment some pages back that tourism and mining are not mutually exclusive. Do you think that Roxby Downs is somehow harmful? That's what comes across in your Womens Weekly portrayal of the issue.

I always like it when you get flustered, you put words into people's mouths. that's twice in 2 posts. good times.

Roxby downs is broadly irrelevant. I have no opinion on whether its harmful and care less. which is kinda my point.

do you think we should cut all cultural and social programs, and use the money to dig some more pits? who needs arts funding, when you can buy some drills. or maybe, just maybe you can try employ just a little sophistication in your outlook, and see things in the wider cultural light.

or would you prefer easing the child labour laws so we can set up some sweat shops, and import some bangaladeshi kids - I hear they're good at piece work. we can get some cheap asbestos insulation, so that'll help the economics too.

though I am curious to see that you think mining is a source of tourism. that's an interesting perspective. when did you last go visit a mine?

ah look, here's the thing toots. I don't think for a second you believe half of what you've written. its just a little too monochromatic.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

I always like it when you get flustered, you put words into people's mouths. that's twice in 2 posts. good times.

Sorry, putting words in other people's mouths is your schtick. One need go no further than you ignoring a number of comments of mine stating that mining and tourism are not mutually exclusive and attempting to attribute views which I have not expressed such as opposition to arts funding. Or more ridiculous still implying that I think people flood to mine sites. (Having said that I was taken to see a huge open cut coal mine in the north of China many years ago. Amazingly they still had fires going which had been deliberately lit by the Japanese prior to their defeat in WWII. )

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do you think we should cut all cultural and social programs, and use the money to dig some more pits? who needs arts funding, when you can buy some drills. or maybe, just maybe you can try employ just a little sophistication in your outlook, and see things in the wider cultural light.

You're getting more than a little hysterical here.

However on the matter of your continuing insistance that mining and the finer things in life are mutually exclusive as witness your claim that buying more mining drills would limit the money available for arts funding could I point out that a country made wealthy by mining can afford to spend more on arts funding. Not only by way of government funding but also by way of, shock horror, mining entreprenours like the late Robert Holmes a Court who funded among other things an art gallery and promoted aboriginal art. A little sophistication in your own thinking would clearly benefit your ability to pursued here.

BTW I think I've got a pretty fair appreciation for the yarts thanks. My wife and I have poured money into our kids musical development and we're regular attendees at artistic venues of various sorts.

or would you prefer easing the child labour laws so we can set up some sweat shops, and import some bangaladeshi kids - I hear they're good at piece work. we can get some cheap asbestos insulation, so that'll help the economics too.

though I am curious to see that you think mining is a source of tourism. that's an interesting perspective. when did you last go visit a mine?

ah look, here's the thing toots. I don't think for a second you believe half of what you've written. its just a little too monochromatic.

Speaking of flustered, your bolded comments are ridiculous in the extreme and I'd say look distinctly like they come from a flustered poster.

 

[subaru]

Toots Hibbert;14957741]A little sophistication in your own thinking would clearly benefit your ability to pursued here.

BTW I think I've got a pretty fair appreciation for the yarts thanks. My wife and I have poured money into our kids musical development and we're regular attendees at artistic venues of various sorts.
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Elitist snob!

 

[Toots Hibbert]

"quote=Toots Hibbert;14957741]A little sophistication in your own thinking would clearly benefit your ability to pursued here.

BTW I think I've got a pretty fair appreciation for the yarts thanks. My wife and I have poured money into our kids musical development and we're regular attendees at artistic venues of various sorts.
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Elitist snob! "

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[subaru]

"quote=Toots Hibbert;14957741]A little sophistication in your own thinking would clearly benefit your ability to pursued here.

BTW I think I've got a pretty fair appreciation for the yarts thanks. My wife and I have poured money into our kids musical development and we're regular attendees at artistic venues of various sorts.
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