Agree completely.
For me it goes AFLCA>Brownlow>MVP in terms of actually rating a season.
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Chris Judd MVP
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For me it goes AFLCA>Brownlow>MVP in terms of actually rating a season.
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Awards where votes are entered round-by-round would logically follow as the most comprehensive over a season.
Each award has it's own take - MVP seems to reward the most imposing opposition player, the one you'd least like to be matched up on.
Each award has it's own take - MVP seems to reward the most imposing opposition player, the one you'd least like to be matched up on.
Not sure what you mean by "true context," the AFL players have voted Judd the most valuable.
But I guess the AFL players don't know what "true context" really means, ain't that right?
I think that the MVP and the coach's awards are far better indications of a player's worth than the Brownlow. I would rate the coach's award first and the player's awards second. I have never really rated the Brownlow.
Have no problems with Judd winning the Brownlow last year as he had a very good year and was in a group of players who could have won. Not a bolter.
I would have picked Ablett as the player of the year this year, but Judd has also had a fabulous season and is a deserving winner. I rate the player's opinions higher than my own.
I will be amazed if Judd doesn't win both the Brownlow(umps love him), and the coach's award( the ultimate award IMO) as his form this year speaks for itself.
The big dollars, shadowy Visy deal and playing for Carlton have unfortunately coloured a lot of people against Judd. It's a pity as he is one of the players of his generation.
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Prepare to be amazed, Judd will not win the AFLCA Award.
Yeah, they'd love him a la Bucks if he earned big dollars at Collingwood instead, got regular Channel 9 gigs from Eddie and played for the Filth.
Call it what it is: pure jealously.
As for the MVP ... what would the players know anyway?
It's either him or Murphy. Either one will be by a slim margin.
At the moment:
83 - Murphy
80 - Judd
This is before the Fremantle game where you'd expect Judd to get 9-10 and Murphy to get 4-5. Judd won't poll for the rest of the year. So will be really close.
And he kicked fifty against the Roos when Carlton needed a goal earlier this year.
Also, the "can't play in the ruck" is a bit stupid. Ablett, Swan and Pendlebury can't play in the ruck. Does that mean Quinten Lynch is a more valuable player than them?
Nerv_01
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Even more ridiculous when you consider Adam Goodes hasn't played in the ruck since he injured his knees.
baja
Premiership Player
laminex
Go Blues.
He did, then the AFL took it from him and said the Sydney Swans need it becasue we have to pay for all the bills at that joint. They are like the child that can never support itself so they come begging ever year for more money.
Nerv_01
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LOL what is with all of these Sydney posters whinging? Is it because he won the Norm Smith in '05 when his team lost? Surely you cant think Adam Goodes has had a better season than him considering how quiet he was early and mid-way through this year.He did, then the AFL took it from him and said the Sydney Swans need it becasue we have to pay for all the bills at that joint. They are like the child that can never support itself so they come begging ever year for more money.
Mark25Jackson
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I lol'd.
You miss the point....
Swan in 2010 won
Tha AFL Coaches award
The AFL players MVP
The Collingwood BnF in a premiership year
Bob Rose award - voted by the Collingwood coaching staff to the player who performed best over the entire finals series
A plethora of media awards - HS player of the Year, The Age player of the Year and the Lou Richards medal to name a few
He was named the AA Ruck Rover
Swan was a raging fav for the brownlow, the shortest priced fav since Crawf in 1999
It was because of all the above why people tended to ignore Judd's brownlow win, where Carlton fanboys attempt to use the brownlow as some evidence that Judd was the best player in 2010....clearly he wasn't.
The MVP is simply one interpretation of who the best player is....
S.Mitchell won the HS award
S.Mitchell also won the ABC radio player of the year
M.Murphy and Ablett tied for the age player of the year award
2011 is a much more open year, with different players sharing the awards....unlike 2010 when Swan almost had a clean sweep.
And now we have collingwood fanboys upset because Swan not only didn't win the Brownlow ..he didn't even come second !
2010 Brownlow medal winner Chris Judd Carlton.
All the whiny threads on BF will never change that fact .
Good on Judd.
Swan won every other award imaginable in 2010...he was clearly the best in 2010.
Will be a laugh when M.Murphy wins the Carlton BnF and the coaches association best player award...more evidence of the tugfest that surrounds Judd in the media!
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simione001
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great choice. judd definitely mvp 4 this season.
Barnzy
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MVP went missing in both finals when his team needed him most. Yet they say the best players lift in the big games. Well beaten by Heath Hocking and Scott Selwood and had little to no influence on both games.
Meanwhile Pendlebury picked up 38 touches against West Coast in Collingwood's first final and was dominant despite getting tags being rotated off him by both Selwood's. Just saying.
Meanwhile Pendlebury picked up 38 touches against West Coast in Collingwood's first final and was dominant despite getting tags being rotated off him by both Selwood's. Just saying.
I think even when Judd has an off night, he still has an influence. Just the fact that he demands as much attention as he does from the opposition gives our other guys the opportunities they wouldn't have if he were absent. You can say that he had a stinker on Saturday, but i don't believe we would've made a close contest like we did if he wasn't there.
Of course the media has an impact. The media builds up reputations, players vote on reputation....players don't award votes after every game.
If M.Murphy wins the Carlton BnF, Judd ain't even the best player in his own team.....yet the media pump him up and he wins awards on reputation