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Jasper84 said:
From the AFL website:

TACKLE:Using physical contact to prevent an
opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal.
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A bit angry there bud, does it make Mayne's tackles any more effective?, your just polishing a turd, watch the first and seco0nd quarters, lol
 
DaVe86 said:
Having played Dream Team for 15 years, I've never understood what classifies as a tackle, and what doesn't. Sometimes, a player half sticks a tackle and the opponent has no trouble getting the ball away, and it is paid. Other times, a player lays a beautiful tackle and they don't pay it.

I've come to realise that what constitutes a tackle depends largely on the guy doing the stats, and also certain players seem to get them paid easier than others.

I must admit I didn't really notice 9 Mayne tackles yesterday, but I concede he had a dip defensively.
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It's whether or not the bloke you are tackling gets away an effective disposal - does it go to a teammate or not.
 
parvey said:
A bit angry there bud, does it make Mayne's tackles any more effective?, your just polishing a turd, watch the first and seco0nd quarters, lol
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It's was a cut and paste job from the site, so no anger whatsoever. The discussion was what constitutes a tackle. I gave the AFL definition, bud.
 

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Jasper84 said:
It's was a cut and paste job from the site, so no anger whatsoever.
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You need to watch at least the first 2 quarters, look, all I'm saying is that we need to move past the likes of Mayne and Blair, they have little to no impact on a game and make our forward line impotent, that's my opinion and if you think otherwise then all and good, lets see what happens aye!
 
parvey said:
You need to watch at least the first 2 quarters, look, all I'm saying is that we need to move past the likes of Mayne and Blair, they have little to no impact on a game and make our forward line impotent, that's my opinion and if you think otherwise then all and good, lets see what happens aye!
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Is there a reason why you keep telling people to only watch Mayne's first two quarters and not the whole game?
 
Jasper84 said:
From the AFL website:

TACKLE:Using physical contact to prevent an
opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal.
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So when anyone tackles

dusty or danger or some high profile player they don’t get credited with a tackle.

You can swing them around three and eventually somehow they get the ball away....

Mere mortals are called holding the ball way before.

Different rules maybe for them...
 
Jasper84 said:
Is there a reason why you keep telling people to only watch Mayne's first two quarters and not the whole game?
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He seems to be pointing out two example of Mayne getting brushed aside getting counted as tackles???

If that's the case he doesn't realise that they might not be the Mayne tackles that were counted.
 
Saintly Viewed said:
So when anyone tackles

dusty or danger or some high profile player they don’t get credited with a tackle.

You can swing them around three and eventually somehow they get the ball away....

Mere mortals are called holding the ball way before.

Different rules maybe for them...
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No they have to get an effective disposal, if they get rid of it and turn it over you get credited with a tackle.
 
parvey said:
You might want to check that, it's attempted tackles Mr. phd
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Source?

Last time I checked a tackle stat is only counted when the tackle causes a stoppage, a turnover, or the player with the ball is dispossessed.

Effective tackles are those that have been recorded since Champion Data became the AFL's official statisticians in 1999. To be rewarded with an effective tackle, you must force a stoppage, win a free kick, dispossess your opponent or force them into an ineffective disposal. Wrapping up a player who gets a clean handball away will not get you a tackle on the stats sheet.
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http://championdata.fansunite.com.au/2015/09/04/19232/tackle-efficiency

It’s generally a good idea to do a check yourself before telling others to do one... Mr. PhD.
 
mike123 said:
No they have to get an effective disposal, if they get rid of it and turn it over you get credited with a tackle.
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Fair enough.

I was more about certain players getting so much rope when they have the ball...
 
parvey said:
It's the same as kicking efficiency, as long as your kicks go over 40 meters they are regarded as efficient, as long as both arms have attempted to tackle the player it is a tackle, watch the game agian and you will see, an absolute ****en spud, his best possy is now on the wing but he too slow and has no penetration to play there, so who does he replace on the wing?, what happened to the great forward he was supposed to be?
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Think you're wrong.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-12-28/stats-glossary-every-stat-explained
 

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Just for a bit of Chris Mayne fun.

Imagine if Varcoe had the Mayne numbers from yesterday?

The board would be pooping plops of joy ...


Ps I like Varcoe but he’s a little untouchable so using him as a comparison
 
Saintly Viewed said:
Just for a bit of Chris Mayne fun.

Imagine if Varcoe had the Mayne numbers from yesterday?

The board would be pooping plops of joy ...


Ps I like Varcoe but he’s a little untouchable so using him as a comparison
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Varcoe is an outside player so it really isn't really comparable, plus he's copped a fair bit of late anyways.
 
parvey said:
Why jump in to other peoples arguments, he had 1 free kick for, how many times did he force a stoppage? How many times did he cause an ineffectual disposal, 1 free kick for says it all, did I call you Mr phd?, now piss of and go do the dishes for your mum you hero, ****en troll
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Why don't you use the demotion of the stat to prove your point instead of going on a tantrum?
 
mike123 said:
Why don't you use the demotion of the stat to prove your point instead of going on a tantrum?
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Because I'm sick of gutless trolls on here who hide behind their keyboards, poor excuses for men, I bet they wouldn't be game enough to say the shit they say to peoples faces. I know about the demotion of the stat it's the keyboard warriors who claim they know it all , to even contemplate that Mayne is a good footballer is enough for me not to take these trolls seriously
 
mike123 said:
Varcoe is an outside player so it really isn't really comparable, plus he's copped a fair bit of late anyways.
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Varcoe does a lot of little things. Oft missed.
You see it on the field. The one per centers.
Dunn is another that does little things that helps.
 

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Apex36 said:
Can’t believe Mayne is getting praise for playing on the wing. You want your wing men to be guys who can get the outside ball and drive it forward. The best wingers in the game have between 300-600m gained per game. Maynes contribution yesterday? 154m gained from 25 disposals, meaning he was gaining an average of a whopping 6m per disposal. That’s as bad as Blair’s effort the other week. Non damaging disposals, and heaps of tackles because he’s constantly second to the ball. Can’t kick more than 30m. He’s not AFL standard anymore and we’ve been a significantly worse outfit since he and Blair were recalled.
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That is a very reasonable response.

The wing references are basically to highlight that he is not playing the same role that Fasolo would play.

The meters gained is a bit chicken and egg for mine...if there is no option for him to kick to, isn’t it smarter to hold up and go laterally try and feed it to a dasher?

Some posters have just decided that Mayne isn’t up to it...any mistake he makes is what people remember. EVery thread suggesting changes basically has a default Mayne out option.

He was fine yesterday, top 3 for pressure acts and tackles...whilst also having more score involvements, disposals and meters gained than Varcoe and Thomas.

That game just proved he is still AFL standard...not a star, but will do his job
 
parvey said:
Why jump in to other peoples arguments, he had 1 free kick for, how many times did he force a stoppage? How many times did he cause an ineffectual disposal, 1 free kick for says it all, did I call you Mr phd?, now piss of and go do the dishes for your mum you hero, ****en troll
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Who’s angry now? If you want to start an argument on a public forum then you should be prepared for others to jump in, and also be prepared to have your argument destroyed if you haven’t done your homework properly before mouthing off at others.

Accept that you were wrong and stop resorting to personal abuse. Christ, I’m not even a Mayne advocate, but I trust the tackle stat more than your hyperbole.
 
Saintly Viewed said:
Varcoe does a lot of little things. Oft missed.
You see it on the field. The one per centers.
Dunn is another that does little things that helps.
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That but also playing on the outside you generally get less then stats then on the inside.
 
Apex36 said:
Can’t believe Mayne is getting praise for playing on the wing. You want your wing men to be guys who can get the outside ball and drive it forward. The best wingers in the game have between 300-600m gained per game. Maynes contribution yesterday? 154m gained from 25 disposals, meaning he was gaining an average of a whopping 6m per disposal. That’s as bad as Blair’s effort the other week. Non damaging disposals, and heaps of tackles because he’s constantly second to the ball. Can’t kick more than 30m. He’s not AFL standard anymore and we’ve been a significantly worse outfit since he and Blair were recalled.
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Because the audience can't see a dead cat bounce until it hits the pavement again...
 

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