Very tongue in cheek, that was.Nah. Jenkins' best footy is behind him.
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Very tongue in cheek, that was.Nah. Jenkins' best footy is behind him.
The Tom Hawkins brain fade he could not control plus key injuries to Mitch Duncan and the young up and comer
Jordan Clark. Plus when he was coach the team brought in Tim Kelly and Tom Stewart two players that make
you think where have they been hiding, I know he was not responsible for this directly, but he was there at the
very least. Geelong faded late which had to be expected given the age of their list, their methodology has to be
questioned focus on conceding and control, but Clarkson values similar attributes.
and I will say that he was a first class coach of anything.. Clarko has nothing on his method of complaining.. that is a compliment if you didn't know it..
- Whinging about finals venues
- Refusing to play a recognised ruck
- Refusing to play Blicavs as a defender
- Refusing to acknowledge opposition performances - most notably Charlie Cameron and Tom Lynch - refusing to make any moves to negate them in game
- Refusing to accept responsibility for anything
GMHBA is an official ground as far as I am aware so why in 2019 when Geelong finish on top of the ladder doWhinging about finals venues
GMHBA is an official ground as far as I am aware so why in 2019 when Geelong finish on top of the ladder do
they have to play the fourth finishing Collingwood at the MCG their home ground in the qualifying final. Give
Geelong a reward for being minor premiers make Collingwood suffer for finishing fourth by travelling by bus
down to the hollow. In 2013 Geelong finished 2nd and played the 3rd finishing Fremantle at GMHBA why was
that because they were an interstate side again it was the qualifying final and Fremantle won to everyone's
surprise proving the Ross Lyon anywhere, anytime mantra to be correct. Now this must be confusing for the
Geelong folks the potential size of the crowd combined with the dollars returned determines the home venue
for the early finals. In 2016 the Bulldogs had to play a preliminary final at giants stadium and you know what
the giants deserved it because they finished higher on the ladder, now would they have got a bigger crowd
at the MCG, yes and would they have run out of beer at half time, no and some of our supporters had to
wash a glorious victory down with apple cider and like the cider they are still bitter.
GMHBA is an official ground as far as I am aware so why in 2019 when Geelong finish on top of the ladder do
they have to play the fourth finishing Collingwood at the MCG their home ground in the qualifying final. Give
Geelong a reward for being minor premiers make Collingwood suffer for finishing fourth by travelling by bus
down to the hollow. In 2013 Geelong finished 2nd and played the 3rd finishing Fremantle at GMHBA why was
that because they were an interstate side again it was the qualifying final and Fremantle won to everyone's
surprise proving the Ross Lyon anywhere, anytime mantra to be correct. Now this must be confusing for the
Geelong folks the potential size of the crowd combined with the dollars returned determines the home venue
for the early finals. In 2016 the Bulldogs had to play a preliminary final at giants stadium and you know what
the giants deserved it because they finished higher on the ladder, now would they have got a bigger crowd
at the MCG, yes and would they have run out of beer at half time, no and some of our supporters had to
wash a glorious victory down with apple cider and like the cider they are still bitter.
I don't know either man enough to make a judgement call on their coaching ability or how well they communicateI’ve said it before, I have two major criticisms of Chris Scott which put him behind Dimma in terms of coaching prowess.
Geelong faded late which had to be expected given the age of their list, their methodology has to be questioned focus on conceding and control, but Clarkson values similar attributes.
You can't plan for injury Duncan and Clark and no one expected Hawkins to have yet another moment thatThen they shouldn’t have an old list then. If they aren’t primed to perform in September then there’s something seriously wrong.
You can't plan for injury Duncan and Clark and no one expected Hawkins to have yet another moment that
can only lead to regret. Carlton had a similar issue with the Eddie Betts scenario to the Gary Ablett coming
home, not that I am comparing the two players or situations. Geelong should have won the flag just as
Richmond should have won in 2018, but the timing of the season conspired against them both in similar
ways. I agree with you a little in that Geelong got the balance wrong, 1,462 points conceded was the best
performance ever dating back to 1990, but 1,984 points for had been bettered a staggering 23 x times
since 1990. To use an analogy if a team manages to knock the Geelong truck into neutral can the said
truck be put back into gear if you take away two of the key gears after half time.
Mate, we had massive injuries at the start of the year, and had to adjust to having Rance out.
No slight on Hawkins, he gets a rough run around here from some, but I think he's a fine player. I would consider Rance a bigger out though.
With the outs you had, I think your compatriot is right, it was an error not to play Blicavs down back. I don't think it can be explained away, it was just a mistake.
We were struggling the last 5-6 weeks of the regular season. Papering over cracks. We were cooked.Richmond were clearly the best team in 2018 for most of the season, but spluttered badly in the Prelim final. There may have been legitimate queries on Martin and Astbury, but once you take the field, there are no excuses. They showed this year they'd learned from it, and atoned for it in the best possible way.
It's still our best back, not there.The thing here is with Rance/Hawkins, the Tigers had all year to work out how to cover Rance. Cats had 1 week to sort out Hawkins
No, but you can judge them on moves.You cannot judge a coach based on a few cut away shots when he is usually angry
and press conferences with scripted answers meant to say nothing.
Too many Geelong fans - especially where the coach is concerned - now have an endless well of excuses.
Most of the work is done during the week, including anticipating the counter moves the rival coach could useNo, but you can judge them on moves.
No, but you can judge them on moves.
Leaving Rhys Stanley out against Magpies.
And playing a great defender like Blicavs on a wing when Richmond have 2 KPF's, that's on Scott.
... and no one expected Hawkins to have yet another moment that
can only lead to regret.
no one expected?
Given his track record of borderline reportable offences, this was quite predictable, if not 'expected'. Which leads to the question...Why didn't someone (like, say, the head coach) tell him in no uncertain terms to pull his head in? There were plenty of chances, over several years, after all.
Sure, you can't make any guarantees it would have changed things in this one case, but the chances of reoccurence could (and should) have been reduced, improving his chances of being available.
And they say the Dinosaurs had small brains, Tomahawkasaurus who needs Jurassic Park they still live amongstno one expected?
Given his track record of borderline reportable offences, this was quite predictable, if not 'expected'. Which leads to the question...Why didn't someone (like, say, the head coach) tell him in no uncertain terms to pull his head in? There were plenty of chances, over several years, after all.
Sure, you can't make any guarantees it would have changed things in this one case, but the chances of reoccurence could (and should) have been reduced, improving his chances of being available.
You don't think Hawkins has been counselled by the coach, teammates, club officials and the like? We give footballers too much credit on BF. Some are simply more prone to inexplicable brain fades. What Hawkins did in the SF was unforgivable. Some of what he did in previous games for which he got suspended was laughable and damn unlucky, e.g., the innocuous jumper punch.no one expected?
Given his track record of borderline reportable offences, this was quite predictable, if not 'expected'. Which leads to the question...Why didn't someone (like, say, the head coach) tell him in no uncertain terms to pull his head in? There were plenty of chances, over several years, after all.
Sure, you can't make any guarantees it would have changed things in this one case, but the chances of reoccurence could (and should) have been reduced, improving his chances of being available.
no one expected?
Given his track record of borderline reportable offences, this was quite predictable, if not 'expected'. Which leads to the question...Why didn't someone (like, say, the head coach) tell him in no uncertain terms to pull his head in? There were plenty of chances, over several years, after all.
Sure, you can't make any guarantees it would have changed things in this one case, but the chances of reoccurence could (and should) have been reduced, improving his chances of being available.
You don't think Hawkins has been counselled by the coach, teammates, club officials and the like? We give footballers too much credit on BF. Some are simply more prone to inexplicable brain fades. What Hawkins did in the SF was unforgivable. Some of what he did in previous games for which he got suspended was laughable and damn unlucky, e.g., the innocuous jumper punch.
As much as BF posters would like to sheet home blame to Chris Scott you can't blame the coach for Hawkins' brain fade in the SF
Clearly he wasn't EFFECTIVELY counselled, and given that communicating with players is the coaches primary job, that's a pretty major omission.
What he got done for in previous games should have been the message...Right or wrong, they're watching you and will jump on anything you do, so you can't afford to push the boundaries.
Given Scott's usual (public) behavior, you can't help but wonder if the message was probably more along the line of complaints and excuses, which would have just given him license to continue.
It goes back way further than the current coach. Tom Hafey - with Ablett and Jackson. Blight could barely manage Ablett's over exuberance on the field. Then there was Mooney under Bomber. Wasn't he suspended multiple times in one season?This goes right back to Scarlett in 2012 when he smacked Ballantyne, to Steve Johnson's silly indiscretions in 2013, to Bartel, Kelly, and Selwood as well. Yet to see any evidence that they have changed anything.