Name the players developed under him who were not trade-ins or mature-aged recruits.The talent he has replaced brick by brick across the entire team without any top draft picks is just insane to be sitting where we are.
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Name the players developed under him who were not trade-ins or mature-aged recruits.The talent he has replaced brick by brick across the entire team without any top draft picks is just insane to be sitting where we are.
Every player that wasn't developed by Bomber.Name the players developed under him who were not trade-ins or mature-aged recruits.
Name the players developed under him who were not trade-ins or mature-aged recruits.
With less? Scott has always had a good solid list of players at his disposal, first because he took over Bomber's side and then because Geelong was able to recruit a bunch of established players. Scott came into Geelong when it was a powerhouse, in premiership contention, financially stable and with quality people all around. Bomber came around when the club was mired in mediocrity and had a list of also-rans and kids. He built a premiership-standard list and took it to two flags personally, and then the list was good enough to win another one without him. He didn't get players like Dangerfield handed to him.Its a massive 'if', but if he manages to take them to a Flag this year, he will be the best coach I've seen in my lifetime at Geelong.
Will have done as much as Bomber with less.
With less? Scott has always had a good solid list of players at his disposal, first because he took over Bomber's side and then because Geelong was able to recruit a bunch of established players. Scott came into Geelong when it was a powerhouse, in premiership contention, financially stable and with quality people all around. Bomber came around when the club was mired in mediocrity and had a list of also-rans and kids. He built a premiership-standard list and took it to two flags personally, and then the list was good enough to win another one without him. He didn't get players like Dangerfield handed to him.
I know you might be sore about Bomber's association with the drug saga. I know that's soured perceptions of him and tarnished his reputation, but we have to be honest here. He's the best coach the club had in modern history, perhaps of all time, and it would take something amazing from Scott to ever come close. Scott has maintained a stable ship since 2011, but that ship doesn't exist without Thompson and posters would do well to remember that.
Wonder how he feels about losing Brad in the fraternity of coaches this year.
Suspect Brad will not be unemployed for too long.
Definitely worth acknowledging. There are many here who have long had faith in his coaching and game plan. There are many who rightly predicted we would significantly improve this year. They probably don't need to acknowledge it, but I bet they do.Given the 10-1 record I reckon there needs to be a bit of credit given here.
The job aint done nor is this the point to hang the hat.
The gameplan with this list works.
The preseason plan to shift the focus and train more has worked.
The hold possession and slow it down and then go fast has worked.
There are still issues and the **** still stinks when dropped - and the clearances can be an issue.
But at 10-1 and 1 game off the bye -its a decent spot to be in.
Plenty of monkeys have thrown poo and thats fine - but to be where we are deserves some credit given to the coaching group for getting this far.
#inb4itswhathappensinfinalsthatcounts.
And im sure there will be the historical 2012 - 2018 wish wash too - some of which is relevant - but we are still 10-1 and thats a fair effort no doubt.
Go Catters
At this point, what would you consider a pass mark for the season?Given the 10-1 record I reckon there needs to be a bit of credit given here.
The job aint done nor is this the point to hang the hat.
The gameplan with this list works.
The preseason plan to shift the focus and train more has worked.
The hold possession and slow it down and then go fast has worked.
There are still issues and the **** still stinks when dropped - and the clearances can be an issue.
But at 10-1 and 1 game off the bye -its a decent spot to be in.
Plenty of monkeys have thrown poo and thats fine - but to be where we are deserves some credit given to the coaching group for getting this far.
#inb4itswhathappensinfinalsthatcounts.
And im sure there will be the historical 2012 - 2018 wish wash too - some of which is relevant - but we are still 10-1 and thats a fair effort no doubt.
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Wouldn't mind if the club were to reach out to Bolton and offer him a position.
He seems to be a good guy who was in a really bad situation at Carlton, would make a good development coach and would also be able to impart a bit of the IP he picked up at Hawthorn
It's not correct to discount the mature agers. Stewart and Menegola are not the same players they were when drafted. Kelly you could argue was already great when drafted but he has also improved. It's also not correct to discount trade ins, given that Stanley had to learn an entirely new role.Name the players developed under him who were not trade-ins or mature-aged recruits.
I understand why Collingwood is being talked up after last years GF
Look at Melbourne. Gone from world beaters to a side looking at benching senior players in favour of youth 8 months later..? It's the same team! The only thing that's changed since last year is their attitude. They're an arrogant group IMO, a group who thought success was imminent after last year. Fail.
Until I see different, I'm assuming we'll struggle in finals. I don't see how anyone could think different. If Collingwood get to the Grand Final this year (likely), beating them at the MCG will be exceptionally difficult for anyone.
Another myth. Not only denying Scott's ability as a coach but denying him the premiership he coached. Take it to the Scott thread, that is what it's for.100% correct. We've no reason to believe our finals campaign this year (if we make it) will be any different to years gone by. This season could be one that changes the tide. I hope so, but when was the last time we played three huge finals-pressure games in a row and came out on top every time? We've only done that once under Scott, and in his first year when a very seasoned and professional team were essentially coaching themselves. Scott didn't earn that premiership. If we somehow win this year, it will be 100% earned.
Another myth. Not only denying Scott's ability as a coach but denying him the premiership he coached. Take it to the Scott thread, that is what it's for.
I don't fully agree with you. Given our current position and if we beat Richmond this week, then I think it's fair to accept the Cats will figure prominently in finals this year and probably win some games. You can't discard everything you've seen this year so far based on the the finals of the last few seasons. That's an equal folly to thinking we're currently got the premiership in the bag. But can our lads can win the flag? Well, that's an altogether different kettle of fish. It's too soon to call at this point IMO. Let's see how they're playing in round 22. But given what we've seen so far this year this season, I don't think it's unreasonable to have cautious optimism at this point.We've no reason to believe our finals campaign this year (if we make it) will be any different to years gone by.
How did Bomber not win in 2010 then?- Chris Scott inherited one of the best teams to ever play the game, and I'd honestly struggle to imagine any coach getting in the way of those guys winning that flag. He inherited a behemoth tumbling downhill toward the finish line. All he had to do was help stay the course.
given that the team is quite clearly different, and playing a different brand of footy to last year, then the expectation should be that the finals will be approached ion a different manner.
To just say that a restructured team and manner of playing hasn't proven anything in finals, when obviously they haven't played finals, is taking the piss out of "glass half empty".
Yeah it has happened before and I've been more cynical than anyone.I get that, sure. But for how many years now has the side 'changed their brand', and 'restructured the team', not to mention altered personnel. Yet still struggle to meet their opposition in terms of intent in finals. It's a horrible record.
Like I said, I won't be surprised if they do fail. I didn't say they will.
Apologies [SNIP]
If the Cats won the premiership this season, which of the two flags would mean the most to Chris Scott?
This year does feel a lot different for me though.