Opinion Chris Scott's coaching - Part 1 [closed, see Part II]

Will Chris Scott see out his contract until the end of 2017?

  • Yes

    Votes: 79 79.0%
  • No

    Votes: 21 21.0%

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Farmer2Goggin

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There is so much to like about this team in comparison to last year.

The midfield depth and top end talent (Dangerfield, Duncan, Bartel, Menzel, Cockatoo as regulars)
The ruck talent (two of Stanley, Smith, Vardy as regulars)
The guys delivering inside 50 (Menzel, Kersten, Duncan, Dangerfield)
Forward pressure (Kersten, Menzel, McCarthy)
Blicavs as a tagger
Guthrie as a utility

These are all new changes and they've made the world of difference. It's a credit to Wells, the coaching staff and particular Scott.
That's a fantastic summary DanA
I'm not a huge David King fan but I do like his use of "brand"
Whilst I don't get to see the boys live I sense our brand is revolving around intense pressure between the arcs to create turnovers and keep possession. We seem to vary the pace of movement into F50 between steady ( finding free targets) and breakneck speed initially followed more by kicking than running it in with handball. We are also brilliant at locking it in F50 with fantastic pressure. We are leading or close to it for marks, particularly for inside 50's
We've also lifted our clearances and contested possession numbers - that with the above looks like a great formula for finals footy.
Upside is that the team will get to know each other better as the season rolls on - great time to be a Cat :thumbsu:
 

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Absolute nonsense! Collingwood came 3rd in the league last year for cp's v opponent are you telling me that with a bunch of kids they had a better midfield available to them than Scott in 2012, 13, 14? It was the system Scott chose not personnel.
It might be nonsense in your mind, but not in that of many others.

Scott worked with Lloyd for 2 years at Freo, but you suggest it's only now he's having any influence on Scott??
 

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Absolute nonsense! Collingwood came 3rd in the league last year for cp's v opponent are you telling me that with a bunch of kids they had a better midfield available to them than Scott in 2012, 13, 14? It was the system Scott chose not personnel.

1. Collingwood actually came 6th for contested possessions and 11th for hitouts.
2. Pendlebury, Sidebottom & Swan aren't kids
3. Scott was smart enough to adapt the game plan to get the most out of personel, Buckley was not. Hence they finished 12th while we finished 6th, 3rd & 2nd in the H&A season.
 

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You can believe that if you want. Basically you're saying that Scott deliberately coached a quality midfield to lose the contested possessions and clearances badly and regularly. Pardon the rest of us if we find that a little hard to swallow.
So you're suggesting that it's stupid to say that a midfield that could win contests was suddenly physically unable to win contests because of Scott and Scott alone? He must have tied their hands together during games.

I wonder if there were any other factors to this. Retirements of specific positional players that made the sum of the whole better than the individual? New players to the system? Evolution of other team's gameplans? An awareness of Geelong's gameplan? Players becoming older? Players having specific tactics implemented against them?

Surely performance on the park is the sum of all of these factors and gameplan and coaching is just one of them?
 

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It might be nonsense in your mind, but not in that of many others.

Scott worked with Lloyd for 2 years at Freo, but you suggest it's only now he's having any influence on Scott??
Blighty has an anyone but Scott mentality. If a great coaching failure like K Bartlett appeared he'd get pats from Blighty over CS. Sad really.
 
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Been a long time observer but have barely posted but...
All of you that said Scott can't coach etc can get stuffed.
The bloke didn't trip and fall into being a premiership coach and has managed the transition from 2011 team to 2016 better than any coach in the Comp. to borrow a quote from bomber Thompson...
"For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him. It's just rubbish. You people, all of you, ALL OF YOU, leave him alone!"
 

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Been a long time observer but have barely posted but...
All of you that said Scott can't coach etc can get stuffed.
The bloke didn't trip and fall into being a premiership coach and has managed the transition from 2011 team to 2016 better than any coach in the Comp. to borrow a quote from bomber Thompson...
"For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him. It's just rubbish. You people, all of you, ALL OF YOU, leave him alone!"
lol nice rant

He is starting to prove me wrong so far this season, I did say he wouldn't take us to another flag but if he does that's one humble pie I would be glade to eat!
 

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There is so much to like about this team in comparison to last year.

The midfield depth and top end talent (Dangerfield, Duncan, Bartel, Menzel, Cockatoo as regulars)
The ruck talent (two of Stanley, Smith, Vardy as regulars)
The guys delivering inside 50 (Menzel, Kersten, Duncan, Dangerfield)
Forward pressure (Kersten, Menzel, McCarthy)
Blicavs as a tagger
Guthrie as a utility

These are all new changes and they've made the world of difference. It's a credit to Wells, the coaching staff and particular Scott.
Don't forget Caddy!
 

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Been a long time observer but have barely posted but...
All of you that said Scott can't coach etc can get stuffed.
The bloke didn't trip and fall into being a premiership coach and has managed the transition from 2011 team to 2016 better than any coach in the Comp. to borrow a quote from bomber Thompson...
"For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him. It's just rubbish. You people, all of you, ALL OF YOU, leave him alone!"
Just noticed this was your 5th post..........in 12 years!
 
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Just noticed this was your 5th post..........in 12 years!
Yep I'm a real quality over quantity kind of guy...
Nah like I've said over the years I've been more of an observer just had noticed Scott seems to cop all blame for losses but very little kudos for the wins!
 

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Apologies if this was mentioned earlier but I found it so interesting that I hope it doesn't matter the info gets reposted.

Scotty Lucas in his 'not so obvious' segment mentioned Geelong play on the least from marks in the como. That took me by surprise as traditionally we were over if those frenetic play on teams.

A step further, slowing the last on down has allowed our backs to set up a bit better.

That's as far as he took that but there could be some merit to the thought. Our backline is slower. That time allows them to get into position. The games are longer, those respites provide brief breathers. Any fumbles should now hurt less in the counter. Sure this also could mean the opposition see the same benefit.

I haven't been to a live game but those that have, can you see an intent to hold things up in a planned fashion so others can set up the grid? Or is it just coincidence?
 

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Apologies if this was mentioned earlier but I found it so interesting that I hope it doesn't matter the info gets reposted.

Scotty Lucas in his 'not so obvious' segment mentioned Geelong play on the least from marks in the como. That took me by surprise as traditionally we were over if those frenetic play on teams.

A step further, slowing the last on down has allowed our backs to set up a bit better.

That's as far as he took that but there could be some merit to the thought. Our backline is slower. That time allows them to get into position. The games are longer, those respites provide brief breathers. Any fumbles should now hurt less in the counter. Sure this also could mean the opposition see the same benefit.

I haven't been to a live game but those that have, can you see an intent to hold things up in a planned fashion so others can set up the grid? Or is it just coincidence?
Yep, it has been a deliberate plan we have been following this year-it doesn't preclude the exciting dash up the middle, but its a definite and successful strategy at this point. So Scotty Lucas is, not surprisingly onto it, because its been pretty obvious, especially as you say, for a team that has traditionally played on at all costs.;)
 
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