Having been a very LT Cat supporter, we have not really had to experience the gradual and regular departure of so many immortals.
Not in my lifetime had we been a 3-flags-in-5-years team.
Admittedly, we were excellent from 89-95, and then we had some lean years until 2004.
We have all become accustomed to OUR team being the bench-mark state of the art team, and now, we simply are not.
We are still a great club, and CS has managed to hybridise our team enough to still be really competitive.
But I get the sense that many supporters here are despairing because it appears we may not be flag bound. Of course that is the ultimate goal for all teams, and yes, 2016 we were rated as a big chance. And perhaps, we had the list and luck with injuries to have done better- but even that was not our case in September.
We definitely saw a great year from Hendo, and his injury was untimely and costly, and more so, Menzel. We really needed his forward pressure and sheer class in the Swans final. He was probably off for several weeks leading to that game. Even Caddy did not impose himself on returning to the team- he had been consistent and useful pre-injury.
And there was the bye, or should I say, BYES. A definite issue.
But to say CS is a reactive coach, although obviously true in many ways, but he really has to be. We had lost significant talent as Hawthorn was meanwhile peaking, and now the new age teams are taking over. Does CS really have the sheer talent in our list to be any more proactive than what he was?
This team continues to evolve, too quickly for my liking, and CS has to as well. I just wonder whether any other coach would really do a better job. He knows his limitations and weaknesses, and we have to hope that Cook and Lloyd etc can give him the required assistance.
Having been a very LT Cat supporter, we have not really had to experience the gradual and regular departure of so many immortals.
Not in my lifetime had we been a 3-flags-in-5-years team.
Admittedly, we were excellent from 89-95, and then we had some lean years until 2004.
We have all become accustomed to OUR team being the bench-mark state of the art team, and now, we simply are not.
We are still a great club, and CS has managed to hybridise our team enough to still be really competitive.
But I get the sense that many supporters here are despairing because it appears we may not be flag bound. Of course that is the ultimate goal for all teams, and yes, 2016 we were rated as a big chance. And perhaps, we had the list and luck with injuries to have done better- but even that was not our case in September.
We definitely saw a great year from Hendo, and his injury was untimely and costly, and more so, Menzel. We really needed his forward pressure and sheer class in the Swans final. He was probably off for several weeks leading to that game. Even Caddy did not impose himself on returning to the team- he had been consistent and useful pre-injury.
And there was the bye, or should I say, BYES. A definite issue.
But to say CS is a reactive coach, although obviously true in many ways, but he really has to be. We had lost significant talent as Hawthorn was meanwhile peaking, and now the new age teams are taking over. Does CS really have the sheer talent in our list to be any more proactive than what he was?
This team continues to evolve, too quickly for my liking, and CS has to as well. I just wonder whether any other coach would really do a better job. He knows his limitations and weaknesses, and we have to hope that Cook and Lloyd etc can give him the required assistance.
2012 (0-1)
6th
Elimination final lost freo
In.
No notable trades
Orren stephenson
Kersten (32) hamling (34) mcarthy (66)
Bews father son
2013 (1-3)
2nd regular season
Lost prelim to hawthorn
No notable trade changes
2014
Geelong 3rd regular season (1-5)
Lost qualifying final hawthorn
Semi final lost north melbourne
Ins clark, stanley pick (21) S.blease
2015
Missed finals
10th
Ins
Selwood, Dangerfield, S.Selwood, Z.Smith
Menegola
2016 (2-6)
2nd regular season
Preliminary final
Black
Thuoy
When you mention hawthorn peaking they won in 2008 so they were definately on the radar. As i mentioned his record is very good and i don't expect flags every year i understand as a supporter we may not see another in my lifetime they are so hard to win. Since 2012 we have finished top (4) 3 times and and he carries a 2-6 record since 2012 in finals.
I don't believe any of the above mentioned years we went in with the best list or premiership favourites.
But this is where my perception comes in we have game and strategy coaches proactive like clarkson now he is the best in the game and the guys that were assistants to him
Simpson (grand final)
Cameron (prelim)
Beveridge (premiers)
Bolton 1 season (watch this space)
Hardwick ( not my favourite ) multiple finals
All these guys bring a new age game plan and have the ability to innovate be proactive in the box simpson with the web, bolton the press, and beveridge is well we know already.
I just do not see the same ability with chris scott he had a magnificient first season he took over an experienced list. And it has been difficult trying to regenerate it while having good results but i have never felt since 2011 that geelong has ever held a tactical advantage coaching wise. Personal opinion of course and being a biased supported if i did feel that i would praise him.
His regular season record is superb but now he has been at the helm for 5-6 seasons which is a good run for a senior coach and next year our starting side will consist of probably 8 mature age recruits that came from other clubs and it has happened while scott has been at the helm.
We will not have a first round draft selection in two seasons we have no depth in KPP outside of our starting 22.
Im not worried about premierships and winning every year i know its not realistic our golden era is nearly closed selwood ,hawkins, taylor, mackie our last remaining links. I worry about the future and us becoming carlton falling dramatically remember all our talented youngsters
Laang, Thurlow, cockatoo first round selections.
Koladashnij and gregson look like good picks.
Now we skip two years of first rounders
People will laugh at me now but project 4-5 years down the track thats where it hurts.
I don't have faith he is the man to rebuild when the time comes and it comes for every club even sydney one day.