Opinion Chris Scott's coaching - Part II [NEW POLL ADDED]

For how long will Chris Scott be Geelong coach?

  • For as long as he wants the job

  • 5+ more years

  • Somewhere between 2020 and 2022 (i.e. beyond his current contract)

  • He will be sacked/resign in 2019

  • He will be sacked/resign in 2018

  • The Nuclear Option: sacked/resign in 2017


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The fact they are so keen to get it done early is a reflection of his highly they regard his coaching abilities.

Otherwise they would wait, but they want it done and sealed asap.

No doubt they wouldn't want other clubs sniffing around after him. There are clubs who would be lining up for him if they thought the door ajar to snatch him.
I know you are just fishing for a reaction and trolling... can't believe so many others still fall for it
 

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By your own admission your favourite Geelong coach and era was Malcolm blight
He wasn't my favourite coach and I've never said that anywhere?? It was my favourite era to watch (not for achievement of the club) because of Ablett Snr and the style of footy we played which was incredibly skillful fast and attractive. You can keep making crap up about what I've said all you want but let's remember we're meant to be in the middle of an era more dominant than Hawthorn 2013-2015 according to you?? Well where is our flag? Where is the dominance? Where is even a Grand Final? Or a decent finals performance even?
 

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Oh well we better not get one of the best coaches of the modern era then.:rolleyes:
Pardon?? Roos is over rated. A highly defensive coach who loves the sound of his voice. He won one premiership on the back of COLA, and did NOT achieve much at Melbourne considering the talent pool at his disposal. Collingwood can have him, and if you believe the Rumour File, he is signed, sealed and delivered for 2018
 

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Gutting our depth?

Vardy who played 25 games in 7 years and wanted a fresh start?

Kersten who wanted to return to WA?

Smedts who played 38 games in 6 years? Like Vardy needed a fresh start.

Caddy who was seduced by Richmond?

Just how long do you keep players who are surplus to requirements or want away? Three of these players weren't wanted anywhere near the team and for various reasons couldn't get anywhere near the team, yet they are now vital depth?
The point is they're all senior players. All played senior football this year. There's also Clark as well. Whatever the merits of those five players, the reality is they all had seasoned mature bodies, and if the need arises, some will have to be replaced by first year draftees. They can not and will not have the same level of physique or fitness.
 

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Yet, and I know this is a digression, and hugely unpopular, Geelong tried to add that ruthlessness with a couple of ex Hawks for coaches, and the one we all remember- Ayres- was regarded by most Geelong supporters with disdain, largely because he recognised the sentimentalities and our way of having done things, and acted according to his (Hawthorn= successful) upbringing.
I personally never had negative thoughts about him as our coach, and believe he was unfairly maligned by many. Now I know this will shoot me down, but so be it. And I know you- not necessarily you personally, but- will dredge up all the evidence about his coaching foibles, but again, I did not perceive that.
I would say with Ayres it was as much list management as about onfield coaching. Imagine how some of his top-ups would have been regarded on here, included the greatest of great white hopes in Cameron Roberts. Plus the legend that is Brett Spinks (although his record for his one season was actually pretty good).
 

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First of all, Patridge, I don't know why you are flying the flag for BlightyCats. Maybe you want a piece of the action in the sexual tryst between BlightyCats and Bomber, menage en tois.
I'm not. I was responding to you. The rest of your response says more about you than anything else.

End of 2010. That depends on when Laidler left. Did he leave BEFORE we appointed Chris Scott? If so, then it was on Mark Thompson's watch.

I'm not sure about this, but, if I remember, Chris Scott was appointed after the trade period that year. If so, Laidler would have already declared that he was leaving.
It seems Laidler was in between. Thompson resigned on October 4th 2010, trade week was from October 5th-12th October, and Scott was appointed on October 15th (according to the club website).

We would have won that premiership with Mumford as well. Blake did his job that day, and deserved his medal, but, long-term, Mumford would have been the better option. But then, Bomber focused on the here-and-now, and winning flags, rather than long-term. You know, like how you criticize Chris Scott for giving away picks to get a flag "now", yet you had no problem with Bomber doing the same thing.
Suspect Sydney's incredible offer to Mumford had more to do with it than anything. That was the universal opinion of every player and club official I spoke to at the 2009 Best and Fairest. Everyone wished him well too.

Sure, Gardiner and Playfair left, but not before spudding it up game after game. Gardiner accumulated something like 20-25 games, when he should have had his papers stamped after 2-3 games, when it was obvious that he didn't have a clue.
That wasn't what you said. You said they were kept around when Mumford left, which is patently incorrect.

You say how we won a flag since Ablett and Mumford left. But you don't acknowledge that flag, and say that he only got that because of the "old guard". So, if you brag that we won the 2011 flag without Ablett or Mumford, then you have to acknowledge Chris Scott's part in getting us that flag as well.
Research would be your friend. I've always given (and will continue to give) Scott 100% full credit for the 2011 premiership. They're too hard to win to be dismissed flippantly.

Anyone who doesn't back the coach in, on this board, should get lost and go and follow another team. We have made finals all but one year under Scott, and still remain in a premiership window. We aren't exactly bottom four, so stop whining in a self-entitled tone like a Richmond supporter.
Ah yes, the hysterical (and hilarious) injunction to tell supporters how to support. Good luck with that. I look forward to the next installment with your customary civility and charm.

I don't want Chris Scott sacked. I want him to be our 2+ premiership coach.
As does pretty much everyone. Some suspect given the dazzling display in the Preliminary final it may not occur. Hope you're right.
 

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He wasn't my favourite coach and I've never said that anywhere?? It was my favourite era to watch (not for achievement of the club) because of Ablett Snr and the style of footy we played which was incredibly skillful fast and attractive. You can keep making crap up about what I've said all you want but let's remember we're meant to be in the middle of an era more dominant than Hawthorn 2013-2015 according to you?? Well where is our flag? Where is the dominance? Where is even a Grand Final? Or a decent finals performance even?
You have nothing but nostalgic fondness and over the moon praise for a coach who took us to nothing but finals failure over several years with embarrassing results, yet you criticise a coach who has already driven us to a premiership because he hasn't won another soon enough. You can't claim blight was a star coach when you harp on about Scott and finals. Either finals success isn't an only indicator for you or it is. Your extreme fondness of such a failure of a Geelong coach suggests you don't use finals as an indication of a coach at all.

We where in decline after 2010, 2011 we just Sinply had a phenominal coach give us one last grasp with that group. We have been redeveloping from a champion era ever since the end of 2011 when we had or mass retirements start to commence. In no shape or form where we in the middle of any era those years you refer to
 
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Look, you hate Chris Scott. You probably hope he dies in some horrible way (since Geelong don't sack coaches) and I bet if you saw him crossing the road, you would speed up. But then, you're too stupid to understand what I am getting at anyway, and I am ashamed that you claim to follow the same club as me. You and BiggyBoy are proof that all clubs have idiot supporters. So, just go back to sucking Mark Thompson's dick, and keep your ill-informed comments to yourself.
This is ridiculous.

Anyone who doesn't back the coach in, on this board, should get lost and go and follow another team. We have made finals all but one year under Scott, and still remain in a premiership window. We aren't exactly bottom four, so stop whining in a self-entitled tone like a Richmond supporter.

I don't want Chris Scott sacked. I want him to be our 2+ premiership coach.
As is this

Fanbois should go to a fan site where everything is positive, this is a forum and a forum is for people to debate different issues.

Blighty brings up many valid points.
 

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Either finals success isn't an only indicator for you or it is. Your extreme fondness of such a failure of a Geelong coach suggests you don't use finals as an indication of a coach at all.
Finals success is an indicator for me and Blight is all over Scott in that department - 2 flags and 5 Grand finals in under 10 years of coaching. To put it in context Scott's entering his 7th year of coaching, once Blight became a pure coach (rather than playing coach which is ridiculous) in his first 7 years of coaching he had a flag and 4 Grand Final appearances under his belt. Blight's players played for him Scott's don't.
 

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Pardon?? Roos is over rated. A highly defensive coach who loves the sound of his voice. He won one premiership on the back of COLA, and did NOT achieve much at Melbourne considering the talent pool at his disposal. Collingwood can have him, and if you believe the Rumour File, he is signed, sealed and delivered for 2018
Roos is overrated? What's Scott then? Roos has a far better finals record than Scott.
 

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Finals success is an indicator for me and Blight is all over Scott in that department - 2 flags and 5 Grand finals in under 10 years of coaching. To put it in context Scott's entering his 7th year of coaching, once Blight became a pure coach (rather than playing coach which is ridiculous) in his first 7 years of coaching he had a flag and 4 Grand Final appearances under his belt. Blight's players played for him Scott's don't.
He did not win a single flag at Geelong. He failed miserably. I don't care or have interest in what he did at other clubs, in interested in what he was able to achieve at Geelong. He failed miserably in grand finals at Geelong. He achieved nothing but finals failure at Geelong, Scott has won Geelong a premiership. Scott 1>>>>>>>>>blight 0.

He is daylights ahead of blight at Geelong.

So who has done a better job as Geelong coach with more success? Scott or blight ??
 

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Roos is overrated? What's Scott then? Roos has a far better finals record than Scott.
Roos has an overall success rate of 50.7%, compared with Scott at 74%. Finals records is 56.2% v 45.5%, so yes, Ross is slightly ahead, not "far better" - call that the COLA advantage.
 

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He did not win a single flag at Geelong. He failed miserably. I don't care or have interest in what he did at other clubs, in interested in what he was able to achieve at Geelong. He failed miserably in grand finals at Geelong. He achieved nothing but finals failure at Geelong, Scott has won Geelong a premiership. Scott 1>>>>>>>>>blight 0.

He is daylights ahead of blight at Geelong.

So who has done a better job as Geelong coach with more success? Scott or blight ??
IMO, as much as I liked him, Blight was a quirky coach who really had a basic philosophy that was NEVER going to win a premiership at Geelong - score more goals than the opposition, i.e., forget about defence.
 

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IMO, as much as I liked him, Blight was a quirky coach who really had a basic philosophy that was NEVER going to win a premiership at Geelong - score more goals than the opposition, i.e., forget about defence.
Had no defensive mind set at all blight. Should have won at least one of those maybe 2.

Just merely using it as an example to show how flawed a logic and mind set blighty has on the topic.

You can't malign Chris Scotts finals and coaching record, while maintaining the notion that Malcolm Blight was a great coach of the Geelong football club?!!

A contradiction of the highest order.

Just an example of how muddled up and I'll directed with strong bias such a poster is.

Not credential worthy to give a valid opinion on the topic with such impartially balanced statements
 
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Roos has an overall success rate of 50.7%, compared with Scott at 74%. Finals records is 56.2% v 45.5%, so yes, Ross is slightly ahead, not "far better" - call that the COLA advantage.
Let's also add in that Sydney is highly propped up by the AFL with academies and the now fazing out cola. They have two number one draft picks running around in their side in Heeney and mills which is the biggest joke you will come across. So Paul Roos finals record is somewhat enhanced by all the extra assistance he had to work with. Scott was not given anything as such to build a team with and buy players with.
 

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Who cares? If the debate is about who's a better coach then the simple fact is Blight is better and far more respected, as is Roos.
The debate is who coached Geelong with more success in their time. Scott has won a flag at Geelong. Malcolm blight took us only to failed finals series.

Malcolm blight failed at his tenure with Geelong, Scott has achieved much more success with Geelong than blight ever did.

More respected Geelong coach is Chris scott
 

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No matter what you think of Scott the following are immutable facts:

Chris Scott is one of ONLY six people to coach Geelong to a premiership.

Malcolm Blight is one of 25 coaches to try and not succeed at Geelong.
So what? All that reflects is that we haven't been a very successful club over the last 119 years.

The simple fact is Blight will be remembered (and already is) as a legendary coach and figure of the game -
C. Scott will be remembered like Allan Joyce as a guy that stole a flag with a champion team nearing the end of their dynasty and subsequently oversaw the teams demise as a relevant force.
 

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Really? When was that established as the particular debate?
should check which club board you are on again to figure that out.

Even your posting name suggests your love for Malcolm blight as a Geelong coach.

You are sick and fed up of watching Geelong play a style of football you say is incapable of winning premierships and standing up in finals... Yet you say how much you loved watching Geelong under Malcolm blight, who took us to many finals series and failed each and every time. You didn't see his coaching at Geelong as a failure? But Chris Scott who has already won a premiership is lol.

Going by your own judgemental standards of what you expect from a Geelong coach, you must surely mark blight as an embarrassing failure during his tenure at the Geelong football club?! His game style he had us playing was clearly frustrating because it proved to be incapable of winning finals, but according to you this was amazing to watch

You can't have it both ways. If Scott is a failure based on his Geelong record in finals. then blight was a very big embarrassing failure.
 
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