Opinion Chris Scott's coaching - Part II [NEW POLL ADDED]

For how long will Chris Scott be Geelong coach?

  • For as long as he wants the job

  • 5+ more years

  • Somewhere between 2020 and 2022 (i.e. beyond his current contract)

  • He will be sacked/resign in 2019

  • He will be sacked/resign in 2018

  • The Nuclear Option: sacked/resign in 2017


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Farmer2Goggin

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So what? All that reflects is that we haven't been a very successful club over the last 119 years.

The simple fact is Blight will be remembered (and already is) as a legendary coach and figure of the game -
C. Scott will be remembered like Allan Joyce as a guy that stole a flag with a champion team nearing the end of their dynasty and subsequently oversaw the teams demise as a relevant force.
Loved Blight but his record at the Cats of zero wins from 3 GF appearances is hardly stellar.

You may be right about Scott but he's still coaching so his legacy is still to be determined.
Your signature says a lot about your opinion of Scott , you would have far more credibility if you stated his total finals record which is 5 wins , 6 losses and one Flag.
We have much to work on for 2017 , let's hope we improve a similar amount to what we did in 2016 - you never know what might happen if we do that :thumbsu:
 

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The simple fact is Blight will be remembered (and already is) as a legendary coach and figure of the game -
Tom Hafey is remembered as a great coach.....at Richmond. He was a failure at Geelong.

And to compare Scott to Joyce, who was a caretaker coach, really demonstrates your lack of objectivity in this debate.
 

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Tom Hafey is remembered as a great coach.....at Richmond. He was a failure at Geelong.

And to compare Scott to Joyce, who was a caretaker coach, really demonstrates your lack of objectivity in this debate.
To be fair Joyce was only a caretaker in 1988. He was the appointed senior coach when they won again in 1991.
 

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really demonstrates your lack of objectivity in this debate.
I'm surprised you thought I had any objectivity in this debate to begin with. I don't like Scott as coach of the GFC and I believe he's destroying our team and club, I also think he'll leave us a wreck and be remembered as the guy who squandered our one chance to become a real dynasty in the AFL. I'm also unfortunately completely confident of being right about this.
 

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We have much to work on for 2017 , let's hope we improve a similar amount to what we did in 2016 - you never know what might happen if we do that :thumbsu:
I honestly admire your optimism but it saddens me and frustrates me so much because it's not going to happen, I'm telling you we need to get rid of the guy then we can start rebuilding our list properly and again begin the journey toward a real genuine flag tilt instead of the fraudulent destructive path Scott has set us on.
 

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Pardon?? Roos is over rated. A highly defensive coach who loves the sound of his voice. He won one premiership on the back of COLA, and did NOT achieve much at Melbourne considering the talent pool at his disposal. Collingwood can have him, and if you believe the Rumour File, he is signed, sealed and delivered for 2018
He's another mirror-loving opportunist. Agree completely with you.
 

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Oh stop... it hurts so much.:D:D
Why would I care mate I know Blight will always be far more respected than Scott.
You can't possibly 'know' that. Scott's career is not over yet, so his achievements or lack of are not yet settled. So 'always' is conjecture not fact.
And you can't presume to speak for anyone other than yourself.
Or, show me the many quotes from people saying they respect Blight more than Scott. And I mean real quotes, not your interpretative dancing quotes.
ps Scott is already a more successful Geelong coach than Blight, that is something you can say you know.
 

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He wasn't my favourite coach and I've never said that anywhere?? It was my favourite era to watch (not for achievement of the club) because of Ablett Snr and the style of footy we played which was incredibly skillful fast and attractive. You can keep making crap up about what I've said all you want but let's remember we're meant to be in the middle of an era more dominant than Hawthorn 2013-2015 according to you?? Well where is our flag? Where is the dominance? Where is even a Grand Final? Or a decent finals performance even?

The fact that you call yourself "BlightyCats" is a hint.
 

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I'm not. I was responding to you. The rest of your response says more about you than anything else.



It seems Laidler was in between. Thompson resigned on October 4th 2010, trade week was from October 5th-12th October, and Scott was appointed on October 15th (according to the club website).



Suspect Sydney's incredible offer to Mumford had more to do with it than anything. That was the universal opinion of every player and club official I spoke to at the 2009 Best and Fairest. Everyone wished him well too.



That wasn't what you said. You said they were kept around when Mumford left, which is patently incorrect.



Research would be your friend. I've always given (and will continue to give) Scott 100% full credit for the 2011 premiership. They're too hard to win to be dismissed flippantly.



Ah yes, the hysterical (and hilarious) injunction to tell supporters how to support. Good luck with that. I look forward to the next installment with your customary civility and charm.



As does pretty much everyone. Some suspect given the dazzling display in the Preliminary final it may not occur. Hope you're right.

First of all, I have never said to give Chris Scott 100% full credit for the 2011 flag. He is part of the reason for the win. Bartel helped by kicking three goals, Hawkins dominated Reid, Lonergan shut down Cloke, Varcoe had a day out.

I give Chris Scott credit too, because he outcoached a veteran coach in a Grand Final. Malthouse had no answers for the moves Scott made after half-time.

When Cloke started getting on top in the second quarter, Scott moved Lonergan onto him, which worked. Malthouse left Ben Reid on Tom Hawkins all day. Who made the right move?

I believe that a coach and the players all play a part in the success and premierships, and at times, the failures as well. It isn't always just the coach.

Also, if you give Scott 100% credit for the flag, then doesn't this earn him credits to be given more time? If he had coached us since 2011, without any flag, then questions should be asked, but winning a flag buys you three or four extra years, for mine. If we get to another three or four years without a flag, then questions should be asked, but give him more time to build this side. This isn't Damian Hardwick, or even Chris's brother Brad, we are talking about, both of who were appointed a year earlier, and still haven't won a flag, yet they get new contracts and not sacked. They deserve to be sacked sooner than a premiership coach in Chris Scott.

Hell, Mark Thompson took eight years before he got his first coaching flag. Chris hasn't been there as long, and has already won a flag. The club gave Bomber another chance (and I thought Bomber deserved the sack in 2006, when we missed finals, and hadn't won a flag in eight years under him, a league record at the time).In fact, I said that if Bomber didn't take Geelong to top 4 in 2007, we should not re-contract him, and get Dennis Pagan instead, who actually coached flags, and gave kicks up bums to players who had bad attitudes (which Geelong players had in abundance in 2006). Yet, I am more than glad to have been proven wrong. You should hope to be wrong about Chris Scott as well.
 
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Roos is overrated? What's Scott then? Roos has a far better finals record than Scott.

Paul Roos -one premiership.

Chris Scott- one premiership.

So, Paul Roos coached more finals, over eight years (Scott has only been at Geelong for six so far), and yet from that there was only one premiership.

If anything, that means that Roos underachieved, and there was little reward for winning more finals games.

You bag Scott, who won us a flag, yet use Paul Roos as a comparison of a better coach, who also coached one flag.
 

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You can't possibly 'know' that. Scott's career is not over yet, so his achievements or lack of are not yet settled. So 'always' is conjecture not fact.
And you can't presume to speak for anyone other than yourself.
Or, show me the many quotes from people saying they respect Blight more than Scott. And I mean real quotes, not your interpretative dancing quotes.
ps Scott is already a more successful Geelong coach than Blight, that is something you can say you know.

Malcolm Blight's respect comes mainly because of his playing career. A Brownlow, kicking 100 in a season, one of North's greatest players, a Sandover medal. Blight's career is more decorated because he was a superstar, whereas Chris Scott was a good player at Brisbane, but not a superstar to the extent that Blight was for North.

So, yes, Blight might be more respected in football all round, as a superstar player, premiership hero at North, an icon in South Australia for coaching Adelaide to their only two flags, and as a commentator and media personality.

But, when it comes to Geelong Football Club history, the fact is that Chris Scott has already had more success than Malcolm Blight, and so, amongst Geelong F.C. circles going forward, Blight might be more liked (because of his quirkiness and the exciting football he got Geelong playing), but Chris Scott will always be more successful.
 

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I'm surprised you thought I had any objectivity in this debate to begin with. I don't like Scott as coach of the GFC and I believe he's destroying our team and club, I also think he'll leave us a wreck and be remembered as the guy who squandered our one chance to become a real dynasty in the AFL. I'm also unfortunately completely confident of being right about this.

"Our one chance of being a dynasty in the AFL".

We had a dynasty when we won the 2007, 2009 and 2011 flags, and made finals all but one year between 2007 and 2016.

I hear that our back-to-back flags in the 1950's (1951-52), where we won 23 in a row (a league record) and went 26 weeks undefeated, was a bit of a dynasty as well.

Interested to know what you consider a dynasty.
 

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You can't possibly 'know' that. Scott's career is not over yet, so his achievements or lack of are not yet settled. So 'always' is conjecture not fact.
And you can't presume to speak for anyone other than yourself.
Mate I know it for sure, and I don't presume to speak for anyone else.
 

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You can't possibly 'know' that. Scott's career is not over yet, so his achievements or lack of are not yet settled. So 'always' is conjecture not fact.
And you can't presume to speak for anyone other than yourself.
Or, show me the many quotes from people saying they respect Blight more than Scott. And I mean real quotes, not your interpretative dancing quotes.
ps Scott is already a more successful Geelong coach than Blight, that is something you can say you know.
I can't find any quotes saying people respect Blight more than Scott because it's such a ludicrously specific subject and because there'd be very few people at Geelong that have had close up experience of both - perhaps only Steven Hocking. Regardless here's a piece from a former Geelong player about Blight and I can guarantee no current players will be writing such glorious things about Scott anytime in the future.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...t/news-story/774e85a5cab75f798ce001092c3c79f0
 

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Do you seriously believe that?

By any objective measure, Blight's finals record is superior to Scott's.

Scott is a one-hit wonder with a team he inherited full of champion, already-premiership players in a quality club environment. Since then he's been unable to make a GF from three additional top 4 finishes.
 
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Do you seriously believe that?

By any objective measure, Blight's finals record is superior to Scott's.

Scott is a one-hit wonder with a team he inherited full of champion, already-premiership players in a quality club environment. Since then he's been unable to make a GF from three additional top 4 finishes.
Disregarded your post right here:

"Scott is a one-hit wonder with a team he inherited full of champion, already-premiership players in a quality club environment. "

Sorry, they're too hard to win to dismiss so flippantly.
Blight 0 Scott 1
Attempts: Blight 3 Scott 1.
 
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