Opinion Chris Scott's coaching - Part II [NEW POLL ADDED]

For how long will Chris Scott be Geelong coach?

  • For as long as he wants the job

  • 5+ more years

  • Somewhere between 2020 and 2022 (i.e. beyond his current contract)

  • He will be sacked/resign in 2019

  • He will be sacked/resign in 2018

  • The Nuclear Option: sacked/resign in 2017


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Landgraft

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is he wrong though? definitely need to improve on those two showings to be genuine competitors, IMO.
I think the good of the Melbourne game is being too easily overlooked. We played well in a number of ways, less so in some others. We still won by 5 goals in the end.
 

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I think the good of the Melbourne game is being too easily overlooked. We played well in a number of ways, less so in some others. We still won by 5 goals in the end.
That's the upside. We are 3:0 and can/must improve. Infinitely better position than 1:2, or 0:3
agree with all of that, too.
 

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We were great in the first and last. They score a lot of points from repeat entry, those don't happen if they kick straight. We played well and deserved the win. Centre clearances weren't that different in the first half.
I think the good of the Melbourne game is being too easily overlooked. We played well in a number of ways, less so in some others. We still won by 5 goals in the end.
 

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I think the good of the Melbourne game is being too easily overlooked. We played well in a number of ways, less so in some others. We still won by 5 goals in the end.
Yep, and like the north game had to come from a bit behind and against the flow, and find ways back-useful and gives the players confidence. ( and hopefully not complacency)
 

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What makes you say these are better than CS?
Zero evidence.
Agree with you re McCartney.
It seems that supporters outside Geelong rate our coach more highly than our own supporters.
Win or lose this Monday, CS is doing an awesome job, is honest, is aware of his limitations, our team's limitations, and has methods to keep us in contention.
Hawks are currently 0-3, and people are talking about Clarko losing the plot which is just as ridiculous as the ongoing criticism about CS.
There is just too much analysis and scrutiny about this game- more than ever before, but despite that, forming an opinion that there are better coaches around like Simpson, Bolton, Beveridge and Clarko is interesting but baseless, imho.
It's my fault I've been misinterpreted. Comparable would be a better word. I think Clarkson and Beveridge there's certainly evidence to suggest they're comparable to Scott. Bolton and Simpson IMO have both achieved list turn arounds and while I know SOS as list manager has had a hand in that at Carlton I think that the Blues play beyond the sum of their parts, and that suggests the coach's influence.

The point I was trying to make is that we have nothing to gain by replacing Scott regardless of the available candidates. And unless one of those comparable coaches was to take the job then we have a great deal to lose.
 

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I think the good of the Melbourne game is being too easily overlooked. We played well in a number of ways, less so in some others. We still won by 5 goals in the end.
Let's remember too, Melbourne where in front at 3 quarter time and has every chance to roll over the top of us, but they didn't and couldn't, we ran over them.

Also like Chris Scott said, a lot of their points scored were from kick outs that resulted in the ball turned over and consecutive points scored from forward lock in pressure, if it went back to the middle who knows how different it could have looked.

I judge a team more based on how they perform in last quarters when the scores are close, this is a true indication.

Also Melbourne are a quality side this year and will be right up there, by no means an easy win against Melbourne
 

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Let's remember too, Melbourne where in front at 3 quarter time and has every chance to roll over the top of us, but they didn't and couldn't, we ran over them.

Also like Chris Scott said, a lot of their points scored were from kick outs that resulted in the ball turned over and consecutive points scored from forward lock in pressure, if it went back to the middle who knows how different it could have looked.

I judge a team more based on how they perform in last quarters when the scores are close, this is a true indication.

Also Melbourne are a quality side this year and will be right up there, by no means an easy win against Melbourne
cant seriously expect a team with jack watts in the ruck to run over the top of us

all those missed shots take a toll also, you only get so many chances

they were cooked at 3 quarter time

Melbourne are a quality side with Hogan, Lewis and Gawn in the team. If those guys were playing and they werent so terrible in front of goals we lose the game by 10 goals.
 

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Melbourne are a quality side with Hogan, Lewis and Gawn in the team. If those guys were playing and they werent so terrible in front of goals we lose the game by 10 goals.
well they werent playing, and they were terrible in front of goals, and we won by 5 goals, so... oh well?
 

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cant seriously expect a team with jack watts in the ruck to run over the top of us

all those missed shots take a toll also, you only get so many chances

they were cooked at 3 quarter time

Melbourne are a quality side with Hogan, Lewis and Gawn in the team. If those guys were playing and they werent so terrible in front of goals we lose the game by 10 goals.
Jack watts did extremely good in the middle, he was running around doing everything, Gawn had hardly done a thing and had no influence on the match. This actually turned out a big move for Melbourne. Every side has players out, not interested in excuses. If you listened to the commentary at 3qtr time, they claimed watts form was going to win them the match single handedly

If they should have won by 10 goals, then they would have won.

There is no such thing as a team that played 10 goals better than the opposition and loses a game by 5 goals. Load of crap.

They won 2 quarters, we won 2 quarters.

We ran over them when it counted in the last.

Deal with it
 

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I am not at all worried in how we are going. In fact, our last quarters, and the form of Hawkins, Menzel, Duncan, Dangerwood, Blicavs, Henderson, has been superb. AND, we have hardly been blown out in first quarters yet this year, a great improvement.
I think we will get done by Hawthorn for reasons not related to our coaching or our personnel, but more to do with those intangibles, that extreme line in the sand effort that teams put in when needed to, and whatever goes with that will just be too much for us this week.
Easy to say they are due a win, and we are due a loss, but that is the reality too- IF IT HAPPENS.
Doesn't matter where teams are on the ladder or last week's form- almost irrelevant. It's rd 4 and Hawthorn simply MUST win. If they don't, this is a massive bonus for us.
 

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I am not at all worried in how we are going. In fact, our last quarters, and the form of Hawkins, Menzel, Duncan, Dangerwood, Blicavs, Henderson, has been superb. AND, we have hardly been blown out in first quarters yet this year, a great improvement.
I think we will get done by Hawthorn for reasons not related to our coaching or our personnel, but more to do with those intangibles, that extreme line in the sand effort that teams put in when needed to, and whatever goes with that will just be too much for us this week.
Easy to say they are due a win, and we are due a loss, but that is the reality too- IF IT HAPPENS.
Doesn't matter where teams are on the ladder or last week's form- almost irrelevant. It's rd 4 and Hawthorn simply MUST win. If they don't, this is a massive bonus for us.
No chance. I'm sure that the Hawks will be up for a fight but are no longer in our league IF we have our heads in the right place. We really should win this by at least 7-8 goals.
 
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cant seriously expect a team with jack watts in the ruck to run over the top of us

all those missed shots take a toll also, you only get so many chances

they were cooked at 3 quarter time

Melbourne are a quality side with Hogan, Lewis and Gawn in the team. If those guys were playing and they werent so terrible in front of goals we lose the game by 10 goals.
So is it your intention to use the "if" and "weren't" technique to justify your criticism of every win we have this season?
 

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cant seriously expect a team with jack watts in the ruck to run over the top of us

all those missed shots take a toll also, you only get so many chances

they were cooked at 3 quarter time

Melbourne are a quality side with Hogan, Lewis and Gawn in the team. If those guys were playing and they werent so terrible in front of goals we lose the game by 10 goals.
Nah. This aint true. This is just hypothetical.
 

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Anyway we've played poor footy for the majority of our last two games and such play will catch up with us at some point despite some luck getting us over the line so far.
How on earth will the bulldogs, Melbourne, the Saints and GWS end up jointly winning the premiership this year if they are all playing so poorly in round 3?
 

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What makes you say these are better than CS?
Zero evidence.
Agree with you re McCartney.
It seems that supporters outside Geelong rate our coach more highly than our own supporters.
Win or lose this Monday, CS is doing an awesome job, is honest, is aware of his limitations, our team's limitations, and has methods to keep us in contention.
Hawks are currently 0-3, and people are talking about Clarko losing the plot which is just as ridiculous as the ongoing criticism about CS.
There is just too much analysis and scrutiny about this game- more than ever before, but despite that, forming an opinion that there are better coaches around like Simpson, Bolton, Beveridge and Clarko is interesting but baseless, imho.
Scott's not doing an 'awesome' job?!? 2 of the 3 teams we've played so far are presently bottom 4, what I will say is at least Scott's changed things up this season with the way we play and actually implemented a lot of what I've been saying he should do over the last few years, so while I still wish we'd get rid of Scott at least he's finally setting up our team to counter attack more with speed and playing a small forward line more, the problem is we haven't recruited much speed until recently so all our quick players (apart from Danger, Murdoch) are pretty young and we still lack quality small forwards so as usual we'll fail when it counts.

Our recruiting reflects Scott and the game-style or rather lack of game plan that we have, while other teams have a clear idea of how they'd like to play and have had for at least a few years we chop and change and don't construct our list to reflect the way we want to play and as a result are doomed to mediocrity.
 

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So is it your intention to use the "if" and "weren't" technique to justify your criticism of every win we have this season?
Scott has criticised our performances so far and on 3AW on Sunday when asked if he thought we were better than last year said no because we've been so patchy in games and for long periods within games played very poor footy, so maybe you should ask Scott that question...
 

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Considering how adamant he was that we wouldn't make the 8 these wins must have him nervous.
Wasn't ever too adamant about it but yes did say we wouldn't make the 8, doesn't look like happening so far but regardless we'll still perform poorly in finals if we make it anyway then we'll all be able to jump on the predictable merry go round of Scott's coaching again for another 3 years - decent season performances followed by pathetic finals performances, and repeat.
 
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