Confirmed Chris Yarran [to Richmond for Pick 19]

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Hahahahahaha.

You Sir should be a Richmond fan. Fall for the spin of the club.

Geez.
I am very happy with the current incumbants. Kernahan was a good steadying influence at the club but Swann I disliked him with a passion.

Really like Trigg,, hasn't put a foot wrong. It wasnt Trigg I spoke with but they are really confident the club will bounce

Quote was said to me

"When we were looking for a new coach Ange told us hiring the wrong coach will set you back 12 months and hoping that 12 month set back was in 2015"

Drawn comparisons when Melbourne Victory couldn't get the right coach for five years and its important to bring in a coach with the right training and calibre (in Melbourne Victory's case Kevin Muscat) who turned the club around in 24 months with a pitiful starting 11 but Ange gave the team an identity. But took three years to develop an identity then a proper team then win a championship.

Heres hoping the Bluebaggers got this one right.
 

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I am not a bad bloke, really.

You could call me Hitler for all I care!!

Like I said you are on my ignore list and clearly you are a biased campaigner in my eyes!
All I know is after all our discussions you accuse me of the exact opposite view that I've been saying all along. Like I said, time to take a break. You've been arguing with so many different people today that you don't have a clue what's happening anymore.
 

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A late first rounder seems fair.

Rather lose Yarran for nothing then take your 2nd round pick.

Rather keep him anyway, Yarran will probably help take you deep into the finals providing your captain doesn't go missing again, something I don't want to see happen.
 

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A late first rounder seems fair.

Rather lose Yarran for nothing then take your 2nd round pick.

Rather keep him anyway, Yarran will probably help take you deep into the finals providing your captain doesn't go missing again, something I don't want to see happen.
The issue is RFC don't have a pick in the low 20's which would most likely get it done. We know he's worth more then pick #31, but don't value him at pick #12 which it why it won't be offered. I'll even concede that he's closer to a pick #12 then he is to #31. But reality is while we'd like to secure Yarran, we're not desperate enough to pay overs for him. This is the current situation.
 

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The issue is RFC don't have a pick in the low 20's which would most likely get it done. We know he's worth more then pick #31, but don't value him at pick #12 which it why it won't be offered. I'll even concede that he's closer to a pick #12 then he is to #31. But reality is while we'd like to secure Yarran, we're not desperate enough to pay overs for him. This is the current situation.
That's fair enough I guess.. I value him between 10-20. You need to start winning finals.. but players like Yaz are the cream on the cake they don't come cheap at 24 years old.
 

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All I know is after all our discussions you accuse me of the exact opposite view that I've been saying all along. Like I said, time to take a break. You've been arguing with so many different people today that you don't have a clue what's happening anymore.

I just reported you for bullying.

I will take a break when I feel it is necessary.

Any issues call the police and ring your lawyers might be a suggestion.

Any further replies will be treated as harassment!
 

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I just reported you for bullying.

I will take a break when I feel it is necessary.

Any issues call the police and ring your lawyers might be a suggestion.
Now I've heard it all, telling you to take a break and recharge your batteries for your own good is bullying and I should call my lawyer over it.
 

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That's fair enough I guess.. I value him between 10-20. You need to start winning finals.. but players like Yaz are the cream on the cake they don't come cheap at 24 years old.
If we had pick 20 do you think that would get it done? That's about where I value him, high teens early 20's.
 

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Confident with Kreuzer the worst is behind him - primed to have a big year as reaching that age bracket for big guys.
Hendo will go to Geelong - asked if deal is done and I got no.

Depth in every position will be the mantra of list management instead of versatile players.

Asked about the forward line - 2017 is the year to look into it but Andrew Walker, Everitt, Casboult, Kreuzer, Rowe will suffice for 2016.

I said that forward line is not going to kick enough goals - they said outside leg speed and delivery was more important and happy with Boekhorst need to add more outside run.

Asked about Aish " will find out next week"

Asked about Yarran - "he is contracted"

Asked about Jaegar Omeara coming out of contract next season - "too early to tell" (I like the way it was said too)

Asked about Carlisle "very interested"

Asked about AGM as I won't be in Melbourne -said every year is the same rubbish too many promises and not enough delivery..too much sugar coating ....this is changing.

Asked about TPP and salary cap " its looking good and will look really good in 24 months time all our big guns are locked in for at least another two years"

Asked about Menzel " he is contracted"

I said here's my credit card and will upgrade my membership ;)
Carlton have big guns?
 

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A late first rounder seems fair.

Rather lose Yarran for nothing then take your 2nd round pick.

Rather keep him anyway, Yarran will probably help take you deep into the finals providing your captain doesn't go missing again, something I don't want to see happen.
Can you explain your reasoning?

It seems irrational.
 

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I rate Lennon highly, seems like he has a good future. But I'm a bit surprised that he has either held his value or even gone up in value in your opinion. Surprising that a footballer that hasn't played a great deal and got dropped when the wip's were cracking has held or even increased his value. Very rare that that would be the case when comparing to similar players of similar age being traded over the last couple of years.
Can you explain why that would be?
 

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Carlton have big guns?
Kreuzer, Thomas, Gibbs, Murphy, Cripps, Docherty, Buckley locked away

Jamison, Simpson, Walker, Boekhorst, Graham, Everitt, Casboult, Tuohy, Jaksch, Curnow, Bell also locked away.

Unfortunately we don't have a bonafide CHB (Weitering) Full Forward, outside run, and small forward..but nucleus of squad should hold us up with the right coach and playing style that suits the players. :thumbsu:
 

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If we had pick 20 do you think that would get it done? That's about where I value him, high teens early 20's.
I'd say pick 18 would be the minimum I would personally accept for him.

I think hes value is around the pick 15-18 mark

Carlton would probably accept pick 20 if no one else offered better, and its certainly more realistic then pick 28 or whatever your 2nd rounder is.
 

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I rate Lennon highly, seems like he has a good future. But I'm a bit surprised that he has either held his value or even gone up in value in your opinion. Surprising that a footballer that hasn't played a great deal and got dropped when the wip's were cracking has held or even increased his value. Very rare that that would be the case when comparing to similar players of similar age being traded over the last couple of years.
Can you explain why that would be?
He was pick 12 in the draft, he started 2014 slowly and played sub a few times due to needing to improve he's tank as he missed pre season, while in 2015 he played the last half of the year and showed why he was rated getting a rising star nomination and playing well has done nothing to decrease his value since drafted
 

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Kreuzer, Thomas, Gibbs, Murphy, Cripps, Docherty, Buckley locked away

Jamison, Simpson, Walker, Boekhorst, Graham, Everitt, Casboult, Tuohy, Jaksch, Curnow, Bell also locked away.

Unfortunately we don't have a bonafide CHB (Weitering) Full Forward, outside run, and small forward..but nucleus of squad should hold us up with the right coach and playing style that suits the players. :thumbsu:
You're an optimistic fellow aren't you?
 
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