This thread is going in circles. Carlton fans seem to be angling for our first pick or Lennon - which he's clearly not worth. My question to the bluesers is, what extra would you throw in to make a trade for our first rounder equitable?
Sam Docherty left Brisbane for the same reason everyone else left Brisbane, ...it's Brisbane.
I'd consider Lennon + 2nd rounder for Yarran + 3rd rounder, but Lennon and our first rounder is effectively 2 first rounders, and since Bolton said Yarran on his 'best day' (which isn't often) is worth a first rounder, you'd be batshit crazy to suggest TWO first rounders. Lennon's going to be a very good player, maybe even a star.
As much as people say form this year has caused his value to decrease, we know what he can do when he's up and going. The fact that he clearly did not want to play in the navy blue did have an affect on form, so you can't base the trade value on form alone.
Yarran would be more than handy at the Hawks. They would give up there first rounder for him and I'm sure Yazz wouldn't mind playing there.
Just remember Yazz is under contact and we are under no obligation to get him to the Tigers.
If the tigers don't come up with a suitable trade we can shop Yarran around to whoever we like.
You guys can't just look at our list and pick who you want. It's not going to work that way, the same as if we can't just take Yarran for squat. Gotta be fair.
The guys up for discussion are - Astbury, Griffiths, Conca, Lennon, 2nd round pick, Bachelor, Menadue, anyone else makes it unfair on us, because they're either contracted, happy or very important.
I understand what you are saying however you don't barrack for toys r us or share the same passion like you would for a football team. I do think it can all change when a player is selected for another team as the dream of playing AFL would over shadow this but there will always be a soft spot for that team that made you passionate about footy in the first place.
Not, not fair, this is why Carlton supporters get pissed off. For Pick 2, you gotta take out either McBean or Lennon, throw in Ellis, Martin, Cotchin, Deledio, Rance, Riewoldt, etc.
I'm not sure his sole reason for leaving Brisbane was the fact that he barracked for Carlton as a boy.
Some things occurring at Brisbane and his desire to return to Victoria may have played a small part.
I see your point and I think it's so crazy it just might work but as soon as Carlton see they have pick #2 they will forget the rest of the deal and take their two key position players
I understand what you are saying however you don't barrack for toys r us or share the same passion like you would for a football team. I do think it can all change when a player is selected for another team as the dream of playing AFL would over shadow this but there will always be a soft spot for that team that made you passionate about footy in the first place.
I'd say money, relationships, family, location were much more important that childhood nostalgia. But it could always play a little part, I won't pretend it wouldn't. Dom Tyson was a big Richmond supporter, went to Melbourne.
I see your point and I think it's so crazy it just might work but as soon as Carlton see they have pick #2 they will forget the rest of the deal and take their two key position players
There are people wanting a second round pick and lennon, which is ridiculous and wont happen, you Carlton fans are just as bad expecting overs for yarran
I love how some Carlton fans are jumping on the Carlisle thread bagging Essendon fans for wanting something decent in exchange for Carlisle. Yet on here they're doing the same with Yarran.
Same things being pointed out as to why Carlisle is not worth peanuts (eg this years form) is the same thing being defended in here about Yarran.
Yarran would be more than handy at the Hawks. They would give up there first rounder for him and I'm sure Yazz wouldn't mind playing there.
Just remember Yazz is under contact and we are under no obligation to get him to the Tigers.
If the tigers don't come up with a suitable trade we can shop Yarran around to whoever we like.
Very much doubt Hawks would give 1st rounder, don't know where you would get an idea like that. Cray Cray. There is no one else jumping out of the ground to pick him up. Still can't figure out why we are. Downhill skier, sook. We have enough of those thanks
I love how some Carlton fans are jumping on the Carlisle thread bagging Essendon fans for wanting something decent in exchange for Carlisle. Yet on here they're doing the same with Yarran.
Same things being pointed out as to why Carlisle is not worth peanuts (eg this years form) is the same thing being defended in here about Yarran.
I think it's stock standard for every club mate.
We all overrate our players and think they are worth more than what they actually are.
Yarran is not worth a first rounder and there is no chance of the deal happening for our first pick.
We may need to get another club involved to get Carlton a pick in the mid 20's, but he will ultimately get to Richmond.
Sam Docherty left Brisbane for the same reason everyone else left Brisbane, ...it's Brisbane.
I'd consider Lennon + 2nd rounder for Yarran + 3rd rounder, but Lennon and our first rounder is effectively 2 first rounders, and since Bolton said Yarran on his 'best day' (which isn't often) is worth a first rounder, you'd be batshit crazy to suggest TWO first rounders. Lennon's going to be a very good player, maybe even a star.
Docherty had a number of clubs chasing him and he chose Carlton, and part of this reason was because he barracked for them as a kid and always dreamed of running out in the Navy Blue.
I'd be happy just to swap Lennon for Yarran. Both first round picks, Yarran has more runs on the board but also has issues that need to be sorted out.